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Re: The whole Charlie Kirk circus is ridiculous now
Reply #105 - Yesterday at 8:33pm
 
Frank wrote Yesterday at 8:13pm:
Ten rupee?

A banana? Have two.



There you go, Greggery.

Now he's gone.
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Reply #106 - Yesterday at 9:31pm
 
Karnal wrote Yesterday at 8:18pm:
Frank wrote Yesterday at 7:58pm:
Nothing is rewritten, grimacing arse bandit.


What exactly is the point of Bidden's EO?

To hire blacks, gays, trannies, women etc who could not simply be hired on merit alone.

On merit alone.

So d it out, paki, commit it to memory. The entire point of DEI is to erase those three little words.

On merit alone. So wacist, sexist, islamophobe, white supremacist,  transphobe, arsebanditphobe, sextouristphobe, [yourmiffhere]phobe.



I see. So when you posted this as an example of a US government policy that ensured a certain number of black people must be hired, you were really posting it as an example of a policy that doesn't include the word "merit."

Thanks, old chap. We'll lock this one in, shall we?

DEI is a thumb on the scale of merit and competence. There is no other purpose or function to it.

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Reply #107 - Today at 6:27am
 
Frank wrote Yesterday at 7:42pm:
Well, it IS the

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What do you mean by "paki"?
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Re: The whole Charlie Kirk circus is ridiculous now
Reply #108 - Today at 6:37am
 
Frank wrote Yesterday at 5:33pm:
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That framing is dishonest from the start because it pretends that DEI = "hiring unqualified people because of race or sex." That's not what DEI is, that's just the caricature racists use to attack it, or as a shield for their vile rhetoric.

DEI doesn't tell anyone to ignore competence, it pushes equal access to opportunity and addresses historical gatekeeping that kept qualified people out before they were even allowed to compete.

The only way Kirk's argument works is if you start from the assumption that Black people or women only succeed because of lowered standards. He's not critiquing a system, he's presuming incompetence based on identity. That's why it's racist.

If DEI meant "hire unqualified people," then point to an actual policy that says that. You won't find one. What you'll find are racists who see a Black doctor and immediately assume charity hire.

That's not a critique of hiring practices, that's a confession of their own prejudice.

Of Kirk and you.


A load of muddled, tendentious bollocks, teapot. Rubbish.


You're doing exactly what I said you would, Frank. You dismiss anything that challenges your view, you don't engage, you deflect, and when cornered, you resort to insult.

If your position could stand on its own two feet, you'd defend it with reason instead of hiding behind mockery.

But you don't.

Why?

Because this is what it's like trying to talk to you:


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Re: The whole Charlie Kirk circus is ridiculous now
Reply #109 - Today at 7:20am
 
ProudKangaroo wrote Today at 6:27am:
Frank wrote Yesterday at 7:42pm:
Well, it IS the

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What do you mean by "paki"?



I mean 'diversity is our strength'.
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Reply #110 - Today at 8:15am
 
ProudKangaroo wrote Today at 6:37am:
Frank wrote Yesterday at 5:33pm:
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That framing is dishonest from the start because it pretends that DEI = "hiring unqualified people because of race or sex." That's not what DEI is, that's just the caricature racists use to attack it, or as a shield for their vile rhetoric.

DEI doesn't tell anyone to ignore competence, it pushes equal access to opportunity and addresses historical gatekeeping that kept qualified people out before they were even allowed to compete.

The only way Kirk's argument works is if you start from the assumption that Black people or women only succeed because of lowered standards. He's not critiquing a system, he's presuming incompetence based on identity. That's why it's racist.

If DEI meant "hire unqualified people," then point to an actual policy that says that. You won't find one. What you'll find are racists who see a Black doctor and immediately assume charity hire.

That's not a critique of hiring practices, that's a confession of their own prejudice.

Of Kirk and you.


A load of muddled, tendentious bollocks, teapot. Rubbish.


You're doing exactly what I said you would, Frank. You dismiss anything that challenges your view, you don't engage, you deflect, and when cornered, you resort to insult.

If your position could stand on its own two feet, you'd defend it with reason instead of hiding behind mockery.

But you don't.

Why?

Because this is what it's like trying to talk to you:






Bwian said in the discussion on Islam.
And I quote

" it is inappropriate to criticise Muslims because they are not yet at a stage where they can take criticism on board.
All that such criticism does is cause pain and isolation and victimised them "

End of quote.

So as a leftie. If MAGA  are not yet in a stage to accept criticism, you should NOT  be criticising them.
All you are doing is causing polarisation and angst.

