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Reply #45 - Oct 17^th, 2025 at 9:32am

freediver wrote on Oct 17^th, 2025 at 9:20am:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 17^th, 2025 at 8:58am:

freediver wrote on Oct 17^th, 2025 at 8:51am:

The US spent about 2 decades trying to set up a democracy in Iraq. You will not find anything like that in world history, ever. To blame them for ISIS because they somehow "did not try hard enough" is a backbreaking effort at spineless apologetics for Islamic mainstreamism. Local Muslims took it upon themselves to create ISIS.

Nonsense.
Saddam had the Islamic extremists under control using barbaric methods -
the desert in Iraq is full of mass unmarked graves.
They wouldn't dare to try anything when he was in charge.
When the Yanks got rid of Saddam was when the trouble started and it got out of control.
ISIS took over.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/For_want_of_a_nail

For want of a nail the shoe was lost;
for want of a shoe the horse was lost;
and for want of a horse the rider was lost,
being overtaken and slain by the enemy,
all for want of care about a horse-shoe nail.

Causation: In tort law, this proverb is used to question whether a defendant's negligence was the direct cause of a plaintiff's damage. The phrase is often invoked to argue that a connection between the defendant's act and the plaintiff's injury is too tenuous or remote to be legally actionable.

The people who created ISIS are responsible for creating ISIS. They are the members of ISIS. The members of ISIS who raped and pillaged their way across the middle east are responsible for raping and pillaging their way across the middle east.

You cannot blame America for toppling Saddam. You cannot blame the British for creating America. You cannot blame the Romans, French and vikings for their role in creating Britain. You cannot blame the first human beings who walked out of Africa. Why are you so desperate to avoid blaming the people who actually created ISIS for creating ISIS?

Also, the fact that Iraq had the worst human rights in the world under Saddam does not somehow increase America's responsibility for ISIS.

Yep and we know who created them don't we Wink

They were a consequence of your misguided invasion of another sovereign country looking for weapons of mass disappearance.

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Re: the evil Jew/Israeli conspiracies
Reply #46 - Oct 17^th, 2025 at 9:37am

Frank wrote on Oct 17^th, 2025 at 9:25am:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 17^th, 2025 at 8:50am:

The USA supplied powerful weapons to all of the above.
Doesn't that also make them at least partially responsible for what has happened?

An analogy:

the local pub has fights every Saturday night -
your solution is go there and hand out baseball bats and knuckle dusters
to one group that you support?

So much for 'Muslims are just like us', eh?

Is our children learning? No. We are importing them by the million into the West.

Yes, and all of those refugees are the fallout from all of Satanyahus psychotic wars in the Middle East over the last 30 years. Of course, the genocidal apartheid regime in Israel would never take any of those Palestinian refugees who have been displaced. That's the responsibility of countries like Australia Sad

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51573 At my desk.	Re: the evil Jew/Israeli conspiracies Reply #47 - Oct 17^th, 2025 at 10:40am Quote: the Yanks had no day after plan when they got rid of Saddam Does the next two decades count as the "day after" plan Bobby? Who created ISIS Bobby?
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51573 At my desk.	Re: the evil Jew/Israeli conspiracies Reply #48 - Oct 17^th, 2025 at 10:41am Quote: They were a consequence of your misguided invasion I did not invade anyone Nail.
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Re: the evil Jew/Israeli conspiracies
Reply #49 - Oct 17^th, 2025 at 10:51am

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 17^th, 2025 at 9:37am:

Frank wrote on Oct 17^th, 2025 at 9:25am:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 17^th, 2025 at 8:50am:

The USA supplied powerful weapons to all of the above.
Doesn't that also make them at least partially responsible for what has happened?

An analogy:

the local pub has fights every Saturday night -
your solution is go there and hand out baseball bats and knuckle dusters
to one group that you support?

So much for 'Muslims are just like us', eh?

Is our children learning? No. We are importing them by the million into the West.

Yes, and all of those refugees are the fallout from all of Satanyahus psychotic wars in the Middle East over the last 30 years. Of course, the genocidal apartheid regime in Israel would never take any of those Palestinian refugees who have been displaced. That's the responsibility of countries like Australia Sad

Yeah, why didn't the Soviet Union give asylum to the Gestapo after 1945, eh? Cry

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Re: the evil Jew/Israeli conspiracies
Reply #50 - Oct 17^th, 2025 at 10:54am

freediver wrote on Oct 17^th, 2025 at 10:41am:

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They were a consequence of your misguided invasion

I did not invade anyone Nail.

