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Re: Epstein’s Plane Was Even Sicker Than We Thought
Reply #105 - Nov 22nd, 2025 at 1:54pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Nov 22nd, 2025 at 1:52pm:
Why say good bye when you can't find a post where i supported anyone having sex with children.

You are nearly as delusional as karmal


Typical leftie, her only response is "orange man bad".
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Reply #106 - Nov 22nd, 2025 at 2:03pm
 
scope wrote on Nov 21st, 2025 at 7:10pm:
LoBaronvonrort wrote on Nov 21st, 2025 at 4:35pm:
[quote author=scope link=1763614589/29#29 date=1763651518]Baron wrote "Trump has never been to Epstein island"

How do you know he hasnt?



Trumps last flight on Epsteins planes was April 1997.
All of Trumps flights on Epsteins planes were from Palm Beach Florida to Teterboro airport New Jersey flight time around 2 hours 10 minutes.

Epstein bought Little St James in April 1998 for $7.95 million.

Trumps last flight on Epsteins planes was 1 year before Epstein bought his Island

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No evidence President-elect Donald Trump visited Jeffrey Epstein’s private island


November 8, 2024

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/nov/08/instagram-posts/no-evidence-pr...




Perhaps you should stop listening to the fake news who fuel your TDSi






Perhaps you should try engaging  your brain occasionally ,
You trump supporters fixate on 1 piece of evidence,thinking that it shows trump to be innocent.
Sadly whilst fixating on just 1 item you miss or deliberately ignore the obvious.
Epstein flights logs may show that trump never flew the lolita express to the island,however all this shows is that trump didnt fly on that aircraft.
For years all we heard was trumps name is not on any of epstiens flight logs, trump himself lied about flying on epstiens plane.
Then lo and behold the truth comes out, trumps name appears on some epstien flight logs, so trump did what he always does and lied.
Getting back to my point, you claim trump never went to the island, you have no proof he didnt, just the claim that he never went there on the lolita express, you do realise that trump owned his own aircraft dont you?
So do you have trumps flight logs for his own aircraft? Im guessing you dont.
So your claim he never went to the island is without foundation,he could have used other aircraft other than the lolita express.   
See like most trump supporters ,thinking is not your strongpoint.



You should try using your brain i suspect your TDS has turned it into mush.

Trump never denied flying on Epsteins plane between New Jersey airport and Florida.
Flight logs show wife Marla Daughter Tiffany and a nanny were also on these flights.
It's just over 2hr flight.

Epsteins Island doesn't have a runway therefore it's bullshit Trump flew his plane there.

Cyril E. King Airport on nearby St. Thomas (about 2 miles away) is where Epstein flew his plane into then took a boat or helicopter to his Island.

Airports charge landing fees the bigger the plane the larger the fee.
If you want to store the plane there you will have storage fees.
There will also be invoices for refuelling.
You don't need flight logs for this the airport will have records which can be verified.

None of Trumps planes have ever gone to Cyril E. King Airport if they did there would be a record of it.

The Politifact link shows there is no evidence Trump visited Epstein Island. Newsweek and the ABC  have also published no evidence Trump visited Epstein Island.

Those with TDS will ignore these media reports saying no evidence Trump visited Epstein Island because TDS has stuffed their critical thinking.




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Re: Epstein’s Plane Was Even Sicker Than We Thought
Reply #107 - Nov 22nd, 2025 at 2:08pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 22nd, 2025 at 10:19am:
As you appear to have missed this the first time.

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21st, 2025 at 6:47pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 21st, 2025 at 4:27pm:
Frank wrote on Nov 21st, 2025 at 4:21pm:
09Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21st, 2025 at 4:18pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 21st, 2025 at 2:53pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21st, 2025 at 2:49pm:
Just repeating in case you missed my question the first time.  Care to answer?

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 20th, 2025 at 11:06pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 20th, 2025 at 10:12pm:
We know Maxwell's brother was a colonel in mossad.


Was this the brother who died in Auschwitz during WWII?  Interesting trick being able to work for an organisation when you're dead.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes




Ghillanes brother not Roberts brother .try to keep up


Ghilliane's brother Ian is described as a, "businessman" who has never worked for Mossad as far as Wikipedia describes him.  He has, since leaving school worked for succession of various publishing houses.  So, where is your evidence that he was a, "Mossad colonel" come from?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Your "I'm more educated than most here" at work before our eyes, Bbwiyawn!  Cheesy Grin Grin

You are positively Thicko Smitho and Sad Teapot level intellectual, comlete with 'knowing' tut tuts and eyerolling!! You are youd own parody, vain old trolling duffer.


