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Judge denies Trump National Guard authority
Oct 6^th, 2025 at 1:51pm

It seems that poor old Trump just can’t catch a break, and nor should he. After being ordered by a federal Judge not to send Oregon National Guard to Portland, and he sent California National Guard instead, a new Judge has banned him from sending any National Guard from any state to Portland in a major win for Oregon!

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/05/us/trump-national-guard-california-oregon-new...

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aquascoot Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36753 Gender:	Re: Judge denies Trump National Guard authority Reply #1 - Oct 6^th, 2025 at 2:20pm 34 charges against the big fella? A bit of premature ejaculation there from the judiciary. Now Donny doesn't take them seriously. And with good justification
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ProudKangaroo Gold Member Offline The Sandstorm is coming 🎵Doo doo doo doo🎵 Posts: 21070 Meeanjin (Brisbane)	Re: Judge denies Trump National Guard authority Reply #2 - Oct 6^th, 2025 at 2:28pm It doesn't pay to be a Judge who rules against Trump. Stephen Miller will brand you a Terrorist and an enemy of the state, sending MAGA to burn down their houses, Link
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Re: Judge denies Trump National Guard authority
Reply #3 - Oct 6^th, 2025 at 2:38pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Oct 6^th, 2025 at 2:28pm:

It doesn't pay to be a Judge who rules against Trump. Stephen Miller will brand you a Terrorist and an enemy of the state, sending MAGA to burn down their houses,

And aquascoot, Frank, Gordon et al. will cheer it on.

We know who the real terrorists are.

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Re: Judge denies Trump National Guard authority
Reply #4 - Oct 6^th, 2025 at 2:59pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 6^th, 2025 at 2:38pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Oct 6^th, 2025 at 2:28pm:

It doesn't pay to be a Judge who rules against Trump. Stephen Miller will brand you a Terrorist and an enemy of the state, sending MAGA to burn down their houses,

And aquascoot, Frank, Gordon et al. will cheer it on.

We know who the real terrorists are.

Starting lawfare was always going to come back to bite the left on the bum

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 146385 Gender:	Re: Judge denies Trump National Guard authority Reply #5 - Oct 6^th, 2025 at 3:17pm See, I was right.
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Re: Judge denies Trump National Guard authority
Reply #6 - Oct 6^th, 2025 at 3:27pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Oct 6^th, 2025 at 2:28pm:

It doesn't pay to be a Judge who rules against Trump. Stephen Miller will brand you a Terrorist and an enemy of the state, sending MAGA to burn down their houses,

https://i.imgur.com/8dxJfVO.jpeg

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Judge Karin Immergut is a Trump appointee, so hardly a left-wing Judge. Seems even the Trump appointees just don’t agree with him.

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Re: Judge denies Trump National Guard authority
Reply #7 - Oct 6^th, 2025 at 3:55pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 6^th, 2025 at 3:27pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Oct 6^th, 2025 at 2:28pm:

It doesn't pay to be a Judge who rules against Trump. Stephen Miller will brand you a Terrorist and an enemy of the state, sending MAGA to burn down their houses,

https://i.imgur.com/8dxJfVO.jpeg

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Judge Karin Immergut is a Trump appointee, so hardly a left-wing Judge. Seems even the Trump appointees just don’t agree with him.

Small but telling detail I neglected to mention, mostly because I foolishly assumed people could grasp the obvious, anyone who speaks out against Trump is immediately branded a left wing terrorist.

You should see how quickly the MAGA crowd is turning on farmers who dare criticise Trump, even when those same farmers have flown the MAGA flag for years.

They've started to cannibalise each other, and this is before the full weight of Trump's economic vandalism has even landed. The worst impacts on trade, healthcare, cost of living, all still incoming.

So it's no surprise they're already laying the groundwork to strip voting rights from Blue states and cities, normalising masked agents and uniformed military patrolling the streets like it's a perfectly reasonable part of democracy.

Anyone who can't hear the alarm bells ringing now never will, not until they're staring down the barrel of a gun for failing to cheer loud enough for Trump, or wondering why Taco Tuesday now costs more than fifty bucks.

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By then, it will be too late.

Just wait until they see how much it's going to cost for Halloween candy and Thanksgiving...

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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88828 Proud Old White Australian Man Gender:	Re: Judge denies Trump National Guard authority Reply #8 - Oct 6^th, 2025 at 5:16pm Bloody left wing terrorists... at last someone has stated the truth..
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 146385 Gender:	Re: Judge denies Trump National Guard authority Reply #9 - Oct 6^th, 2025 at 7:09pm ProudKangaroo wrote on Oct 6^th, 2025 at 2:28pm: It doesn't pay to be a Judge who rules against Trump. Stephen Miller will brand you a Terrorist and an enemy of the state, sending MAGA to burn down their houses, ... This Stephen Miller? https://www.youtube.com/shorts/q9tH0CLp01w
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 60371 Here Gender:	Re: Judge denies Trump National Guard authority Reply #10 - Oct 6^th, 2025 at 8:02pm Quote: Judge denies Trump National Guard authority This like so many things has never been an issue in the past. Everyone has always agreed that a president cannot do this. This only becomes an issue when you have an insane authoritarian president.
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Re: Judge denies Trump National Guard authority
Reply #11 - Oct 6^th, 2025 at 8:49pm

Why is there no announcements from Trump about deploying the National Guard in any of the Republican states listed in the top ten murder rates in the US, of which 7 out of the 10 are Republican states? If he were serious about reducing crime, he would've already announced this for Louisiana, which is Speaker Johnson's state!

