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Reply #60 - Oct 18^th, 2025 at 8:45am

Another one. Even when Hamas invades Israel, kidnaps hostages, then uses the as human shields in the inevitable war, it is all the Jews' fault.

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 17^th, 2025 at 4:37pm:

Check it out. I'm surprised more weren't killed by IDF's reckless bombing campaigns. What did they expect ?? Sad

[quote]Forensic evidence shows that 18-year-old Israeli hostage Tamir Nimrodi was killed by an Israeli airstrike — not by Hamas.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 113612 Melbourne Gender:	Re: the evil Jew/Israeli conspiracies Reply #61 - Oct 18^th, 2025 at 8:45am freediver wrote on Oct 18^th, 2025 at 8:41am: I meant, who actually created ISIS? I was kind of hoping you'd tell us but I can only speculate that it was Islamic militants who wanted an Islamic State in Syria that also included part of Iraq.
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Re: the evil Jew/Israeli conspiracies
Reply #62 - Oct 18^th, 2025 at 8:51am

Bobby. wrote on Oct 18^th, 2025 at 8:45am:

freediver wrote on Oct 18^th, 2025 at 8:41am:

I meant, who actually created ISIS?

I was kind of hoping you'd tell us but
I can only speculate that it was Islamic militants
who wanted an Islamic State in Syria
that also included part of Iraq.

Thanks Bobby. I just needed to put "actually" into the question to get you to give a straight answer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State#Organisation

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamic_State_members

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Re: the evil Jew/Israeli conspiracies
Reply #63 - Oct 18^th, 2025 at 11:02am

freediver wrote on Oct 18^th, 2025 at 8:51am:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 18^th, 2025 at 8:45am:

freediver wrote on Oct 18^th, 2025 at 8:41am:

I meant, who actually created ISIS?

I was kind of hoping you'd tell us but
I can only speculate that it was Islamic militants
who wanted an Islamic State in Syria
that also included part of Iraq.

Thanks Bobby. I just needed to put "actually" into the question to get you to give a straight answer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State#Organisation

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamic_State_members

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51560 At my desk.	Re: the evil Jew/Israeli conspiracies Reply #64 - Oct 18^th, 2025 at 11:06am Nail where do you get your constant stream of BS conspiracy theories about the Jews from? Is there a facebook group called I'm an idiot, please lie to me so I can mouth of somewhere else and look like an idiot?
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Reply #65 - Oct 18^th, 2025 at 11:13am

freediver wrote on Oct 18^th, 2025 at 8:41am:

TGD It's not a conspiracy theory: Net is threatening "all hell will break loose" if Hamas don't deliver the Israeli corpses back to Israel, regardless of the fact the Hamas personell who knew the whereabouts of the hostages were themselves slaughtered during the IDF's operations in Gaza.

I mean, how did the Jews trick Hamas into agreeing to return all the bodies of the murdered hostages as part of the peace deal, when they had already lost them?

No "trick", but a lack of awareness of the situation on the ground in Gaza, when Hamas representatives in Egypt negotiated Trump's peace deal in Egypt; the reps assumed the bodies could be located, as required by the agreement.

But Hamas in Gaza was decimated and incapacitated.

Anyway, I'm pleased you now understand why the Muslims who found themselves living in "Israel" in 1948 were angry, when their land was confiscated as per UN res 181.

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Is Hamas part of the grand Jewish conspiracy?

No; Hamas was created as the result of extremist reaction against the continued occupation of Palestinian territory after the '67 war - eventually resulting in Hamas's formal founding in 1987.

FD, why do you keep asking all these dumb questions?

Ah...of course, your delusional (desirable but impossible) "individual freedom" ideology.

"For all to be free, all must abide by rule of law" Cicero.

Lucky for you, your delusions are backed by the Pentagon who don't abide by international law (which is most unfortunate for world peace...); whereas Hamas - who are equally deluded, claiming the "freedom" to believe in the 'God-ordained' universal Caliphate - are not backed by the Pentagon.

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Who created ISIS Bobby?

More dumb questions.