Does bwian know ghillane was the 9 th child in the macwell family.


Who cares?  We aren't discussing Ghiliane.  Why are you avoiding answering a simple question, Aqua?  Run away like a useless troll.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


So, please answer the question, Aqua.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


That's unfair, Brian. Aquascoot has addressed your question.

He's raised the pertinent point that while the RINOs and lefties demand justice for the victims of the most notorious child sex trafficking ring in US history, they haven't said a word about Pakistani drug dealers in Bradford, UK, back in 2002

Why the hypocrisy?

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Re: Epstein’s Plane Was Even Sicker Than We Thought
Reply #108 - Nov 22nd, 2025 at 2:12pm
 
Karnal wrote on Nov 22nd, 2025 at 2:08pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 22nd, 2025 at 10:19am:
As you appear to have missed this the first time.

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21st, 2025 at 6:47pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 21st, 2025 at 4:27pm:
Frank wrote on Nov 21st, 2025 at 4:21pm:
09Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21st, 2025 at 4:18pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 21st, 2025 at 2:53pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21st, 2025 at 2:49pm:
Just repeating in case you missed my question the first time.  Care to answer?

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 20th, 2025 at 11:06pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 20th, 2025 at 10:12pm:
We know Maxwell's brother was a colonel in mossad.


Was this the brother who died in Auschwitz during WWII?  Interesting trick being able to work for an organisation when you're dead.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes




Ghillanes brother not Roberts brother .try to keep up


Ghilliane's brother Ian is described as a, "businessman" who has never worked for Mossad as far as Wikipedia describes him.  He has, since leaving school worked for succession of various publishing houses.  So, where is your evidence that he was a, "Mossad colonel" come from?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Your "I'm more educated than most here" at work before our eyes, Bbwiyawn!  Cheesy Grin Grin

You are positively Thicko Smitho and Sad Teapot level intellectual, comlete with 'knowing' tut tuts and eyerolling!! You are youd own parody, vain old trolling duffer.


Does bwian know ghillane was the 9 th child in the macwell family.


Who cares?  We aren't discussing Ghiliane.  Why are you avoiding answering a simple question, Aqua?  Run away like a useless troll.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


So, please answer the question, Aqua.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


That's unfair, Brian. Aquascoot has addressed your question.

He's raised the pertinent point that while the RINOs and lefties demand justice for the victims of the most notorious child sex trafficking ring in US history, they haven't said a word about Pakistani drug dealers in Bradford, UK, back in SINCE 2002

Why the hypocrisy?

Crickets chirping.




SINCE, grimacing liar, EVER SINCE.

Why the hypocrisy?

Why the sound of one hand clapping from ALL you TDS mongs?
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Re: Epstein’s Plane Was Even Sicker Than We Thought
Reply #109 - Nov 22nd, 2025 at 2:20pm
 
Frank wrote on Nov 22nd, 2025 at 1:50pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Nov 22nd, 2025 at 1:43pm:
Frank wrote on Nov 22nd, 2025 at 1:33pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Nov 22nd, 2025 at 12:12pm:
Frank wrote on Nov 22nd, 2025 at 12:07pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Nov 22nd, 2025 at 11:40am:
The idea that "omg but what about the Democrats that will be exposed in the files, bet you didn't think about that!?" bullshit you and those like you keep trying to push is insane, especially when you follow it up with "well, it's not like they were 5, they were 14+!"...

What... NO!

These people you're defending sexually abused 14 years old, but it's ok because you're trying to debate "what is a child" and trying to reframe it as younger than 10 or 11...




You are lying, fantasist little pseud. You are simply lying.

You make up your idiotic fantasies so you and gweegy creep and karnal can fap to them. Then it's gweggy creep's turn to make up lying shite and you fap to that. Then comes karnal, then armchair, sprinty  - and it's all of you, al together: fappity fap, fappity fap.

Ludicrous.


If it's so ludicrous, then make the commitment now.

If Trump is found to have sexually abused someone under the age of 18, will you condemn him for it?

Will you finally drop your support for him, or will you just invent another excuse and pretend it doesn't count?



Correct your ludicrous fantasies and lies first, before you pile loaded hypotheticals on top of them to cover them up, ridicuous, lying litte 'intellectual'.





So, that's a No.

I didn't think you'd be able to commit you spineless bitch.



I didn't think you would correct your  slanderous lies, little teapot.  Instead you opted, as usual, for lame-o diversionary tactics of covering up your lies with slanderous hypotheticals.

Then, when you are found out (not difficult), you snarl and yap like the 'intellectual' fantasist you are.  Ludicrous.



Here's how this will play out jackass.