You endorsed it and your taxes paid for it and they didn't even take it to a vote in parliament !! Remember "The Man of Steel" ?? How much did that cost us ?? Israel got a free ride out of us suckers. And look at Frank trying to justify it as usual. Suckers !! Cheesy

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Then old Magoo Howard admits later on that it was "faulty intelligence", but he would still do it all again Cheesy

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51573 At my desk.	Re: the evil Jew/Israeli conspiracies Reply #51 - Oct 17^th, 2025 at 10:56am Quote: You endorsed it You lie Nail. Nail where do you get your constant stream of BS conspiracy theories about the Jews from? Is there a facebook group called I'm an idiot, please lie to me so I can mouth of somewhere else and look like an idiot?
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Reply #52 - Oct 17^th, 2025 at 10:59am

freediver wrote on Oct 17^th, 2025 at 10:56am:

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You endorsed it

You lie Nail.

Nail where do you get your constant stream of BS conspiracy theories about the Jews from? Is there a facebook group called I'm an idiot, please lie to me so I can mouth of somewhere else and look like an idiot?

Through association. It was part of bibi's plan for a greater Israel so just like Gaza you would have endorsed it being bibi's bendover errand boy Cheesy

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Reply #53 - Oct 17^th, 2025 at 12:05pm

freediver wrote on Oct 16^th, 2025 at 10:08am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 16^th, 2025 at 9:17am:

So it's worth restarting the genocide and killing thousands more over a few dead corpses that are buried beneath 100's of tonnes of rubble that the IDF created in the first place because they kept renegging on every ceasefire and hostage deal when most likely the deceased hostages were probably still alive at those earlier stages !! Do you know how insane you sound ?

Can you explain the logic behind this conspiracy theory Nail?

It's not a conspiracy theory: Net is threatening "all hell will break loose" if Hamas don't deliver the Israeli corpses back to Israel, regardless of the fact the Hamas personell who knew the whereabouts of the hostages were themselves slaughtered during the IDF's operations in Gaza.

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Are you saying the Jews conspired to trick Hamas into agreeing to return the bodies of the murdered hostages as part of the ceasefire deal, even though they had "lost" them?

The usual question coming from you based on an error; the facts on the ground are not a "conspircy theory".

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Reply #54 - Oct 17^th, 2025 at 12:15pm

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2025 at 4:30pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 15^th, 2025 at 4:08pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2025 at 4:04pm:

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Because people don't like their land being confiscated, which you KNOW, at least intuitively, even if you don't want to admit it to yourself.

Whose land do you think was "confiscated"?

Are you dementing?

The half of Palestine, as per UN res 181.

Try reading the question again.

I did; the question is straightforward, not a cryptic puzzle.

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Whose land do you think was "confiscated"? You claim this is the reason the Muslims are upset at Israel's existence. So why can you not tell who you are talking about?

I'm talking about the Muslims who found themselves living in "Israel", after their land was confiscated as per UN res 181.

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Re: the evil Jew/Israeli conspiracies
Reply #55 - Oct 17^th, 2025 at 12:48pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 17^th, 2025 at 10:59am:

freediver wrote on Oct 17^th, 2025 at 10:56am:

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You endorsed it

You lie Nail.

Nail where do you get your constant stream of BS conspiracy theories about the Jews from? Is there a facebook group called I'm an idiot, please lie to me so I can mouth of somewhere else and look like an idiot?

Through association. It was part of bibi's plan for a greater Israel so just like Gaza you would have endorsed it being bibi's bendover errand boy Cheesy

LOL

Netanyahu wasn't PM during the Iraq war, ya nyaff.

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Reply #56 - Oct 17^th, 2025 at 2:43pm

Frank wrote on Oct 17^th, 2025 at 12:48pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 17^th, 2025 at 10:59am:

freediver wrote on Oct 17^th, 2025 at 10:56am:

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You endorsed it

You lie Nail.

Nail where do you get your constant stream of BS conspiracy theories about the Jews from? Is there a facebook group called I'm an idiot, please lie to me so I can mouth of somewhere else and look like an idiot?

Through association. It was part of bibi's plan for a greater Israel so just like Gaza you would have endorsed it being bibi's bendover errand boy Cheesy

LOL

Netanyahu wasn't PM during the Iraq war, ya nyaff.

