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Reply #15 - Oct 12th, 2025 at 11:56am
 
Jesus Christ!

I would hate to be an ordinary American right now! Health care to be priced out of reach, now the bodies that can protect against mass disease are gone.

How many will die in the next 2 years?
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Reply #16 - Oct 12th, 2025 at 12:00pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 12th, 2025 at 11:56am:
Jesus Christ!

I would hate to be an ordinary American right now! Health care to be priced out of reach, now the bodies that can protect against mass disease are gone.

How many will die in the next 2 years?


Exactly.

He's gonna kill tens of thousands of Americans.

So sad to see the rapid decline of the United States.
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Reply #17 - Oct 12th, 2025 at 12:02pm
 
If coal fired power revives somewhat—more deaths from the pollution. Coal power is dirty.
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Reply #18 - Oct 12th, 2025 at 8:10pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 12th, 2025 at 12:02pm:
If coal fired power revives somewhat—more deaths from the pollution. Coal power is dirty.


Sure, but it triggers the leftards ever so, no?

Besides, the big fella calls it clean coal, or for the more politically correct, beautiful clean coal.

We've gotta have coal, he says. Those windmills are such eyesores. As Lee likes pointing out, look at all the CO2 emissions that go into making them.

Why must the left lie?

They could learn a thing or two from RFK Jnr, that's for sure. Thankfully, he took the time to explain the science on early circumcision and autism.

Rest assured, gents, he said. It's not the circumcisions that cause it, no. It's the Tylenol.

Yes, it's all those babies being dosed with painkillers. As DL says, you've gotta ride out the pain. Wise words indeed, no?

The big fella knows all about pain, that's for sure. Being forced to sit in a Manhattan courtroom for days on end was hell. It wasn't too nice for those sitting near him after the lunch break either.

Sure, the Big Pharma-funded fakes have all come out to complain, as they do. The American College of Pediatrics says Tylenol is never supposed to be administered to babies under three months. The Yanks give the chop within 48 hours of delivery, they say, so that settles that.

Look, what would some college of pediatrics know? RFK's been over the studies at length. If the US Secretary of Health doesn't know a thing or two about health, who does? He's totally unbiased on this. It's not like he has a financial incentive or anything.

Apart from his cut of all the Big Pharma class action lawsuits he's worked on, he's totally clean. The big fella only hires the best of the best. You can't trust doctors, everybody knows that.

TRIGGERED !!!
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Reply #19 - Oct 14th, 2025 at 5:26pm
 
"In one of the greatest violations of medical ethics in modern history, a new study from South Korea has uncovered devastating consequences from promoting and mandating the COVID-19 injections on the population.

These shots were pushed on babies and pregnant women, directly contradicting the ethical rule against introducing new medical interventions to such vulnerable groups before long-term effects are fully understood.

But they weren’t just aggressively promoted; they were enforced. Refusing the COVID-19 injection could cost you your job, bar you from concerts, businesses, and museums, and, in some cases, even deny you a life-saving surgery unless you complied with the mandate.

Now, as many doctors long warned, the consequences of such reckless health policy are surfacing, and one of the most alarming outcomes is a dramatic rise in cancer risk.

A large-scale population study out of South Korea has now found a 27% overall increase in cancer linked to the COVID-19 injections that were marketed as “safe and effective.”

Dr. John Campbell noted: “There’s a one in a thousand chance that this result arose by chance.”

With regard to the details of the study, Children’s Health Defense reports:

    The study used data from 2021–2023 for over 8.4 million people in South Korea’s National Health Insurance Service database. The sample was split into two groups based on vaccination status. The vaccinated sample was further split into booster and non-booster groups.

    Researchers tracked the patients for one year. The vaccinated group was tracked following vaccination. The results showed a statistically significant higher risk of cancer in the vaccinated group, including:

    • Overall cancer: 27% higher risk

    • Breast cancer: 20% higher risk

    • Colorectal cancer: 28% higher risk

    • Gastric cancer: 34% higher risk

    • Lung cancer: 53% higher risk

    • Prostate cancer: 69% higher risk

    • Thyroid cancer: 35% higher risk



These results are nothing short of devastating. Our worst fears have become reality.

And the worst part is that it didn’t have to be this way. Health officials ignored caution, silenced dissent, and turned public health into a reckless experiment."

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/10/devastating-covid-19-vaccine-side-effec...