You should be trying to integrate MAGA  and you should be calling out all critics as reprehensible
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Re: The whole Charlie Kirk circus is ridiculous now
Reply #111 - Today at 9:07am
 
ProudKangaroo wrote Today at 6:37am:
Frank wrote Yesterday at 5:33pm:
Quote:
That framing is dishonest from the start because it pretends that DEI = "hiring unqualified people because of race or sex." That's not what DEI is, that's just the caricature racists use to attack it, or as a shield for their vile rhetoric.

DEI doesn't tell anyone to ignore competence, it pushes equal access to opportunity and addresses historical gatekeeping that kept qualified people out before they were even allowed to compete.

The only way Kirk's argument works is if you start from the assumption that Black people or women only succeed because of lowered standards. He's not critiquing a system, he's presuming incompetence based on identity. That's why it's racist.

If DEI meant "hire unqualified people," then point to an actual policy that says that. You won't find one. What you'll find are racists who see a Black doctor and immediately assume charity hire.

That's not a critique of hiring practices, that's a confession of their own prejudice.

Of Kirk and you.


A load of muddled, tendentious bollocks, teapot. Rubbish.


You're doing exactly what I said you would, Frank. You dismiss anything that challenges your view, you don't engage, you deflect, and when cornered, you resort to insult.

If your position could stand on its own two feet, you'd defend it with reason instead of hiding behind mockery.

But you don't.

Why?

Because this is what it's like trying to talk to you:




Lol   Grin

That's our Frank.
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Re: The whole Charlie Kirk circus is ridiculous now
Reply #112 - Today at 11:37am
 
Frank wrote Today at 7:20am:
ProudKangaroo wrote Today at 6:27am:
Frank wrote Yesterday at 7:42pm:
Well, it IS the

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Grimacing, tap-dancing paki and slanderous, despicable creep show!





What do you mean by "paki"?



I mean 'diversity is our strength'.


Be honest Frank, what does "paki" mean when you're using it to attack people?
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Reply #113 - Today at 1:47pm
 
aquascoot wrote Today at 8:15am:
ProudKangaroo wrote Today at 6:37am:
Frank wrote Yesterday at 5:33pm:
Quote:
That framing is dishonest from the start because it pretends that DEI = "hiring unqualified people because of race or sex." That's not what DEI is, that's just the caricature racists use to attack it, or as a shield for their vile rhetoric.

DEI doesn't tell anyone to ignore competence, it pushes equal access to opportunity and addresses historical gatekeeping that kept qualified people out before they were even allowed to compete.

The only way Kirk's argument works is if you start from the assumption that Black people or women only succeed because of lowered standards. He's not critiquing a system, he's presuming incompetence based on identity. That's why it's racist.

If DEI meant "hire unqualified people," then point to an actual policy that says that. You won't find one. What you'll find are racists who see a Black doctor and immediately assume charity hire.

That's not a critique of hiring practices, that's a confession of their own prejudice.

Of Kirk and you.


A load of muddled, tendentious bollocks, teapot. Rubbish.


You're doing exactly what I said you would, Frank. You dismiss anything that challenges your view, you don't engage, you deflect, and when cornered, you resort to insult.

If your position could stand on its own two feet, you'd defend it with reason instead of hiding behind mockery.

But you don't.

Why?

Because this is what it's like trying to talk to you:






Bwian said in the discussion on Islam.
And I quote

" it is inappropriate to criticise Muslims because they are not yet at a stage where they can take criticism on board.
All that such criticism does is cause pain and isolation and victimised them "

End of quote.

So as a leftie. If MAGA  are not yet in a stage to accept criticism, you should NOT  be criticising them.
All you are doing is causing polarisation and angst.

You should be trying to integrate MAGA  and you should be calling out all critics as reprehensible


I see. So you're saying if Leroy says DEI policies mandated employers to hire 50% black people, we should agree.

If the old boy posts a Biden EO to prove it, we should never read it to see.

The problem with your proposal, dear, is Leroy and Frank are lying. They're doing so to usher in a fascist takeover. The big lie, as it were.

They know none of us want fascism, so they have to tell fibs to virtue signal.

You know the score yourself. When trying to convince us of the "noble dictator", you praised one Vlad Putin. We should have him rule us, you said. He's "a grand chess master, concert pianist, champion equestrian, ace fighter pilot, best-selling historian and great fun to have at parties'".

End of quote.

The chodes like a bit of bullshitartistry, you said. You think it's a smart move.

Thanks for busting the scam wide open, Aquascoot.
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