Karnal
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Leroy wrote on Oct 20 th, 2025 at 6:58pm: Karnal wrote on Oct 20 th, 2025 at 5:54pm: Leroy wrote on Oct 20 th, 2025 at 5:46pm: ProudKangaroo wrote on Oct 20 th, 2025 at 5:14pm: Frank wrote on Oct 20 th, 2025 at 5:08pm: ProudKangaroo wrote on Oct 20 th, 2025 at 4:59pm: Frank wrote on Oct 20 th, 2025 at 3:58pm: I have provided the full context of two of Kirk's supposedly wacist utterances.
Little teapot refuses to point out which bit was wacist, she/zi just bangs on and on, as if she/zi has not been proven a tendentious liar and distorted.
You keep pretending not to understand what makes it racist, so let me spell it out as clearly as I can, again. It's not "just a concern about DEI." It's the part where he explicitly questions the competence of Black professionals because they are Black, and then attributes their success to handouts rather than merit. He frames Black doctors and pilots as intellectually inferior, incapable of earning their position without lowered standards, and claims that white people were displaced because of it. That is textbook racism. He is assigning lower intelligence and ability to an entire race, and pushing a lie that DEI means replacing qualified white people with unqualified Black people. DEI does not lower standards, that narrative is a deliberate falsehood used as a shield to justify bigotry. It's a convenient excuse to dress up racism as "concern." You don't see it that way because you use it as a shield too. If ANYONE is hired because of his race or sex, not his competence for the task, that is DEI and that is wacist and sexist. Which is Kirk's point. ) That framing is dishonest from the start because it pretends that DEI = "hiring unqualified people because of race or sex." That's not what DEI is, that's just the caricature racists use to attack it, or as a shield for their vile rhetoric. DEI doesn't tell anyone to ignore competence, it pushes equal access to opportunity and addresses historical gatekeeping that kept qualified people out before they were even allowed to compete. The only way Kirk's argument works is if you start from the assumption that Black people or women only succeed because of lowered standards. He's not critiquing a system, he's presuming incompetence based on identity. That's why it's racist. If DEI meant "hire unqualified people," then point to an actual policy that says that. You won't find one. What you'll find are racists who see a Black doctor and immediately assume charity hire. That's not a critique of hiring practices, that's a confession of their own prejudice. Of Kirk and you. I think its more about you just not understanding what he said. Kirk has no problem with black people being hired, his point is if you have a policy that insists that a certain amount of people are hired due to being black then that is racist.
The other point he made is if you have a policy that ensures a certain amount of black people must be hired then those black people that are deserving of placement will always be have a cloud over them because they are in a system that ensures black people must be employed and not on competence and merit. Thanks, Leroy. Now, can you point to one policy in the entire US government that has ever ensured a certain number of black people must be hired? Cheers. I can never take you serious for two reasons, first one is any debate with you always attracts that resident diick greg. When he comes in wiping his own feces all over the thread. Second reason is your inablity to comprehend the written words, or maybe its my amalgamation of words that flummoxes you. Read my post again and see if you can spot your mistakes. I seriously doubt you will understand this post. I see. Don't want to say, eh? Strange. FD used to play the same trick with his words too. He loved having people read them out. It was all a bit of fun. Re-read my words, Bwian, FD would say. I'm not re-reading your words until you re-read mine, Brian would say. So FD would whack him in the Spineless Apologists' thread as punishment. We had some good times, Leroy.
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