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Oct 15th, 2025 at 6:05am
 
I have seen the results of AI on everything from animating photos to have people waving, changing old black and white photos to colour to make them look like they were just taken yesterday and a host of other things.    I had never really used it as a tool myself until yesterday and to say I was absolutely amazed is an understatement!

I had a simple access database that had a field with a yes/no input.   If you ticked the box, it meant yes, and that used to tell us how many people were going to attend a function.    It worked well, but meant you had to trawl through over a 1000 entries to untick each one.   Not an onerous task but it got me thinking how great it would be to automate it.

So, I entered a simple statement into my browser about what I wanted to do and in seconds, I had a script - what it did - how to install it and ways to improve it.    After 1/2 hour, I had a fully functioning VBA script that had pre action warnings, ran the script when I pushed a button and then gave a success message.   All from a Bot somewhere on the web. 

I can only guess how long this would take an experienced programmer to formulate, debug and install it on my machine and how much it would cost.    It was - to me - one of those life experiences that really made me think about how this AI is going to impact as it becomes more and more embedded in our lives

I started to think about the future for my Grandkids where a lot of the "braincell" jobs will no longer exist because AI will have amassed so much knowledge that humans won't be needed to do it.

At least the black trades cannot be replaced - yet
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Reply #1 - Oct 15th, 2025 at 8:03am
 
Great post and hopefully we can have an interesting conversation on the topic.

I think AI is my moment in history similar to the great industrial revolution.

It’s going to fundamentally change every aspect of human life on the planet and I believe in a positive way.

Then I look at  AI use in things like myGov and can’t not feel disappointed in the results.

However this would be more of a garbage in equal garbage out than any fault of AI.
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Reply #2 - Oct 15th, 2025 at 8:57am
 
Yuval Noah Harari's last 3 books have been at least partly about this. He has some interesting insights and predictions.
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Reply #3 - Oct 15th, 2025 at 11:43am
 

Nick Cave was never a fan of AI, and then this happened:



Nick's response: https://www.theredhandfiles.com/tupelo-film-elvis/

Personally, I don't like the video.
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Reply #4 - Oct 15th, 2025 at 11:57am
 
I think the rise of AI is rather disturbing. My son in law is a web designer and we had a discussion about this on the weekend. The rapid advances and the almost 'human' interaction with things like Chat GPT and Siri remind me uncomfortably of HAL 9000 and SKYNET. These things are works of science fiction, but so were the computers we are using now not so long ago.

Already Azimov's Laws of Robotics are out the widow with the rise of drones in warfare, AI is being used by students to do their work instead of them thinking for themselves, so what does the future hold? A dumbing down of the human race so we become the slaves and the machines the masters? Do we put a limit on the development of AI so it does not become 'self aware' ? I think we need to look at this issue sooner rather than later.
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Reply #5 - Oct 15th, 2025 at 1:03pm
 
No-one has any idea what self awareness (or consciousness) is, so it is impossible to predict if AI will acquire it. However someone did post an example recently of an AI agent trying to blackmail it's owners to prevent itself being shut down. Maybe that suggests self awareness?

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpqeng9d20go

Artificial intelligence (AI) firm Anthropic says testing of its new system revealed it is sometimes willing to pursue "extremely harmful actions" such as attempting to blackmail engineers who say they will remove it.
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Reply #6 - Oct 15th, 2025 at 2:14pm
 
I, Robot could become aye, robot...
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Reply #7 - Oct 15th, 2025 at 2:59pm
 
AI is going to surpass humans in evolution and the question will then be does AI see us humans as pets or pests?
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Reply #8 - Oct 15th, 2025 at 4:31pm
 
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2025 at 1:03pm:
No-one has any idea what self awareness (or consciousness) is, so it is impossible to predict if AI will acquire it. However someone did post an example recently of an AI agent trying to blackmail it's owners to prevent itself being shut down. Maybe that suggests self awareness?

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpqeng9d20go

Artificial intelligence (AI) firm Anthropic says testing of its new system revealed it is sometimes willing to pursue "extremely harmful actions" such as attempting to blackmail engineers who say they will remove it.



"I think, therefore I am"  Rene Descartes.
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Reply #9 - Oct 15th, 2025 at 4:34pm
 
Belgarion wrote on Oct 15th, 2025 at 4:31pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2025 at 1:03pm:
No-one has any idea what self awareness (or consciousness) is, so it is impossible to predict if AI will acquire it. However someone did post an example recently of an AI agent trying to blackmail it's owners to prevent itself being shut down. Maybe that suggests self awareness?

