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Jovial Monk

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Reply #15 - Dec 2^nd, 2025 at 8:48am

Continuing the description of viruses, same source as above:

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Are viruses living or nonliving?

Viruses aren’t living organisms. But there’s some debate over this. Generally, biologists don’t consider viruses to be alive because they can’t perform the functions that living organisms do. For instance, they can’t convert food into energy (metabolism) and they can’t live or reproduce without a host cell.

On the other hand, they can reproduce in the right host cell and they evolve over time to survive. Plus, they can damage and destroy host cells to do so. Because of this, many consider them a “gray area” between living and nonliving things.

This calls for a discussion of what constitutes “living.”

One criteria is irritability to environmental stimuli. Life reacts to irritants. On this criteria viruses are not alive.

Replication is another a virus does replicate, create copies of itself. But it needs outside help—a host cell—to do so. Does that satisfy the replication criterion?

Difficult question!

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 54138 Gender:	Re: What is a virus? Reply #16 - Dec 2^nd, 2025 at 11:06am Pot smoker
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51473 Gender:	Re: What is a virus? Reply #17 - Dec 2^nd, 2025 at 12:20pm Origins of viruses: http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1764638515
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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 54138 Gender:	Re: What is a virus? Reply #18 - Dec 2^nd, 2025 at 3:15pm Monk is a Pox
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51473 Gender:	Re: What is a virus? Reply #20 - Dec 8^th, 2025 at 6:37pm god doesn’t exist.
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Frank Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 54611 Gender:	Re: What is a virus? Reply #21 - Dec 8^th, 2025 at 8:05pm Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 8^th, 2025 at 6:37pm: god doesn’t exist. Prove it. Does imagination exist? Love? Hope? Sympathy, charity? Understanding across ages? A bond between past, present and future? It's all God.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51473 Gender:	Re: What is a virus? Reply #22 - Dec 8^th, 2025 at 9:50pm Imagination etc only started existing when the Homo genus had evolved sufficiently—Neanderthals, Denisovans, Sapiens, maybe a species before that—Homo erectus perhaps. Not proof of afterlife, more proof of fear of death.
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Re: What is a virus?
Reply #23 - Yesterday at 5:19pm

Frank wrote on Dec 8^th, 2025 at 8:05pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 8^th, 2025 at 6:37pm:

god doesn’t exist.

Prove it.

Does imagination exist? Love? Hope? Sympathy, charity? Understanding across ages? A bond between past, present and future?

It's all God.

What exactly elevates your opinions to such a lofty perch that you imagine everyone else owes you the labour of disproving whatever notion drifts through your head?

Why is it that you're never held to the most basic standard of demonstrating that what you claim has even a passing acquaintance with reality?

This pattern defines almost every exchange you're involved in. You're so chronically unable to step outside your own narrow frame that you simply presume your beliefs to be true by default, as though your internal certainty were some kind of empirical credential.

I used to assume you were merely trolling, but at this point it's far more plausible that you're operating with a few missing pieces. It's why you're such an easy mark, time and again.

And honestly, if your deity actually existed, wouldn't it be trivially easy to demonstrate?

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