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Re: The whole Charlie Kirk circus is ridiculous now
Reply #30 - Oct 17^th, 2025 at 1:19pm

Frank wrote on Oct 17^th, 2025 at 7:19am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Oct 17^th, 2025 at 6:22am:

Frank wrote on Oct 16^th, 2025 at 2:39pm:

You are allowed to reject Trump for yourself, intellectual teapot. You just can't keep on doing it in every post. Nor can you do it for other people. Otherwise you're being authoritarian and dictatorial. Not unusual for you, of course but still not acceptable. If you must criticise Trump you must do it from a position of knowledge, not as you do, from ignorance. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 53312 Gender:	Re: The whole Charlie Kirk circus is ridiculous now Reply #31 - Oct 17^th, 2025 at 9:31pm Can the lefty mongs articulate what exactly is so awful about Kirk? I am not asking for the mindlessly lefty shibbolets, so please don't give us the reflex wacism/sexism/pfsthstism bollocks.
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Re: The whole Charlie Kirk circus is ridiculous now
Reply #33 - Oct 17^th, 2025 at 9:58pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17^th, 2025 at 9:35pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 17^th, 2025 at 9:31pm:

Can the lefty mongs articulate what exactly is so awful about Kirk?

Nothing, now.

This is why you are the poster crusty keyboard boy for the despicable, disgusting lefty phalanx, creep. You simply deal yourselves out of civilisation, as your starting point.

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Re: The whole Charlie Kirk circus is ridiculous now
Reply #34 - Oct 17^th, 2025 at 10:00pm

Frank wrote on Oct 17^th, 2025 at 9:58pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17^th, 2025 at 9:35pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 17^th, 2025 at 9:31pm:

Can the lefty mongs articulate what exactly is so awful about Kirk?

Nothing, now.

This is why you are the poster crusty keyboard boy for the despicable, disgusting lefty phalanx, creep. You simply deal yourselves out of civilisation, as your starting point.

I've told you there's nothing wrong with him, and still you get upset.

Why so sad, Frannie?

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Re: The whole Charlie Kirk circus is ridiculous now
Reply #35 - Oct 17^th, 2025 at 10:20pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17^th, 2025 at 10:00pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 17^th, 2025 at 9:58pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17^th, 2025 at 9:35pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 17^th, 2025 at 9:31pm:

Can the lefty mongs articulate what exactly is so awful about Kirk?

Nothing, now.

This is why you are the poster crusty keyboard boy for the despicable, disgusting lefty phalanx, creep. You simply deal yourselves out of civilisation, as your starting point.

I've told you there's nothing wrong with him, and still you get upset.

Why so sad, Frannie?

You are a despicable, disgusting creep.

Nothing wrong with him now, you said, you evil creep, now that he's assassinated by someone who thinks and acts like you.

I need to go and wash my hands after this encounter with you, you dirty, disgusting evil creep.

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 60425 Here Gender:	Re: The whole Charlie Kirk circus is ridiculous now Reply #36 - Oct 17^th, 2025 at 10:21pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17^th, 2025 at 9:35pm: Frank wrote on Oct 17^th, 2025 at 9:31pm: Can the lefty mongs articulate what exactly is so awful about Kirk? Nothing, now. He has been perfectly reasonable for a few months now.
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Re: The whole Charlie Kirk circus is ridiculous now
Reply #37 - Oct 17^th, 2025 at 10:26pm

Frank wrote on Oct 17^th, 2025 at 10:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17^th, 2025 at 10:00pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 17^th, 2025 at 9:58pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17^th, 2025 at 9:35pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 17^th, 2025 at 9:31pm:

Can the lefty mongs articulate what exactly is so awful about Kirk?

Nothing, now.

This is why you are the poster crusty keyboard boy for the despicable, disgusting lefty phalanx, creep. You simply deal yourselves out of civilisation, as your starting point.

I've told you there's nothing wrong with him, and still you get upset.

Why so sad, Frannie?

You are a despicable, disgusting creep.

Nothing wrong with him now, you said, ...

Yes.

That's the time we live in - now.

The here and the now.

There's nothing wrong with him now - why does that trigger you so?

Do you want me to say he's a horrible corpse?

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Re: The whole Charlie Kirk circus is ridiculous now
Reply #38 - Oct 18^th, 2025 at 7:00am

Frank wrote on Oct 17^th, 2025 at 9:31pm:

Can the lefty mongs articulate what exactly is so awful about Kirk?

We did, you just keep ignoring it.

We showed you video proof of the things he said that were racist, sexist or bigoted towards LGBTQ+ people.