I'll ask you what lies you're talking about.

You'll refuse to answer, trying to drag this out with insults or ghosting until you think I've forgotten that you can't bring yourself to comit to condemning Trump or dropping support for him if he's found to have abused children under the age of 18.

You'll then come back with some silly Babylon Bee article that's vaguely related to a word in the topic and start abusing people all over again.

How about you stop running from the question and just answer it?

This bullshit game of yours only makes you look complicit with whatever ever it is you're trying to distract from.

When that's the sexual.abuse and rape of children, it's not a good look you creep.
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Re: Epstein’s Plane Was Even Sicker Than We Thought
Reply #110 - Nov 22nd, 2025 at 2:21pm
 
Leroy wrote on Nov 22nd, 2025 at 1:54pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 22nd, 2025 at 1:52pm:
Why say good bye when you can't find a post where i supported anyone having sex with children.

You are nearly as delusional as karmal


Typical leftie, her only response is "orange man bad".


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Reply #111 - Nov 22nd, 2025 at 2:30pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Nov 22nd, 2025 at 1:52pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Nov 22nd, 2025 at 12:27pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 22nd, 2025 at 11:50am:
And the breathtaking hypocrisy of the left.

500 Pakistani men tie up and administer heroin to 14 yo white girls .1500 of them .
And 10 years later not one charge.


But Elon hooks up with some 17 yo who is above the age of consent .
She gets to fly in a Lear jet, meet Steven hawking and bill Clinton and you want him hung .

You couldn't even charge him with anything, other then being more sexually attractive then creepers like gweg.
Own your incel status


Just because no one wants to indulge your off-topic deflection in defence of Trump and Epstein doesn't mean they condone what happened.

It's off topic, that's all.

It's not an area I claim expertise in, but even taking your version of events at face value, which is generous given how recklessly you treat the truth, I'd hope every one of those men is brought to justice. There's no excuse for any of it, and they should have their day in court and, if found guilty, be removed from society. That sort of behaviour is indefensible, and they've forfeited their right to live alongside the rest of us.

But the thread is about "Epstein's Plane Was Even Sicker Than We Thought". It has nothing to do with the unrelated outrage you keep waving around as a smokescreen to avoid talking about Epstein.

One might even call that defending Epstein.

aquascoot wrote on Jul 26th, 2025 at 6:35pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 26th, 2025 at 4:17pm:
I'm saying that you are defending Maxwell and Epstein, who are both convicted child sex traffickers.

Stop defending paedophiles.


Why must the left lie.
Find a post where I defended them and I will leave the forum forever


Bye bitch.



Why say good bye when you can't find a post where i supported anyone having sex with children.

You are nearly as delusional as karmal


They're hardly children, dear. Check out these hotties:



Spunky, sophisticated, sassy - some shrewd little operators in there too, am I right?

They know what they're doing. They'd pass for 16 during a routine roadside stop - especially if the cop used a torch.

No worries.
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Re: Epstein’s Plane Was Even Sicker Than We Thought
Reply #112 - Nov 22nd, 2025 at 2:32pm
 
Leroy wrote on Nov 22nd, 2025 at 1:54pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 22nd, 2025 at 1:52pm:
Why say good bye when you can't find a post where i supported anyone having sex with children.

You are nearly as delusional as karmal


Typical leftie, her only response is "orange man bad".

The orange man is bad, dipshit  RuZZian troll
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Reply #113 - Nov 22nd, 2025 at 2:35pm
 
ProudKangaroo wrote on Nov 22nd, 2025 at 2:20pm:
Frank wrote on Nov 22nd, 2025 at 1:50pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Nov 22nd, 2025 at 1:43pm:
Frank wrote on Nov 22nd, 2025 at 1:33pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Nov 22nd, 2025 at 12:12pm:
Frank wrote on Nov 22nd, 2025 at 12:07pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Nov 22nd, 2025 at 11:40am:
The idea that "omg but what about the Democrats that will be exposed in the files, bet you didn't think about that!?" bullshit you and those like you keep trying to push is insane, especially when you follow it up with "well, it's not like they were 5, they were 14+!"...

What... NO!

These people you're defending sexually abused 14 years old, but it's ok because you're trying to debate "what is a child" and trying to reframe it as younger than 10 or 11...




You are lying, fantasist little pseud. You are simply lying.

You make up your idiotic fantasies so you and gweegy creep and karnal can fap to them. Then it's gweggy creep's turn to make up lying shite and you fap to that. Then comes karnal, then armchair, sprinty  - and it's all of you, al together: fappity fap, fappity fap.

Ludicrous.