Nevertheless (back to the present), as Jeffrey Sachs has correctly stated:

"All of the Arab states have said we will have peace with Israel when there is a state of Palestine as a Member state of the UN and properly constituted."

https://www.jeffsachs.org/newspaper-articles/prrhap4c7dj9jp5w5yxclbpxr7b6bh

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Re: the evil Jew/Israeli conspiracies
Reply #57 - Oct 17^th, 2025 at 3:24pm

freediver wrote on Oct 17^th, 2025 at 10:40am:

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the Yanks had no day after plan when they got rid of Saddam

Does the next two decades count as the "day after" plan Bobby?

Who created ISIS Bobby?

That is a difficult question -
some say that Israel and the USA were behind it -
it's more likely that it was just the vacuum created after they got rid of Saddam.

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Reply #58 - Oct 17^th, 2025 at 5:50pm

Study Finds Jews Are Always Cool And Nice And Their Bagels Are Great Too [This Post Sponsored By Israel For $7,000]

U.S. — A new study has just conclusively proved that Jewish people are always cool, their bagels are great, and Israel is number one.

[Ed. This post was sponsored by Israel for $7,000.]

According to several respected scientists, the study found that Jews are the bee's knees, so to speak, and that their yarmulkes are flippin' sweet. Also, they're the best, and they make terrific challah bread.

"Our results clearly show that all Jewish people, especially those in Israel, are just terrific," Levi Benjamin Mendelbergsohn told the Babylon Bee. "In a choice between bacon and Jewish people, survey respondents picked Jewish people every time. We're really very nice, and it would be so great if someone could spread the word."

Other facts that the study determined about Jews are that they are often very witty, incredibly smart, and do not run the world using a mysterious cabal.

"We also do not have a giant space laser, make sure you write that down," Mendelbergsohn said. "We want absolutely zero suspicion about us having a laser or a weather control machine. Ha! What a great joke all of that is."

At publishing time, the editorial team at the Babylon Bee had announced that if any other people group would like to sponsor a post, that would be great as we really could use another $7k.

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Re: the evil Jew/Israeli conspiracies
Reply #59 - Oct 18^th, 2025 at 8:41am

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 17^th, 2025 at 10:59am:

freediver wrote on Oct 17^th, 2025 at 10:56am:

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You endorsed it

You lie Nail.

Nail where do you get your constant stream of BS conspiracy theories about the Jews from? Is there a facebook group called I'm an idiot, please lie to me so I can mouth of somewhere else and look like an idiot?

Through association. It was part of bibi's plan for a greater Israel so just like Gaza you would have endorsed it being bibi's bendover errand boy Cheesy

LOL

Interesting. I didn't think you made up your own lies and BS. I thought you copied and pasted them all.

Nail where do you get your constant stream of BS conspiracy theories about the Jews from? Is there a facebook group called I'm an idiot, please lie to me so I can mouth of somewhere else and look like an idiot?

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 17^th, 2025 at 12:05pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 16^th, 2025 at 10:08am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 16^th, 2025 at 9:17am:

So it's worth restarting the genocide and killing thousands more over a few dead corpses that are buried beneath 100's of tonnes of rubble that the IDF created in the first place because they kept renegging on every ceasefire and hostage deal when most likely the deceased hostages were probably still alive at those earlier stages !! Do you know how insane you sound ?

Can you explain the logic behind this conspiracy theory Nail?

It's not a conspiracy theory: Net is threatening "all hell will break loose" if Hamas don't deliver the Israeli corpses back to Israel, regardless of the fact the Hamas personell who knew the whereabouts of the hostages were themselves slaughtered during the IDF's operations in Gaza.

I mean, how did the Jews trick Hamas into agreeing to return all the bodies of the murdered hostages as part of the peace deal, when they had already lost them? Is Hamas part of the grand Jewish conspiracy?

Bobby. wrote on Oct 17^th, 2025 at 3:24pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 17^th, 2025 at 10:40am:

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the Yanks had no day after plan when they got rid of Saddam

Does the next two decades count as the "day after" plan Bobby?

Who created ISIS Bobby?

That is a difficult question -
some say that Israel and the USA were behind it -
it's more likely that it was just the vacuum created after they got rid of Saddam.

I meant, whoa actually created ISIS?

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