Gnads wrote on Nov 19
th, 2025 at 8:23am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 13
th, 2025 at 4:43pm:
lee wrote on Nov 13
th, 2025 at 10:42am:
Green energy is too expensive due to intermittency. It would require multiple expensive batteries.
The batteries are currently available; the grid needs to be upgraded.
Naturally the filthy fossil industry doesn't want to invest in the green economy - and private investors won't do so without government guidelines - because filthy fossils (including for smelting iron) are very lucrative (unlike free sunshine and wind).
Quote:Nothing a politician likes more is GREEN. Money, energy...
Susan Ley is on stronger ground today, by pointing to the cost of the transition which - as she correctly says - is pushing up electricity prices.
Solution: the government opens a special account at treasury, named 'green financing', and funds it with free treasury-issued money.
Then Oz can buy all the batteries and new grid it needs, for free....
Please tell us why or how this would cause inflation, given private investors could spend the same amount of money - but won't without being assured the fossil industry must be radically reduced by (say) 2040...sorry for the suggestion, Susan.
You must live under the same rock a Smith.
No; John - like you, Albo and most of the population - doesn't understand money is created ex nihilo.
So today we see Albo cutting CSIRO and funding for public hospitals to save taxpayer money, when the treasury can create the damn stuff ex nihilo, without cauing inflation.
No wonder the cynics refer to a poltical choice between'tweedle-dum and tweedle-dee'.
Quote:The fossil fuel industries have also been investing in the mad renewables drive to cash in on the subsidies.
Of course, they accept the world has signed up to the Paris commitments - while still wanting to exploit lucrative filthy fossils).
Quote:They difference being they also know we need a balanced mix of methods of supply because renewables(so called) on their own are just a ridiculous pipe dream.
Now the lee nonsense: Oz can easily power itself with renewables, given its vast sunny, windy deserts ....and Singapore as well (who doesn't have these).
Quote:Batteries might be available but they extremely expensive & have to be huge in footprint. They are used mostly to even out supply from intermittent/fluctuating power from wind & solar. If required to supply the grid during a power outage/failure they have a very limited supply time before they are exhausted.
The combination of large grid-scale batteries with millions of
small domestic rooftop-connected batteries will provide massive storage capacity. There in lays the other pipe dream. Forcing/coercing people onto battery systems with freebies that the govt want to control..... but divest themselves of any responsibility for the supply a domestic essential service. It will be all at the expense of the resident.
Then you have the idea that was tossed up in Victoria that residential solar owners who export power to the grid will be charged for doing that instead of being paid for their input.
At any rate you numpty it's not just about powering homes/residences.
It about the capacity to power industry or are you happy that Australia loses all industrial capacity & becomes a net importer of everything?
Especially from the CCP you love so much.
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