If it's so ludicrous, then make the commitment now.

If Trump is found to have sexually abused someone under the age of 18, will you condemn him for it?

Will you finally drop your support for him, or will you just invent another excuse and pretend it doesn't count?



Correct your ludicrous fantasies and lies first, before you pile loaded hypotheticals on top of them to cover them up, ridicuous, lying litte 'intellectual'.





So, that's a No.

I didn't think you'd be able to commit you spineless bitch.



I didn't think you would correct your  slanderous lies, little teapot.  Instead you opted, as usual, for lame-o diversionary tactics of covering up your lies with slanderous hypotheticals.

Then, when you are found out (not difficult), you snarl and yap like the 'intellectual' fantasist you are.  Ludicrous.



Here's how this will play out jackass.

I'll ask you what lies you're talking about.

You'll refuse to answer, trying to drag this out with insults or ghosting until you think I've forgotten that you can't bring yourself to comit to condemning Trump or dropping support for him if he's found to have abused children under the age of 18.

You'll then come back with some silly Babylon Bee article that's vaguely related to a word in the topic and start abusing people all over again.

How about you stop running from the question and just answer it?

This bullshit game of yours only makes you look complicit with whatever ever it is you're trying to distract from.

When that's the sexual.abuse and rape of children, it's not a good look you creep.

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Reply #114 - Nov 22nd, 2025 at 2:45pm
 
Frank wrote on Nov 22nd, 2025 at 2:12pm:
Karnal wrote on Nov 22nd, 2025 at 2:08pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 22nd, 2025 at 10:19am:
As you appear to have missed this the first time.

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21st, 2025 at 6:47pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 21st, 2025 at 4:27pm:
Frank wrote on Nov 21st, 2025 at 4:21pm:
09Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21st, 2025 at 4:18pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 21st, 2025 at 2:53pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21st, 2025 at 2:49pm:
Just repeating in case you missed my question the first time.  Care to answer?

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 20th, 2025 at 11:06pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 20th, 2025 at 10:12pm:
We know Maxwell's brother was a colonel in mossad.


Was this the brother who died in Auschwitz during WWII?  Interesting trick being able to work for an organisation when you're dead.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes




Ghillanes brother not Roberts brother .try to keep up


Ghilliane's brother Ian is described as a, "businessman" who has never worked for Mossad as far as Wikipedia describes him.  He has, since leaving school worked for succession of various publishing houses.  So, where is your evidence that he was a, "Mossad colonel" come from?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Your "I'm more educated than most here" at work before our eyes, Bbwiyawn!  Cheesy Grin Grin

You are positively Thicko Smitho and Sad Teapot level intellectual, comlete with 'knowing' tut tuts and eyerolling!! You are youd own parody, vain old trolling duffer.


Does bwian know ghillane was the 9 th child in the macwell family.


Who cares?  We aren't discussing Ghiliane.  Why are you avoiding answering a simple question, Aqua?  Run away like a useless troll.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


So, please answer the question, Aqua.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


That's unfair, Brian. Aquascoot has addressed your question.

He's raised the pertinent point that while the RINOs and lefties demand justice for the victims of the most notorious child sex trafficking ring in US history, they haven't said a word about Pakistani drug dealers in Bradford, UK, back in SINCE 2002

Why the hypocrisy?

Crickets chirping.




SINCE, grimacing liar, EVER SINCE.

Why the hypocrisy?

Why the sound of one hand clapping from ALL you TDS mongs?


Ever SINCE, is it?

Quote:
Detective Sergeant John Roberts is head of Gloucestershire's new policing priority unit, principally aimed at tackling the drugs problem. Since its launch in June, the nine-strong team has arrested more than 100 people and carried out over 140 stop and searches.


https://www.theguardian.com/society/2004/oct/23/drugsandalcohol.drugs

The article's 21 years old, so it looks like there's been some progress, old boy.

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Reply #115 - Nov 22nd, 2025 at 3:28pm
 

So many conservatives defending/covering up child sexual abuse   Angry
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Reply #116 - Nov 22nd, 2025 at 3:50pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2025 at 3:28pm:
So many conservatives defending/covering up child sexual abuse   Angry


So many lefties suffering from TDS. Grin Grin
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Reply #117 - Nov 22nd, 2025 at 4:41pm
 
Leroy wrote on Nov 22nd, 2025 at 3:50pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2025 at 3:28pm:
So many conservatives defending/covering up child sexual abuse   Angry


So many lefties suffering from TDS. Grin Grin


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Reply #118 - Nov 22nd, 2025 at 4:54pm
 
ProudKangaroo wrote on Nov 22nd, 2025 at 4:41pm:
Leroy wrote on Nov 22nd, 2025 at 3:50pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 22nd, 2025 at 3:28pm:
So many conservatives defending/covering up child sexual abuse   Angry


So many lefties suffering from TDS. Grin Grin


Quiet Piggy.

