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Reply #30 - Nov 10th, 2025 at 8:57am
 
What is amusing is when less experienced American conservatives, like, say, Dave Rubin, interview the likes of John Anderson, there is the uncomfortable dancing around the fact that, to Rubin's ear, Anderson comes across as an American liberal.

Anderson, for his part, likes to drop a few religious (Christian) affirmations to calm the waters, and probably to ease Rublin's fear that his audience will think he's 'turning socialist'.
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Reply #31 - Nov 10th, 2025 at 9:07am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 10th, 2025 at 8:40am:
Frank wrote on Nov 10th, 2025 at 8:21am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 10th, 2025 at 8:05am:
Frank wrote on Nov 10th, 2025 at 7:27am:
You cannot know anything about Americans' attitude towards Australian politics, other than indifference, given that they have no unified creed and dont talk about Australia.

So, you've never listened to, or engaged with, American, British, or Australian political commentators when they discuss American attitudes towards Australian (or British) politics relative to those of Americans, then.

Of course you didn't.. If you didn't pull it out of your arse, you don't comprehend it.


So political commentators speak for entire countries. They speak for a unified American view of Australian politics, shared by Trump, Kackela, Mamdani, Bidden, Sharpton and Vance, Darlene, Buck and Chuck.

Got it. Homogeneity is their strength.

They speak for a little bit more than what you are, Agatha Frank (they/them).

They know what they're talking about, nearly all having had experience in the Australian, British and American political worlds, and who have interviewed senior political figures and political academics from all 3 countries.

The most glaringly obvious to Americans is that Australian mainstream conservatism supports:

universal healthcare,
tight gun laws,
publicly funded education and media,
environmental regulation, and
pragmatic, secular governance

These are all leftist/liberal American platforms


You simply do not see how ludicrously large claims you are making to support your various bees in your bonnet.

Not all American, British oor Australian political commentator speak for all of America, Britain, Australia. There is a wide range of political commentary, as are views in these countries.

What the ABC, BBC, the Granuiad, CNN, Crickey, etc give voice to is NOT representtive of the range of politica views. Nor is The Noticer, Sky, Fox, Breitbart or whatever.  Neither Anderson nor Rubin speak for their entire countries.


To shortcircuit any difference of views by declaring your own as THE KORREKT one is laughable and childish. Bbwiyanesque, to coin a phrase.

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Reply #32 - Nov 10th, 2025 at 9:50am
 
Frank wrote on Nov 10th, 2025 at 9:07am:
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You simply do not see how ludicrously large claims you are making to support your various bees in your bonnet.

Not all American, British oor Australian political commentator speak for all of America, Britain, Australia. There is a wide range of political commentary, as are views in these countries.

What the ABC, BBC, the Granuiad, CNN, Crickey, etc give voice to is NOT representtive of the range of politica views. Nor is The Noticer, Sky, Fox, Breitbart or whatever.  Neither Anderson nor Rubin speak for their entire countries.


To shortcircuit any difference of views by declaring your own as THE KORREKT one is laughable and childish. Bbwiyanesque, to coin a phrase.


Your sexuality clouds your judgement, Agatha Frank (they/them).

Post one experienced political commentator who contradicts what I've posted... Just one... and make sure they're of the Sir Niall Ferguson, Rory Stewart, Alastair Campbell, Michael Wolff calibre...

You won't find one.

It's often an in-joke between British and Australian commentators when listening to inexperienced American commentators waxing lyrical on the commonalities between Australian/British political sensibilities when misaligned with American ones.

My reference to Dave Rubin was to highlight what happens when inexperienced commentators turn up in Australia expecting left and right to mean the same thing here as they do in the US.

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Re: Is Australia a Crypto-Republic?
Reply #33 - Nov 10th, 2025 at 10:03am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 10th, 2025 at 9:50am:
My reference to Dave Rubin was to highlight what happens when inexperienced commentators turn up in Australia expecting left and right to mean the same thing here as they do in the US.


For contrast, listen to a John Anderson, Konstantin Kisin or Niall Ferguson, interview...

They're politically aligned in the British/Australian context...

While they might disagree, there's no awkward moments, no political misunderstandings, no lightbulb moments when one realises the other is talking at cross purposes...
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Reply #34 - Nov 10th, 2025 at 10:37am
 
Would any Australian mainstream conservative politician publicly rail against universal healthcare, tight gun laws, publicly funded education, environmental regulation or pragmatic, secular governance?

It was a conservative Australian Prime Minister who championed and rammed through the tightest gun law legislation in the nation's history, which has remained intact for nearly 30 years, despite multiple governments - in American terms, that's about as extreme left as you can get, without the green uniform and red-star beret.

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