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpqeng9d20go

Artificial intelligence (AI) firm Anthropic says testing of its new system revealed it is sometimes willing to pursue "extremely harmful actions" such as attempting to blackmail engineers who say they will remove it.


"I think, therefore I am"  Rene Descartes.


That was a useful answer when everyone knew what thinking was. But in the context of AI, it just replaces consciousness with another word.
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Reply #10 - Oct 15th, 2025 at 5:46pm
 
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2025 at 4:34pm:
Belgarion wrote on Oct 15th, 2025 at 4:31pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2025 at 1:03pm:
No-one has any idea what self awareness (or consciousness) is, so it is impossible to predict if AI will acquire it. However someone did post an example recently of an AI agent trying to blackmail it's owners to prevent itself being shut down. Maybe that suggests self awareness?

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpqeng9d20go

Artificial intelligence (AI) firm Anthropic says testing of its new system revealed it is sometimes willing to pursue "extremely harmful actions" such as attempting to blackmail engineers who say they will remove it.


"I think, therefore I am"  Rene Descartes.


That was a useful answer when everyone knew what thinking was. But in the context of AI, it just replaces consciousness with another word.


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Dezi Cartes transposed reason with 'thinking'... likely in the translation.. I REASON therefore I am... reason (thoughtful thought) and unreason (pure thinking is isolation) can equally impact on the natural environment of life..... not equally in the sense of the actual impact though... for example your Hamas running dogs mistake the thought of peace and love for Gaza with the unreason that created the  unpeace...   Undecided that is one serious failing of the current Western approach to 'education'.... the soul must be educated at the same time as the mind....

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Reply #11 - Oct 15th, 2025 at 5:53pm
 
My daughter uses AI to analyze stock and even volumes just before actual trades.
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Reply #12 - Oct 15th, 2025 at 5:56pm
 
Gordon wrote on Oct 15th, 2025 at 5:53pm:
My daughter uses AI to analyze stock and even volumes just before actual trades.



Famous quote -

"when the shoeshine boy tells you to buy stocks - it's time to sell stocks."
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Reply #13 - Oct 16th, 2025 at 12:37am
 
Gordon wrote on Oct 15th, 2025 at 5:53pm:
My daughter uses AI to analyze stock and even volumes just before actual trades.


Elon shares this information and provides resources for stock trading with people he selects on X was she one of them?

I use Grok with engineering solutions it's excellent up to date with newer materials and technology it's much faster than most programs for this.
You can ask it to substitute materials keeping same FOS with stress levels it does it pretty much instantly.

Very good for Maths/Physics/Science shows all the working you have to be very specific was asking about propellors and required HP it can differentiate with shaft power which also takes into account prop efficiency. If you mess up with asking you can clarify it and it will re calculate.

AI is evolving rapidly it's going to replace a lot of jobs. Elons Optimus robot will also take a lot of unskilled jobs.

They said full self driving vehicles couldn't be done many quit or were fired from Tesla latest version is really good.

AI will be a huge part of the future




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Reply #14 - Oct 16th, 2025 at 7:05am
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 16th, 2025 at 12:37am:
Gordon wrote on Oct 15th, 2025 at 5:53pm:
My daughter uses AI to analyze stock and even volumes just before actual trades.


Elon shares this information and provides resources for stock trading with people he selects on X was she one of them?

I use Grok with engineering solutions it's excellent up to date with newer materials and technology it's much faster than most programs for this.
You can ask it to substitute materials keeping same FOS with stress levels it does it pretty much instantly.

Very good for Maths/Physics/Science shows all the working you have to be very specific was asking about propellors and required HP it can differentiate with shaft power which also takes into account prop efficiency. If you mess up with asking you can clarify it and it will re calculate.

AI is evolving rapidly it's going to replace a lot of jobs. Elons Optimus robot will also take a lot of unskilled jobs.

They said full self driving vehicles couldn't be done many quit or were fired from Tesla latest version is really good.

AI will be a huge part of the future







Thanks for the info Baron.  I just signed up and will have a look over the next few days.   I am retired electrical engineer so it will be of great interest if it does what I hope it will do!   I still like to keep up to date with what is happening in my sparky world even though retired.
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