Try asking google, so you don't have to keep asking dumb questions:

"ISIS, or the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, was created in April 2013 when the Islamic State of Iraq (ISI) merged with the al-Nusra Front and expanded into Syria. The group announced its new name, Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham (ISIL), following this merger.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51560 At my desk.	Re: the evil Jew/Israeli conspiracies Reply #66 - Oct 18^th, 2025 at 11:27am Quote: No "trick", but a lack of awareness of the situation on the ground in Gaza, when Hamas representatives in Egypt negotiated Trump's peace deal in Egypt So Hamas did not know they had "lost" the bodies of the hostages they murdered?
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Reply #67 - Oct 18^th, 2025 at 12:13pm

freediver wrote on Oct 18^th, 2025 at 11:27am:

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No "trick", but a lack of awareness of the situation on the ground in Gaza, when Hamas representatives in Egypt negotiated Trump's peace deal in Egypt

So Hamas did not know they had "lost" the bodies of the hostages they murdered?

Hamas representatives in Egypt did not know WHERE the bodies were, or WHO murdered them, since the IDF reduced Gaza to rubble while decimating Hamas militants (and civilians) in Gaza; no doubt even knowledge of tunnel layout - and who was in them - has been lost.

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Re: the evil Jew/Israeli conspiracies
Reply #68 - Oct 18^th, 2025 at 12:24pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 18^th, 2025 at 12:13pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 18^th, 2025 at 11:27am:

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No "trick", but a lack of awareness of the situation on the ground in Gaza, when Hamas representatives in Egypt negotiated Trump's peace deal in Egypt

So Hamas did not know they had "lost" the bodies of the hostages they murdered?

Hamas representatives in Egypt did not know WHERE the bodies were, or WHO murdered them, since the IDF reduced Gaza to rubble while decimating Hamas militants (and civilians) in Gaza; no doubt even knowledge of tunnel layout - and who was in them - has been lost.

So Hamas were aware that they were unaware of where the bodies were of the people they had taken hostage and murdered, but they still agreed to ceasefire terms that required them to return all the bodies?

If you kidnap people from an enemy state with a vastly superior military, don't you think it would make sense to prioritise keeping track of where they are and who murdered them? Or at least flag that you had lost track of some of them before taking on an obligation to return them? They were the centrepiece of the entire war.

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Re: the evil Jew/Israeli conspiracies
Reply #69 - Oct 18^th, 2025 at 3:06pm

freediver wrote on Oct 18^th, 2025 at 12:24pm:

So Hamas were aware that they were unaware of where the bodies were of the people they had taken hostage and murdered, but they still agreed to ceasefire terms that required them to return all the bodies?

If you kidnap people from an enemy state with a vastly superior military, don't you think it would make sense to prioritise keeping track of where they are and who murdered them? Or at least flag that you had lost track of some of them before taking on an obligation to return them? They were the centrepiece of the entire war.

Dear FD,
in case you didn't know - Hamas is very disorganised -
in many cases the Hamas members who knew under which demolished buildings the
dead Israelis were, have also been killed by bombings -
those former Hamas members are lying dead under buildings too.
The whole of Gaza is a demolition site.
There could be 100,000 corpses lying under the rubble - maybe more?

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51560 At my desk.	Re: the evil Jew/Israeli conspiracies Reply #70 - Oct 18^th, 2025 at 4:59pm Quote: The whole of Gaza is a demolition site. No it isn't Bobby. Gaza city might be.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 113612 Melbourne Gender:	Re: the evil Jew/Israeli conspiracies Reply #71 - Oct 18^th, 2025 at 5:12pm freediver wrote on Oct 18^th, 2025 at 4:59pm: Quote: The whole of Gaza is a demolition site. No it isn't Bobby. Gaza city might be. Just Google it - Gaza looks like Hiroshima after WW2. I'm sick of having to Google for you.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51560 At my desk.	Re: the evil Jew/Israeli conspiracies Reply #72 - Oct 18^th, 2025 at 5:18pm Quote: Just Google it - Photos of buildings that are not destroyed do not make the news Bobby. Unless the whole of Gaza is levelled, then they might.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 113612 Melbourne Gender:	Re: the evil Jew/Israeli conspiracies Reply #73 - Oct 18^th, 2025 at 9:22pm freediver wrote on Oct 18^th, 2025 at 5:18pm: Quote: Just Google it - Photos of buildings that are not destroyed do not make the news Bobby. Unless the whole of Gaza is levelled, then they might. Are there any buildings left standing?
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51560 At my desk.	Re: the evil Jew/Israeli conspiracies Reply #74 - Oct 19^th, 2025 at 8:13am Yes Bobby.
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