Paper here - https://biomarkerres.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40364-025-00831-w

"In terms of vaccine type, cDNA vaccines were associated with the increased risks of thyroid, gastric, colorectal, lung, and prostate cancers; mRNA vaccines were linked to the increased risks of thyroid, colorectal, lung, and breast cancers; and heterologous vaccination was related to the increased risks of thyroid and breast cancers."
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Reply #20 - Oct 14th, 2025 at 5:46pm
 

Is there any evidence that COVID vaccines do cause cancer?

No. Beyond the controversy surrounding the South Korean study, global medical and scientific authorities have unequivocally affirmed the safety of the vaccines and have denied any link to cancer.

Experts from BMJ, the medical journal, have stated that there is no evidence supporting claims that mRNA vaccines are linked to cancer, noting that global epidemiological tracking data shows no surge in cancer cases following vaccine rollouts.
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Reply #21 - Oct 14th, 2025 at 5:48pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 14th, 2025 at 5:46pm:
No. Beyond the controversy surrounding the South Korean study, global medical and scientific authorities have unequivocally affirmed the safety of the vaccines and have denied any link to cancer.



Yep. Cowardice comes cheaper than paying recompense. Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #22 - Oct 14th, 2025 at 5:56pm
 
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I agree with the authors that these questions matter. But for the answers to be convincing, the study design must isolate causality—and here, it cannot. A one-year window is far more likely to capture pre-existing cancers than to detect de novo carcinogenesis. This is classic surveillance bias: vaccinated people have more contact with the health care system, especially amid post-pandemic screening rebound, so more cancers are found regardless of any biological effect. Strikingly, the six “excess” sites align with cancers subject to routine screening in South Korea (thyroid ultrasound, gastric endoscopy, etc.), making a detection-driven explanation far more plausible than causation. Crucial confounders—from smoking and alcohol use to screening history and health care utilization—are not reported, leaving substantial residual confounding.

A second flaw is time alignment. Vaccination is a time-varying exposure; a baseline match risks misattributing person-time and introducing immortal-time bias. The booster analysis (Table 1) itself reveals the problem: while overall cancer risk is unchanged (HR ≈ 1.01), site-specific estimates diverge in opposite directions (e.g., pancreas HR 2.25; leukemia HR 0.56). This pattern is the hallmark of a design artifact, not a coherent carcinogenic mechanism. On latency grounds alone, the one-year horizon is biologically implausible for most solid tumors.


https://pubpeer.com/publications/51B792BD1CF07B27C0A23A2B225E15
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Reply #23 - Oct 14th, 2025 at 7:24pm
 
So now we shouldn't trust Nature magazine. Oh dear.

But another comment on JM's post

"This Korean study is an interesting analysis of population-level data, examining cancer diagnoses within one year of either primary or booster COVID-19 vaccination compared with unvaccinated controls. Matching was done on age (<65, 65–74, 75+), sex, socioeconomic status (insurance-based), comorbidity score, and prior COVID-19 infection.

The propensity score matching is appropriate and strengthens comparability, but important potential confounders may remain. Most notably, age was coarsely grouped with all <65 lumped together—yet a person in their 20s is both far less likely to be vaccinated and far less likely to be diagnosed with cancer than someone in their 60s. Unless the continuous age distributions match well across groups, this could create a spurious vaccine–cancer association. Smoking, alcohol use, and environmental exposures (if available in the dataset) should also have been considered in matching or covariate adjustment."

Except vaccinnation rates by Stista show apaert from 17-20 year olds was between 90% to 98%.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1358025/south-korea-national-covid-19-vaccin...
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Reply #25 - Oct 14th, 2025 at 7:27pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 14th, 2025 at 5:46pm:
Is there any evidence that COVID vaccines do cause cancer?

No. Beyond the controversy surrounding the South Korean study, global medical and scientific authorities have unequivocally affirmed the safety of the vaccines and have denied any link to cancer.

Experts from BMJ, the medical journal, have stated that there is no evidence supporting claims that mRNA vaccines are linked to cancer, noting that global epidemiological tracking data shows no surge in cancer cases following vaccine rollouts.


Contrary to the claims circulating, the Korean researchers emphasised the limitations of their conclusions and denied offering any evidence of causality.

In their conclusion, the study’s authors stated: “Given the limited availability of real-world data, our population-based cohort study in Seoul, South Korea suggested epidemiological associations between the cumulative incidence of cancers and COVID-19 vaccination, which varied by sex, age and vaccine type. However, further studies are warranted to elucidate potential causal relationships, including the underlying molecular mechanisms related to COVID-19 vaccine-induced hyperinflammation.”

