Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 7
th, 2025 at 9:03am:
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Quote:Pandemic epicenter
As 2019 turned into 2020, a coronavirus spilled over from wild animals into people, sparking what has become one of the best documented pandemics to afflict humans. However, the origins of the pandemic in December 2019 are controversial. Worobey et al. amassed the variety of evidence from the City of Wuhan, China, where the first human infections were reported. These reports confirm that most of the earliest human cases centered around the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market. Within the market, the data statistically located the earliest human cases to one section where vendors of live wild animals congregated and where virus-positive environmental samples concentrated. In a related report, Pekar et al. found that genomic diversity before February 2020 comprised two distinct viral lineages, A and B, which were the result of at least two separate cross-species transmission events into humans (see the Perspective by Jiang and Wang). The precise events surrounding virus spillover will always be clouded, but
all of the circumstantial evidence so far points to more than one zoonotic event occurring in Huanan market in Wuhan, China, likely during November–December 2019. —CA
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From your link-
"We also lack direct evidence of an intermediate animal infected with a SARS-CoV-2 progenitor virus..."
Translation: They never found a raccoon dog, civet, bat, or any animal at the market (or upstream) with SARS-CoV-2.
No live animals tested.
No dead animals tested.
No serological evidence.
No viral isolates from animals.
They have environmental RNA (virus traces on cages, floors, drains), but that could easily be from infected humans shedding virus after the outbreak started.
→ This is NOT proof of animal origin. It’s proof the virus was present — not where it came from.
From your link-
"no line list of early COVID-19 cases is available..."
China never released full patient data.
No names, no exact addresses, no contact tracing logs.
They’re using Weibo posts, WHO summaries, and approximate locations — some with 1–2 km error bars.
This is like solving a murder with a blurry CCTV still and half the witnesses missing.
Patient Zero? They don’t even touch it.
Huang et al. (2020) and Chinese state media (Dec 2019) reported the first known case was a person with no market exposure, onset Dec 1, 2019 — and worked at the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV).
Other early cases (e.g., Wei Guixian, seafood seller) were later, and many had no direct market link.
The paper excludes or downplays cases not fitting the market cluster.
They built a map, then erased the dots that didn’t fit.
Environmental samples? Contaminated crime scene.Samples taken Jan 1–12, 2020 — weeks after human-to-human spread was raging.
Market was closed, cleaned, flooded with disinfectant, and full of infected people.
Positive stalls had seafood, poultry, dry goods — not just wildlife.
Finding virus RNA in a crowded market during an outbreak is like finding cocaine in a nightclub bathroom — expected, not evidence of the source.
From your link-
The market was the epicenter."
what they mean: "The virus was spreading there in December — and we really want it to be from animals."
That’s a hypothesis, not proof.
To sum up:
No animal with COVID found
Virus in market, but source unknown
No full case data
Ignores lab-linked early cases
You are posting a flawed study trying to pass it off as evidence when it clearly says circumstantial evidence 
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