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Reply #30 - Yesterday at 12:59pm
 
freediver wrote Yesterday at 12:24pm:
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That meant that all people, regardless of religion, ethnicity, or political views, were equal under Israeli law.


And still are. Arab Muslims make up about 20% of Israel's population. Unlike other middle eastern countries whose Jewish population is close enough to zero - thanks to the efforts of Muslims inspired by Hitler's holocaust. Those Arab Muslims who chose to stay in Israel have more rights and freedoms, and more say in the governance of the country, than in any other middle eastern or north african country.

What point are you trying to make, BTW?

Given you're willfully ignorant of Israel's modern history, it's not surprising you'd miss the point.

Palestinian Jewish leaders (as pre-Israelis) did everything they could to remove those who were, Ben Gurion's, 'strangers in our land' in preparation for the declaration of the Jewish state of Israel.

They were not 100% successful, and those Arabs within Israel's provisional borders at the moment of Israel's declaration of statehood and its acknowledgement at the UN, automatically became Israeli citizens. They were not invited to stay by Palestinian Jews cum Jewish Israelis, nor were they, or have they been since, encouraged to stay.

Most Arab Israelis claim they suffer discrimination and are treated with suspicion by Jewish Israelis.

There was no Nazi-inspired Holocaust, mini or otherwise, of Jews living in Arab states, by Muslims. There was a significant migration of Middle Eastern Jews into Israel once it was declared a nation-state.

The problem reared its ugly head again when Israel illegally annexed East Jerusalem, only this time the secure Israeli state declared East Jerusalem's Arab residents as permanent residents, not as citizens, making it easier to expel them as and when deemed necessary.
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Reply #31 - Today at 4:01pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote Yesterday at 12:59pm:
freediver wrote Yesterday at 12:24pm:
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That meant that all people, regardless of religion, ethnicity, or political views, were equal under Israeli law.


And still are. Arab Muslims make up about 20% of Israel's population. Unlike other middle eastern countries whose Jewish population is close enough to zero - thanks to the efforts of Muslims inspired by Hitler's holocaust. Those Arab Muslims who chose to stay in Israel have more rights and freedoms, and more say in the governance of the country, than in any other middle eastern or north african country.

What point are you trying to make, BTW?

Given you're willfully ignorant of Israel's modern history, it's not surprising you'd miss the point.

Palestinian Jewish leaders (as pre-Israelis) did everything they could to remove those who were, Ben Gurion's, 'strangers in our land' in preparation for the declaration of the Jewish state of Israel.

They were not 100% successful, and those Arabs within Israel's provisional borders at the moment of Israel's declaration of statehood and its acknowledgement at the UN, automatically became Israeli citizens. They were not invited to stay by Palestinian Jews cum Jewish Israelis, nor were they, or have they been since, encouraged to stay.

Most Arab Israelis claim they suffer discrimination and are treated with suspicion by Jewish Israelis.

There was no Nazi-inspired Holocaust, mini or otherwise, of Jews living in Arab states, by Muslims. There was a significant migration of Middle Eastern Jews into Israel once it was declared a nation-state.

The problem reared its ugly head again when Israel illegally annexed East Jerusalem, only this time the secure Israeli state declared East Jerusalem's Arab residents as permanent residents, not as citizens, making it easier to expel them as and when deemed necessary.



So why then were Arabs given full rights as Israeli citizens?  You quibble over 'they weren't invited to stay' (BS) - and yet they weren't driven out either unless they waged war on Israelis.  You're just playing silly buggars with semantics.

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Reply #32 - Today at 5:08pm
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote Today at 4:01pm:
So why then were Arabs given full rights as Israeli citizens?  You quibble over 'they weren't invited to stay' (BS) - and yet they weren't driven out either unless they waged war on Israelis.  You're just playing silly buggars with semantics.


Thought you'd angle into this thread now, eh!

For a 'special ops guy', they didn't teach you much.

If they

- Were present in Israel on 14 July 1952
- Had been continuously resident since 14 May 1948
- Were registered in the population registry

Most Arab Israelis believe they are discriminated against by Jewish Israelis. Most Jewish Israelis admit they treat Arab Israelis with suspicion at best, hostility at worst.

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Reply #33 - Today at 5:32pm
 
If I wes a Jew I wouldn't be keen on having people in my country whose holy book and imams say that there will be no peace on earth until all the Jews are killed off by them.

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Reply #34 - Today at 5:40pm
 
Your Islamophobia is self-evident in all your posts, Soren.  What a WOFTAM you are. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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It seems that I have upset a Moderator and are forbidden from using posting to the general forum now. So much for Freedom of Speech. Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #35 - Today at 5:58pm
 
Brian Ross wrote Today at 5:40pm:
Your Islamophobia is self-evident in all your posts, Soren.  What a WOFTAM you are. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

No Right Islam turn!

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Reply #36 - Today at 6:01pm
 
Frank wrote Today at 5:32pm:
If I wes a Jew I wouldn't be keen on having people in my country whose holy book and imams say that there will be no peace on earth until all the Jews are killed off by them.


Militant Arabs' hostility is focused on Israel's existence in what they claim is Arab land, as Jabotinsky told his Jewish comrades, adding that Arab resistance is natural and justified.

The Iron Wall

- No colonised people consent voluntarily
- Arabs will resist Jewish statehood



Ethics of the Iron Wall
- Arabs are justified in resisting foreign sovereignty
- Pretending this resistance can be talked away is dishonest



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Reply #37 - Today at 6:25pm
 
Brian Ross wrote Today at 5:40pm:
Your Islamophobia is self-evident in all your posts, Soren.  What a WOFTAM you are. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Well - that's a relief at a time when Denmark is having 70%+ of its population calling for the remigration of criminals and welfare dodgers... all the best Civilised Tribes are standing together so it can't be Islmophobia.... another madeup word to stand alongside transphobia and a few others ... one day a learned professor will dust off an ancient tome and say ..."Well - it's in here somewhere..... it was a true oddity of the early 21st century... but that was a long time ago now ..."......
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