This quote clearly shows that the study presented only “epidemiological associations” and called for further research to explore potential causal links. Therefore, any claim that vaccines “cause” cancer is a direct distortion of the facts.

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Reply #26 - Oct 14th, 2025 at 7:35pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 14th, 2025 at 7:27pm:
elucidate potential causal relationships


Ah yes Elucidation. It doesn't mean bogus. There is a link, it must be explored further.

lee wrote on Oct 14th, 2025 at 5:26pm:
Dr. John Campbell noted: “There’s a one in a thousand chance that this result arose by chance.”


But it is all good, apparently. Roll Eyes
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Reply #27 - Oct 14th, 2025 at 7:42pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 14th, 2025 at 7:27pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 14th, 2025 at 5:46pm:
Is there any evidence that COVID vaccines do cause cancer?

No. Beyond the controversy surrounding the South Korean study, global medical and scientific authorities have unequivocally affirmed the safety of the vaccines and have denied any link to cancer.

Experts from BMJ, the medical journal, have stated that there is no evidence supporting claims that mRNA vaccines are linked to cancer, noting that global epidemiological tracking data shows no surge in cancer cases following vaccine rollouts.


Contrary to the claims circulating, the Korean researchers emphasised the limitations of their conclusions and denied offering any evidence of causality.

In their conclusion, the study’s authors stated: “Given the limited availability of real-world data, our population-based cohort study in Seoul, South Korea suggested epidemiological associations between the cumulative incidence of cancers and COVID-19 vaccination, which varied by sex, age and vaccine type. However, further studies are warranted to elucidate potential causal relationships, including the underlying molecular mechanisms related to COVID-19 vaccine-induced hyperinflammation.”

This quote clearly shows that the study presented only “epidemiological associations” and called for further research to explore potential causal links. Therefore, any claim that vaccines “cause” cancer is a direct distortion of the facts.



'any claim that vaccines “cause” cancer is a direct distortion of the facts.'

'the Korean researchers emphasised the limitations of their conclusions and denied offering any evidence of causality.'
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Reply #28 - Oct 14th, 2025 at 7:55pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 14th, 2025 at 7:42pm:

Therefore, any claim that vaccines “cause” cancer is a direct distortion of the facts.



Ah I see you now get your facts from Aljazeera. Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #29 - Oct 14th, 2025 at 8:25pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 14th, 2025 at 7:42pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 14th, 2025 at 7:27pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 14th, 2025 at 5:46pm:
Is there any evidence that COVID vaccines do cause cancer?

No. Beyond the controversy surrounding the South Korean study, global medical and scientific authorities have unequivocally affirmed the safety of the vaccines and have denied any link to cancer.

Experts from BMJ, the medical journal, have stated that there is no evidence supporting claims that mRNA vaccines are linked to cancer, noting that global epidemiological tracking data shows no surge in cancer cases following vaccine rollouts.


Contrary to the claims circulating, the Korean researchers emphasised the limitations of their conclusions and denied offering any evidence of causality.

In their conclusion, the study’s authors stated: “Given the limited availability of real-world data, our population-based cohort study in Seoul, South Korea suggested epidemiological associations between the cumulative incidence of cancers and COVID-19 vaccination, which varied by sex, age and vaccine type. However, further studies are warranted to elucidate potential causal relationships, including the underlying molecular mechanisms related to COVID-19 vaccine-induced hyperinflammation.”

This quote clearly shows that the study presented only “epidemiological associations” and called for further research to explore potential causal links. Therefore, any claim that vaccines “cause” cancer is a direct distortion of the facts.



'any claim that vaccines “cause” cancer is a direct distortion of the facts.'

'the Korean researchers emphasised the limitations of their conclusions and denied offering any evidence of causality.'


In scientific terms, an “epidemiological association” indicates a statistical relationship or common pattern between two events, without implying that one causes the other.

To illustrate, if ice cream sales rise in the summer while drowning incidents also increase, there is an epidemiological correlation, but this does not mean that ice cream causes drowning; the common cause is warm weather causing people to eat ice creams and go swimming.

The manipulation occurs when this correlation is twisted into “definitive causality”, the trap influencers fell into. They ignored the scientific warnings and promoted the claim that vaccines “increase the risk”.

The true explanation likely lies in a phenomenon known as “surveillance bias”. People who were more inclined to receive the vaccine were often more diligent about medical check-ups and regular screenings, meaning cancer was diagnosed earlier – not caused by the vaccine.
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