You just dismiss it and say things like,

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I am not asking for the mindlessly lefty shibbolets, so please don't give us the reflex wacism/sexism/pfsthstism bollocks.

Same with others here, they demanded to know what hateful things Kirk said, but then acted as the judges of what was hateful. Since they agreed with what he said, they didn't find it hateful, so they dismissed the claim.

Kirk made comments about the brain power of black women being too low to achieve anything without being gifted a position in education that were stolen from white people. He goes on to extend that logic to claim that a black pilot or surgeon would have their qualification questioned because he doesn't think they're capable of attaining that on their own, based on their race.

That is racism.

But I expect you see it differently?

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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 53312 Gender:	Re: The whole Charlie Kirk circus is ridiculous now Reply #39 - Oct 18^th, 2025 at 9:01am I do not trust your tendentious, idiotic, gotcha videos, teapot. I am asking for quotes, with links so I can check for myself what he actually said, in what context. You TDS mongs are notoriously dishonest, twist and misrepresent your political opponents at every opportunity.
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Re: The whole Charlie Kirk circus is ridiculous now
Reply #40 - Oct 18^th, 2025 at 1:24pm

Frank wrote on Oct 18^th, 2025 at 9:01am:

I do not trust your tendentious, idiotic, gotcha videos, teapot. I am asking for quotes, with links so I can check for myself what he actually said, in what context.

You TDS mongs are notoriously dishonest, twist and misrepresent your political opponents at every opportunity.

You were handed the exact quotes upfront, then the videos were added for broader context.

But it doesn't matter what anyone provides, you'll dismiss the lot, this time hiding behind the excuse that you "can't trust the poster"?

You don't even bother engaging with it, because you've already carved yourself an escape hatch.

And to really drive your capitulation home, you round it out by attacking the person who handed you the evidence you asked for, completing your full and unconditional surrender.

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Re: The whole Charlie Kirk circus is ridiculous now
Reply #41 - Oct 18^th, 2025 at 2:46pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Oct 18^th, 2025 at 7:00am:

Frank wrote on Oct 17^th, 2025 at 9:31pm:

Can the lefty mongs articulate what exactly is so awful about Kirk?

We did, you just keep ignoring it.

We showed you video proof of the things he said that were racist, sexist or bigoted towards LGBTQ+ people.

You just dismiss it and say things like,

Quote:

I am not asking for the mindlessly lefty shibbolets, so please don't give us the reflex wacism/sexism/pfsthstism bollocks.

Same with others here, they demanded to know what hateful things Kirk said, but then acted as the judges of what was hateful. Since they agreed with what he said, they didn't find it hateful, so they dismissed the claim.

Kirk made comments about (1)the brain power of black women being too low to achieve anything without being gifted a position in education that were stolen from white people. He goes on to extend that logic to claim that a (2)black pilot or surgeon would have their qualification questioned because he doesn't think they're capable of attaining that on their own, based on their race.

That is racism.

But I expect you see it differently?

(1) You are a liar.

(2) You are a liar

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Re: The whole Charlie Kirk circus is ridiculous now
Reply #42 - Oct 18^th, 2025 at 3:11pm

Correct, Proud Teapot is a liar. Embarrassed

The claim that Kirk said this of all Black women circulated on social media, including a September 10, 2025 Bluesky post (archived here) where it was published by the karenattiah account with no comment or explanation.

Here's what that post looked like at the time this fact check was written:

What Kirk said, starting about 53 minutes into his July 13, 2023 show (archived here), was this, two weeks after the Supreme Court ended affirmative action in college and university admissions:

If we would have said three weeks ago [...] that Joy Reid and Michelle Obama and Sheila Jackson Lee and Ketanji Brown Jackson were affirmative-action picks, we would have been called racist. But now they're comin' out and they're saying it for us! They're comin' out and they're saying, "I'm only here because of affirmative action.

Yeah, we know. You do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person's slot to go be taken somewhat seriously.

Kirk followed that with video of Rep. Shirley Jackson Lee, D-Texas saying:

I rise today as a clear recipient of affirmative action, particularly in higher education. I may have been admitted on affirmative action, both in terms of being a woman and a woman of color, but I can declare that I did not graduate on affirmative action.

Kirk commented on Lee's pronunciation and on her argument in favor of affirmative action and then played a cut of TV host Joy Reid discussing concerns about racism on Twitter in which she said Threads was gaining on Twitter:

Twitter now is useless to me. If people like me are leaving, I don't know how Twitter survives.

