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Reply #135 - Nov 25th, 2025 at 4:47am
 
Nature has a paper but $ to access.

Science has a paper:
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Pandemic epicenter


As 2019 turned into 2020, a coronavirus spilled over from wild animals into people, sparking what has become one of the best documented pandemics to afflict humans. However, the origins of the pandemic in December 2019 are controversial. Worobey et al. amassed the variety of evidence from the City of Wuhan, China, where the first human infections were reported. These reports confirm that most of the earliest human cases centered around the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market. Within the market, the data statistically located the earliest human cases to one section where vendors of live wild animals congregated and where virus-positive environmental samples concentrated. In a related report, Pekar et al. found that genomic diversity before February 2020 comprised two distinct viral lineages, A and B, which were the result of at least two separate cross-species transmission events into humans (see the Perspective by Jiang and Wang). The precise events surrounding virus spillover will always be clouded, but all of the circumstantial evidence so far points to more than one zoonotic event occurring in Huanan market in Wuhan, China, likely during November–December 2019. —CA


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Understanding how severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) emerged in 2019 is critical to preventing future zoonotic outbreaks before they become the next pandemic. The Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market in Wuhan, China, was identified as a likely source of cases in early reports, but later this conclusion became controversial. We show here that the earliest known COVID-19 cases from December 2019, including those without reported direct links, were geographically centered on this market. We report that live SARS-CoV-2–susceptible mammals were sold at the market in late 2019 and that within the market, SARS-CoV-2–positive environmental samples were spatially associated with vendors selling live mammals. Although there is insufficient evidence to define upstream events, and exact circumstances remain obscure, our analyses indicate that the emergence of SARS-CoV-2 occurred through the live wildlife trade in China and show that the Huanan market was the epicenter of the COVID-19 pandemic.


https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abp8715

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On the Controversies Surrounding the Lab-Leak Theory of COVID-19
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PMCID: PMC12040609  PMID: 40296830
In April 2025, the White House of the United States officially declared on its website that COVID-19 originated from a laboratory in Wuhan, China.1 This announcement has sparked significant controversy, as it may be seen as a case where political considerations have influenced, or at least appeared to influence, the interpretation of scientific matters.

The origin of COVID-19 remains a topic of vigorous scientific debate. The most widely supported theory is the natural spillover hypothesis, which posits that the virus was transmitted to humans through a process of accumulated mutations while circulating among animals. This theory is backed by numerous genomic analyses and evolutionary biology studies that support the natural emergence of SARS-CoV-2,2,3,4,5 with concrete evidence showing adaptation processes through recombination events among various hosts such as bats and pangolins.


https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12040609/


BMJ:
https://www.bmj.com/content/386/bmj.q1578

Article argues that there is no possibility of the origin of covid 19 ever being decided.


So much for the crap from the high school dropout.
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Reply #136 - Nov 26th, 2025 at 4:00pm
 
Monk's fascination for probing.
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Reply #137 - Nov 26th, 2025 at 4:09pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 25th, 2025 at 4:47am:
Re the “lab leak” theory:
[quote]On the Controversies Surrounding the Lab-Leak Theory of COVID-19
Jin-Hong Yoo 1,✉
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PMCID: PMC12040609  PMID: 40296830
In April 2025, the White House of the United States officially declared on its website that COVID-19 originated from a laboratory in Wuhan, China.1


Patient Zero for Covid worked in Wuhan lab which is a fact the stupid Mong ignores.

Robert Redfield a Virologist and former head of the CDC has said Lab Leak from day 1.
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Reply #138 - Yesterday at 11:32pm
 
Patient zero?

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The latest major revelation in this line emerged this week. Taken at face value, it’s extraordinary: Ben Hu, a high-level researcher at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, and two colleagues, Yu Ping and Zhu Yan, could have been the first people on the planet to be infected with SARS-CoV-2, according to anonymous sources cited first in the newsletter Public and then in The Wall Street Journal. These proposed patient SARS-CoV-zeros aren’t merely employees of the virology institute; they’re central figures in the very sort of research that lab-leak investigators have been scrutinizing since the start of the pandemic. Their names appear on crucial papers related to the discovery of new, SARS-related coronaviruses in bats, and subsequent experimentation on those viruses.

Is this the “smoking gun,” at last, as many now insist? Has the Case of the Missing COVID Origin finally been solved? Hu and Yu each denied the allegations in emails to Science, saying they did not get sick in autumn 2019. “My colleagues and I tested for SARS-CoV-2 antibody in early March 2020 and we were all negative,” Hu wrote. But those denials notwithstanding, if these researchers did turn out to be the very first infected people, then their professional activities would mean they almost certainly caught the virus in the lab, not a market stall full of marmots and raccoon dogs. The origins debate has from the start revolved around a pair of dueling “coincidences.” The fact that the pandemic just happened to take off at a wet market suggests that the virus spilled over into humans from animals for sale there. But the fact that it also just happened to take off not too far away from one of the world’s leading bat-coronavirus labs suggests the opposite. This week’s information seems to tip the balance very heavily toward the latter interpretation.

The only problem is, we don’t know whether the latest revelations can be trusted, or to what extent. The newly reported facts appear to stem from a single item of intelligence, furnished by a foreign source, that has bounced around inside the U.S. government since sometime in 2020. Over the past two and a half years, the full description of the sickened workers in Wuhan has been revealed with excruciating slowness, in sedimenting clauses, through well-timed leaks. This glacial striptease has finally reached its end, but is the underlying information even true? Until that question can be answered (which could be never), the origins debate will be stuck exactly where it’s been for many months: always moving forward, never quite arriving.

The story of these sickened workers has been in the public domain, one way or another, since the start of 2021. Officials in the Trump administration’s State Department, reportedly determined to go public with their findings, put out a fact sheet about various events and circumstances at the Wuhan Institute of Virology around the beginning of the pandemic. Included was a quick description of alleged illnesses among the staff. The fact sheet didn’t name the sickened scientists or what they did inside the lab, or when exactly their illnesses occurred. It didn’t specify their symptoms, nor did it say how many scientists had gotten sick.


https://www.unmc.edu/healthsecurity/transmission/2023/08/01/has-covids-patient-z...

Sounds very much like hogwash.
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