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Nov 6th, 2025 at 8:00pm
 
Well, we knew it was.

UAH6 to end October 2025:

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The Version 6.1 global average lower tropospheric temperature (LT) anomaly for October, 2025 was +0.53 deg. C departure from the 1991-2020 mean, unchanged from the September, 2025 value.

The Version 6.1 global area-averaged linear temperature trend (January 1979 through October 2025) remains at +0.16 deg/ C/decade (+0.22 C/decade over land, +0.13 C/decade over oceans).


https://www.drroyspencer.com/2025/11/uah-v6-1-global-temperature-update-for-octo...

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Reply #1 - Nov 6th, 2025 at 8:03pm
 
You would expect to find this discussed in Environment but the mod there is an idiot who dropped out of high school.

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Reply #2 - Nov 6th, 2025 at 8:20pm
 
Of course, we knew AGW was continuing, extreme heat continues as do wildfires.
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Reply #3 - Nov 6th, 2025 at 11:37pm
 
Looking at the graph shows temperatures rose at a steeper rate after 2010.
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Reply #4 - Nov 7th, 2025 at 12:18am
 
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Third warmest October since 1979, though someway down from the previous two years.

Year Anomaly
1 2023 0.78
2 2024 0.75
3 2025 0.53
4 2017 0.47
5 2020 0.36
6 2021 0.34
7 2015 0.28
8 2016 0.28
9 2019 0.27
10 1998 0.24


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Reply #5 - Nov 7th, 2025 at 8:33am
 
UAH6 uses a straight line fit, with a slowly increasing temperature gain.

Straight line is not always the best fit, here are linear, first and second polynomials fitted to the data. Notice that temperature is increasing at more than a linear rate.

There is something else too. Have a look at the 1998 temperature spike in the UAH6 graph: a rapid rise then decline to the same temperature as before the peak.

Now look at the latest peak and the decline just after it. Not very similar to the 1998 peak, is it? In fact, despite there not being an El Nino the decline halted and temperatures started increasing again. The 2016 El Nino peak shows a similar end to the decline well above the starting temperature.

With data like temperature data comparing two individual temperatures is meaningless, too much statistical noise. You need to look at the trend.


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Reply #6 - Nov 9th, 2025 at 9:22am
 
As well as the tropospheric UAH6 series Copernicus shows AGW is keeping on keeping on:
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Reply #7 - Nov 9th, 2025 at 9:32am
 
Chart for October temperatures:

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Reply #8 - Nov 9th, 2025 at 9:34am
 
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According to the ERA5 dataset, globally October 2025 was:

0.70°C warmer than the 1991-2020 average for October, with an absolute surface air temperature of 15.14°C.
the third-warmest October on record, 0.16°C cooler than the record October of 2023 and only 0.11°C cooler than October 2024.
1.55°C warmer than an estimate of the pre-industrial October average for 1850-1900.
October 2025 ends a short period of five months that were below 1.5°C above pre-industrial levels. October is thus the 27th month in the ERA5 data record over that level. The majority (21) of such months were recorded in a near-continuous streak between July 2023 and April 2025, and the earliest three were January to March 2016.

Given the small differences in global temperature anomalies relative to 1991–2020 among datasets, the months identified here as exceeding or not exceeding the 1.5°C threshold may differ in datasets other than ERA5. Furthermore, due to dataset differences, there is inherent uncertainty in the estimated temperature change from pre-industrial levels to the 1991–2020 average.


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Averaging over 12-month periods smooths out shorter-term variations in regional- and global-average temperatures.

Globally, the annual average for the latest 12-month period (November 2024 to October 2025) was:

0.62°C above the 1991-2020 average, and 1.50°C above the estimated 1850-1900 average used to define the pre-industrial level

0.14°C below the record global-average temperature anomaly of 0.76°C above the 1991-2020 average registered for each of the three 12-month periods ending in June, July and August 2024.


https://climate.copernicus.eu/surface-air-temperature-october-2025
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Reply #9 - Nov 9th, 2025 at 9:39am
 
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Averaging over 12-month periods smooths out shorter-term variations in regional- and global-average temperatures.

Globally, the annual average for the latest 12-month period (November 2024 to October 2025) was:

0.62°C above the 1991-2020 average, and 1.50°C above the estimated 1850-1900 average used to define the pre-industrial level
0.14°C below the record global-average temperature anomaly of 0.76°C above the 1991-2020 average registered for each of the three 12-month periods ending in June, July and August 2024.

With 10 months of data now available for 2025, it is possible to further refine the temperature outlook for the year as a whole, as well as its expected ranking. Averaged over January to October, the global temperature anomaly currently stands at 0.60°C above the 1991–2020 average, making 2025 the second-warmest year for this 10-month period, 0.12°C cooler than 2024 and 0.04°C warmer than 2023.