Kirk mocked Reid's argument, saying "If people like me that are where we are because of affirmative action, how could they survive? ... This is how arrogant Joy Reid and Ketanji Brown Jackson and Michelle Obama and Sheila Jackson Lee are. They're so narcissistic they think this is persuasive."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/fact-check-charlie-kirk-quote-082017036.html

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Re: The whole Charlie Kirk circus is ridiculous now
Reply #43 - Oct 18^th, 2025 at 3:19pm

Leroy wrote on Oct 18^th, 2025 at 2:46pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Oct 18^th, 2025 at 7:00am:

Kirk made comments about (1)the brain power of black women being too low to achieve anything without being gifted a position in education that were stolen from white people. He goes on to extend that logic to claim that a (2)black pilot or surgeon would have their qualification questioned because he doesn't think they're capable of attaining that on their own, based on their race.

That is racism.

But I expect you see it differently?

(1) You are a liar.

(2) You are a liar

Yes, she/ze/they is a liar. A tendentious liar, deliberately misrepresenting Kirk.

The full context of the quote was as follows (beginning at 50:19):

KOLVET: We've all been in the back of a plane when the turbulence hits or when you're flying through a storm and you're like, "I'm so glad I saw the guy with the right stuff and the square jaw get into the cockpit before we took off. And I feel better now, thinking about that."

KIRK: You wanna go thought crime? I'm sorry. If I see a Black pilot, I'm gonna be like, "Boy, I hope he's qualified."

KOLVET: But you wouldn't have done that before!

KIRK: That's not an immediate … that's not who I am. That's not what I believe.

NEFF: It is the reality the left has created.

KIRK: I want to be as blunt as possible because now I'm connecting two dots. Wait a second, this CEO just said that he's forcing that a white qualified guy is not gonna get the job. So I see this guy, he might be a nice person and I say, "Boy, I hope he's not a Harvard-style affirmative-action student that … landed half of his flight-simulator trials."

KOLVET: Such a good point. That's so fair.

KIRK: It also … creates unhealthy thinking patterns. I don't wanna think that way. And no one should, right? … And by the way, then you couple it with the FAA, air-traffic control, they got a bunch of morons and affirmative-action people.

The topic came up after a 2021 Axios interview with United Airlines CEO Scott Kirby talking about diversity in United's pilot training program recirculated in conservative circles following revelations of a December 2022 midflight incident in which a jet lost altitude shortly after departure before the crew recovered, according to Reuters.

Kirk's comments received media coverage at the time from prominent outlets such as Newsweek, The Daily Beast, Rolling Stone, Business Insider and NBC News. On Jan. 26, 2024, Kirk responded to criticism on conservative pundit Megyn Kelly's podcast (at 3:00):

The essence of that clip that was missed by almost everybody — Jordan Peterson, to his credit, really picked up on it — which was I was trying to be, you know, very vulnerable with the audience is that DEI invites unwholesome thinking. … I was saying in the clip, "That's not who I am, that's not what I believe." But what it does is it makes us worse versions of ourselves, Megyn. That's the whole point of what I was saying is that I now look at everything through a hyper-racialized diversity-quota lens because of their massive insistence to try to hit these ridiculous racial hiring quotas. Of course I believe anybody of any skin color can become a qualified pilot.

Further, Kirk's YouTube channel posted a video on June 3, 2025, that featured Kirk answering a question at an event about the statement in question, posed by a Black attendee who asked if he felt his earlier comments about DEI pilots

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Re: The whole Charlie Kirk circus is ridiculous now
Reply #44 - Oct 18^th, 2025 at 3:20pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Oct 18^th, 2025 at 7:00am:

Frank wrote on Oct 17^th, 2025 at 9:31pm:

Can the lefty mongs articulate what exactly is so awful about Kirk?

We did, you just keep ignoring it.

We showed you video proof of the things he said that were racist, sexist or bigoted towards LGBTQ+ people.

You just dismiss it and say things like,

Quote:

I am not asking for the mindlessly lefty shibbolets, so please don't give us the reflex wacism/sexism/pfsthstism bollocks.

Same with others here, they demanded to know what hateful things Kirk said, but then acted as the judges of what was hateful. Since they agreed with what he said, they didn't find it hateful, so they dismissed the claim.

Kirk made comments about the brain power of black women being too low to achieve anything without being gifted a position in education that were stolen from white people. He goes on to extend that logic to claim that a black pilot or surgeon would have their qualification questioned because he doesn't think they're capable of attaining that on their own, based on their race.

That is racism.

But I expect you see it differently?

Exactly!

Racism 101.

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