District of Columbia - Democrat (***not a state***)
Louisiana - Republican
New Mexico - Democrat
Alabama - Republican
Tennessee - Republican
Arkansas - Republican
Missouri - Republican
South Carolina - Republican
Alaska - Republican
Maryland - Democrat

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Re: Judge denies Trump National Guard authority
Reply #12 - Oct 6^th, 2025 at 9:05pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 6^th, 2025 at 8:49pm:

Why is there no announcements from Trump about deploying the National Guard in any of the Republican states listed in the top ten murder rates in the US, of which 7 out of the 10 are Republican states? If he were serious about reducing crime, he would've already announced this for Louisiana, which is Speaker Johnson's state!

District of Columbia - Democrat (***not a state***)
Louisiana - Republican
New Mexico - Democrat
Alabama - Republican
Tennessee - Republican
Arkansas - Republican
Missouri - Republican
South Carolina - Republican
Alaska - Republican
Maryland - Democrat

The local authorities can control as best as possible, within normal bounds, the ordinary crimes... it doesn't lead to a 100% arrest and convictionrate, but it is all that can be done short of a total despotism ..... such things as assemblies that amount to insurrection are an entirely different matter.

Elsewhere I posted the view that those assemblies amounting to an 'international intifada' in Australia should be banned, and then stamped down on by bussing in troops sworn in as Temporary Special Constables with a right of arrest and restraint, and of self-defence.

Under no circumstances, in any civilised country, should rioters and insurrectionists - particularly those supporting some foreign hostile state or ideology, be permitted to go forward and cause disruption and fear to the ordinary populace - that latter being in itself an act of terrorism designed to achieve a political objective.

Why does the United States not have the same right? Because you don't like Trump because the silly media tell you so?

WTF is wrong with you all?

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Re: Judge denies Trump National Guard authority
Reply #13 - Oct 6^th, 2025 at 10:37pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 6^th, 2025 at 9:05pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 6^th, 2025 at 8:49pm:

Why is there no announcements from Trump about deploying the National Guard in any of the Republican states listed in the top ten murder rates in the US, of which 7 out of the 10 are Republican states? If he were serious about reducing crime, he would've already announced this for Louisiana, which is Speaker Johnson's state!

District of Columbia - Democrat (***not a state***)
Louisiana - Republican
New Mexico - Democrat
Alabama - Republican
Tennessee - Republican
Arkansas - Republican
Missouri - Republican
South Carolina - Republican
Alaska - Republican
Maryland - Democrat

The local authorities can control as best as possible, within normal bounds, the ordinary crimes... it doesn't lead to a 100% arrest and convictionrate, but it is all that can be done short of a total despotism ..... such things as assemblies that amount to insurrection are an entirely different matter.

Elsewhere I posted the view that those assemblies amounting to an 'international intifada' in Australia should be banned, and then stamped down on by bussing in troops sworn in as Temporary Special Constables with a right of arrest and restraint, and of self-defence.

Under no circumstances, in any civilised country, should rioters and insurrectionists - particularly those supporting some foreign hostile state or ideology, be permitted to go forward and cause disruption and fear to the ordinary populace - that latter being in itself an act of terrorism designed to achieve a political objective.

Why does the United States not have the same right? Because you don't like Trump because the silly media tell you so?

WTF is wrong with you all?

You didn't answer the question.

"Why is there no announcements from Trump about deploying the National Guard in any of the Republican states listed in the top ten murder rates in the US, of which 7 out of the 10 are Republican states?"

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Re: Judge denies Trump National Guard authority
Reply #14 - Oct 7^th, 2025 at 2:49am

ProudKangaroo wrote on Oct 6^th, 2025 at 3:55pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 6^th, 2025 at 3:27pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Oct 6^th, 2025 at 2:28pm:

It doesn't pay to be a Judge who rules against Trump. Stephen Miller will brand you a Terrorist and an enemy of the state, sending MAGA to burn down their houses,

https://i.imgur.com/8dxJfVO.jpeg

Link

Judge Karin Immergut is a Trump appointee, so hardly a left-wing Judge. Seems even the Trump appointees just don’t agree with him.

Small but telling detail I neglected to mention, mostly because I foolishly assumed people could grasp the obvious, anyone who speaks out against Trump is immediately branded a left wing terrorist.

You should see how quickly the MAGA crowd is turning on farmers who dare criticise Trump, even when those same farmers have flown the MAGA flag for years.

They've started to cannibalise each other, and this is before the full weight of Trump's economic vandalism has even landed. The worst impacts on trade, healthcare, cost of living, all still incoming.

So it's no surprise they're already laying the groundwork to strip voting rights from Blue states and cities, normalising masked agents and uniformed military patrolling the streets like it's a perfectly reasonable part of democracy.

Anyone who can't hear the alarm bells ringing now never will, not until they're staring down the barrel of a gun for failing to cheer loud enough for Trump, or wondering why Taco Tuesday now costs more than fifty bucks.

https://i.imgur.com/IYXNPJ0.png

Link

By then, it will be too late.

Just wait until they see how much it's going to cost for Halloween candy and Thanksgiving...

The NYT word of the day:

turgid \ ˈtʌrdʒəd \ adjective
1. ostentatiously lofty in style

2. abnormally swollen, especially by fluids or gas

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