Our projection of the global temperature anomaly for the full year, based on a simple statistical model fitted to past ERA5 data, gives a 95% confidence interval of 0.57°C to 0.63°C above average. This would make 2025 the second- or third-warmest year, possibly tied with 2023 (0.60°C), which currently ranks second, and behind 2024 (0.72°C), the warmest year on record. The predicted range corresponds to 1.45–1.51°C above the 1850–1900 pre-industrial reference, with our model indicating less than a 10% chance of exceeding 1.5°C. However, with the global average temperature having reached 1.48°C in 2023 and 1.60°C in 2024 relative to the pre-industrial level, even the lower end of the predicted range for 2025 would result in a 3-year average above 1.5°C, according to the ERA5 dataset*. This would be the first time that this has occurred in the instrumental period.

Even though 2025 may end up as warm as 2023, the climate context of the two years differs. In particular, the recent onset of La Niña conditions is expected to have a moderating effect on global temperature anomalies towards the end of 2025, whereas the end of 2023 was marked by a strong El Niño event reaching its peak intensity, contributing to higher global temperature anomalies.


Looking at the graph we see temperatures steadily and pretty rapidly approaching the first danger point of 1.5°C above “preindustrial” and there is nothing there to slow it when crossing that marker temperature. We can also see that in about 1990 and again in about 2012 the temperature increase accelerated.
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Reply #10 - Nov 9th, 2025 at 9:46am
 
And yet again I pose the question:

WHY THE HELL DO WE NOT SEE CONTENT LIKE THIS IS WHAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE ENVIRONMENT BOARD?


Any wonder post count
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one hundred bloody posts?


A high school dropout and all round idiot like Booby can NOT manage a scientific board like Environment! How long is this MORON going to be allowed to drag OzPolitic down to oblivion?

Same applies to Economics (no actual mod!) and Health!
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Reply #11 - Nov 9th, 2025 at 10:48am
 
Geographical:

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Cooler temperatures off northern South America could indicate a La Nina forming, as discussed above.

Australia is warmer than usual—as we knew!

Copernicus comment:
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In October 2025, warmer-than-average temperatures were seen over large parts of northern and western Europe. The most pronounced positive anomalies were recorded over northern Fennoscandia, as well as over the southern Iberian Peninsula. Below-average temperatures were mostly experienced over southeastern Europe. The largest anomalies were seen in a region stretching from the western Balkans, with Serbia and Bosnia experiencing heavy snowfall early in the month, into southern Poland and Ukraine. Iceland and parts of France also experienced below-average temperatures.

Outside Europe, the largest positive temperature anomalies were recorded over both polar regions, as well as over the Himalayas and the Tibetan Plateau. In the Arctic, this was particularly the case over the Canadian archipelago, around Baffin Bay and over the central Arctic Ocean, where anomalies were more than 8°C above average. The same Arctic sector experienced much-below-average sea ice cover. Most of Eastern Antarctica saw much-warmer-than-average temperatures, with large regions seeing values also more than 8°C above average. Other regions with warmer-than-average temperatures include the central parts of both Canada and the US, northwesternmost Africa, parts of the central Asian republics, eastern China and most of Australia.  A very large region of below-average temperatures was seen for Asia, covering much of southern and eastern Russia and Mongolia, as well as the eastern parts of Kazakhstan and northernmost China. A small region with very large anomalies was also recorded for parts of the Himalayan range. Other large regions with below-average temperatures include parts of Brazil, Uruguay and Paraguay and the western US.


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Reply #12 - Nov 9th, 2025 at 12:12pm
 
Sea surface temperatures:

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While sea surface temperatures (SSTs) continue to be very high, throughout the month of October daily temperatures were tracking close to those of October 2015, the fourth warmest month on record. The average SST for 60°S–60°N for October 2025 was 20.54°C, 0.34°C above the 1991-2020 average, placing it third highest on record for October, 0.24°C and 0.14°C lower than the values of 2023 and 2024, respectively, and just 0.02°C above October 2015.

Most of the northern Pacific continued to experience above-average SSTs over an area similar to that of September, with record highs this month particularly in the west, associated with marine heatwaves there. Other large regions with much-warmer-than-average to record-warm SSTs include the eastern Indian Ocean, with a marine heatwave southwest of Indonesia, much of the Arctic, as well as a region off the coast of East Antarctica, in a sector marked by much-below-average sea ice cover. The western equatorial and southern Pacific and the Gulf of Mexico and the Caribbean generally saw much warmer-than-average SSTs with some small record-high pockets.

The most below-average SSTs were recorded in the Sea of Okhotsk, in the western Indian Ocean and in the eastern Pacific, off the western coast of Mexico. SSTs were close to or below average in the central and eastern equatorial Pacific, reflecting a transition from ENSO-neutral to weak La Niña conditions.  Other cooler-than-average basins include part of the North Atlantic and the Ocean off the coast of Brazil.
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Reply #13 - Yesterday at 4:05pm
 
BEST shows the same results:

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Reply #14 - Yesterday at 4:09pm
 
Again I ask:
WHY DO WE NOT SEE THIS SORT OF INFORMATION IN WHAT IS
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Anyone else think that the lack of technical/scientific posts in Environment, Economics and Finance and Health and Welfare is dragging down the SEO ranking, the visibility, of OzPolitic?

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