Dnarever wrote on Oct 17
th, 2025 at 11:48am:
Karnal wrote on Oct 15
th, 2025 at 10:53pm:
Dnarever wrote on Oct 15
th, 2025 at 5:57pm:
Why would Albo want to get Trumps attention. Better off to just wait till he goes away there is nothing to gain.
Getting the attention of a lunatic is just dangerous.
Agreed. Why would Albo want to bother with AUKUS?
The plates have shifted. The US is now in freefall. The West can't expect to wait this administration out anymore. By the time Trump's done, it'll be too late.
Australia's always been the pragmatic middle power. It may well be better to go all the way with Chairman Xi.
China, our largest importer, has the long game in mind. It's busily constructing a global hegemon.
Trump and his sycophants are destroying one. Sheesh, if our friends in Vanuatu and Papua New Guinea can work this out, why can't our blinkered public service, DFAT and security officials in Canberra?
Keating has. Perhaps, and I hate to say this, we're better allied to China than America. At the very least, we can't fund a twenty year nuclear sub plan in the current global climate. The US may turn out to be
more militaristic and authoritarian than China.
I never liked the idea of nukes anyway. Australia might be better off putting AUKUS aside until the Dems get in. God knows the rest of our allies are biding their time, waiting for Trump to go.
And for those like Starmer who try to use Trump as a trade opportunity, the loss of political capital will probably do him in. Not only will Donnie inevitably shaft Stier, it will be a brutal, public humiliation that will undo him in the end.
Albo is better off staying away. AUKUS should wait until there's a US you can deal with. I'm sure many in his cabinet and office are advising just that.
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Quote:Why would Albo want to bother with AUKUS?
Talking to Trump is more likely to put AUKUS under threat. Staying quiet is the best protection.
Just so. As the newly indicted CRIMINAL John Bolton has pointed out, the big fella's way of handling foreign policy comes down to one thing only:
What have you got for me?
A bit of Bitcoin, some real estate or cold, hard cash. He's not adverse to the odd award either. A knighthood, an honorary doctorate, a Nobel peace prize.
Of course, DL doesn't spend too much time on the details. He's never considered actually
studying for a doctorate or
trying to achieve peace. He's always been far too busy making or losing money to bother with that.
No, instead, DL expects these things to be given to him. And if they aren't, watch out. He's just ordered Pam to dig up something on the chair of the Nobel Committee. He's also planning an additional tariff on Norway. And if he really gets mad, it's possible that we'll see Norwegian North Sea oil rigs torpedoed, like all those Colombian fishing boats he keeps blowing up in the Caribbean.
Imagine, details like these once sounded made-up. Today, nobody questions them. Everybody knows what the big fella's like.
Unfortunately for Albo, the big fella has no interest in previous administrations' submarine contracts, the security of close US allies like Australia or whether Chi-na takes over the Pacific. He can't be bothered with all that. If Fox ran the story, he'd flick over to CNN.
What he does care about is becoming the world's richest prez. Albo needs to play it smart. Think big, as they say. Don't talk about honoring US deals, the spirit of ANZUS, securing the Pacific or any of that foreign policy virtue signalling. DL likes golf clubs, right?
Pitch him a golf course down in Oz. Don't even bother talking subs, just cut right to it.
Here you go, sir. What we have, for a very limited time only, is this hot new golf course we're prepared to make you the sole proprietor of. Yes, it's currently a
public course, but it'll come with all the right approvals for a luxury, high-class resort. You can wall it off, make it elites-only and have all your friends come and play. Quality people, no sh
itholes. No one with a net worth less than a bil.
When Albo's done, DL will sign on the dotted line, believe me. By the time he's twigged that Albo's given him a patch of dirt next to the Cooper Pedy runway, our subs will be ready to go.
Not many of our Trump-supporting friends say this, Dnarever, but I think it's the way to go:
We will make Australia great again, no?