Them's the intellectual kangaroo, Leroy.

A proud intellectual kangaroo.

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Reply #119 - Nov 22nd, 2025 at 5:12pm
 
ProudKangaroo wrote on Nov 22nd, 2025 at 2:20pm:
If it's so ludicrous, then make the commitment now.

If Trump is found to have sexually abused someone under the age of 18, will you condemn him for it?

Will you finally drop your support for him, or will you just invent another excuse and pretend it doesn't count.


Looks like you've got your no, Sad.

No, the old boy won't shift if the evidence comes out that DL banged prepubescents.

No, he won't shift if DL tries to stay in power in 2029.

No, he won't shift if DL, prez, tells soldiers to follow illegal orders and calls for the execution of anyone who says otherwise.

Does this finally confirm your suspicions?

The old boy will never come round to "be better". He will never come to any realization of truth, justice, shared humanity or what the Americans like to call the American way, a constitutional republic based on human rights.

The old boy, you see, is a card-carrying Nazi, a full-blown goosestepper. Yes, he'd support a proven kiddie fiddler, but that's the least of our problems. The old boy supports the world's most influential democracy being turned into a dystopian authoritarian kleptocracy.

The old boy has been hiding his Nazism for the past two decades - all through his support for Bush/Cheney, the Project for the New American Century and his push for endless wars. All through the Obama years and his giggles over Obama's feigned Kenyan birth and status as a Muslim. All though the first failed Trump term, the spineless, sycophantic apologism for Russian aggression and the final attempts to coup, for the first time in US history, a presidential election.

If you were ever in any doubt then, the old boy has remained steadfast through the second Trump term and the now blatant calls to overturn democracy, impose a dictatorship and export this to the rest of the Western world, including Canada, Europe and jolly old Oz.

Yes, the old boy hardly wants to stop at America, he wants fascism exported to Australia as well, the country he ever so eagerly flew to, but for which he has displayed nothing but contempt since he came.

The old boy, you see, believes in the supremacy of what he calls white Western culture, which he holds as having dominion over the world, including the lands of what the old boy calls the despicable tinted races. He actually contends he has more right to Australia than Australians because he holds superior values that correlate to his European genes.

That's what all the references to Paki Bastards, Calabrian Dagos and Slovenian Tjurds mean. These are inferior to his so-called northern European - ahem - culture.

According to the old boy, he is not an old school racialist, but a culturalist. If you ask him about racism, he disagrees with the very premise. He sees the term racist as so unfair, an accusation merely intended to deny a voice to poor, downtrodden Nazis like himself, who merely want to make the world a better place by excluding Pakis, Dagos and Tjurds.

Whenever we've enquired what the old boy's superior values actually are, he has one of his meltdowns. If you have to ask, we're told, you'll never know. The closest the old boy's come to defining his superior culture is anything that's not pwogressive, agit-prop propaganda and despicable, tendentious gwimacing, posturing, pouting and preening.

Superior culture, it would seem, exists solely as an antithetical repulsion to whatever the old boy defines in any given day as being of the left, or tinted, or both.

Because the old boy's superior aesthetics are so shapeless, they can be expanded from their once austere protestant restraint to include such extreme expressions of wealth as the kitsch, fake Renoirs, gilded frescos and gold toilets of the Trump penthouse. To be fair to the Nazis, they at least had good taste in uniforms, parades and bondage gear, not the old boy's fuhrer.

Indeed, we can shift ethnically too. While he still blames Islam (for everything), he's now happy to invite the most brutal Muslim regime of the lot into the tent, reconfigure geopolitical plates, splash and launder Saudi cash, provide them with arms and watch their fundamentalist doctrine quietly spread throughout our own region as their power takes hold. He celebrates this while Europe and Canada, custodians of the Western tradition, are tariffed, scolded and excluded, a deliberate strategy to reduce their influence.

As you can see, Sad, not even the old boy's hatred of Muslims will shift him. His lack of values means he's free to follow DL to the very end, and do you know? He will too.

But this begs the inevitable. When DL goes, what do you think he'll do? He's had to forfeit the rule of law, elections, democracy, reason and all reference to any actual facts, truth and logic. He will, as we all know, be led by a kiddie fiddler too, he's all but conceded this. How's he possibly going to feign Superior Culture after this?

No, the old boy will never shift his allegiance, but in the end, where's he going to go?
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