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Re: HAMAS has rejected ceasefire proposal
Reply #15 - Oct 3^rd, 2025 at 7:33pm

freediver wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2025 at 3:46pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2025 at 1:23pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2025 at 8:15am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2025 at 12:21am:

So, Trump retains the title of the worst negotiator the world has ever seen.

Has he stopped the Ukraine war yet?

He said it would take 24 hours - it's been 11 months now.

To be fair, people have been trying to stop them attacking the Jews for over half a century, with no luck.

You sure about that bro ?? Cheesy

Yes. The Muslims have been trying to wipe out Israel for as long as Israel has existed. You are equating loser with victim. They are not the same thing. At least, not always. You only have to scratch the surface to see.

Before Hamas was Fatah trying to wipe out the Jews. Hamas is not the result of Israeli genocide. It is the result of Fatah negotiating peace, and the local Muslims voting their preference for more war. They are getting exactly what they asked for.

Yeh sure bro Wink

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Re: HAMAS has rejected ceasefire proposal
Reply #16 - Oct 3^rd, 2025 at 7:55pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2025 at 7:33pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2025 at 3:46pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2025 at 1:23pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2025 at 8:15am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2025 at 12:21am:

So, Trump retains the title of the worst negotiator the world has ever seen.

Has he stopped the Ukraine war yet?

He said it would take 24 hours - it's been 11 months now.

To be fair, people have been trying to stop them attacking the Jews for over half a century, with no luck.

You sure about that bro ?? Cheesy

Yes. The Muslims have been trying to wipe out Israel for as long as Israel has existed. You are equating loser with victim. They are not the same thing. At least, not always. You only have to scratch the surface to see.

Before Hamas was Fatah trying to wipe out the Jews. Hamas is not the result of Israeli genocide. It is the result of Fatah negotiating peace, and the local Muslims voting their preference for more war. They are getting exactly what they asked for.

Yeh sure bro Wink

Are you attempting to disagree with me Nail?

I agree with Gurion. The Arabs cannot accept peace because they are indoctrinated to think that the land "belongs" to Islam, and anything remotely resembling Jewish "ownership" of it is an affront to their ideology. Even if that ownership takes the form of a wealthy liberal democracy in which the Arab Muslims have more rights and freedoms, and more say in the governance of the country, than in any other middle eastern or north african country. Gurion was right on the money. The Muslims are committed to slaughtering Jews. Understanding their commitment to slaughtering Jews is not the same thing as condoning it though.

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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88750 Proud Old White Australian Man Gender:	Re: HAMAS has rejected ceasefire proposal Reply #17 - Oct 3^rd, 2025 at 10:41pm Not to mention what they would do to the Muslim Israelis....... and the rest.
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Re: HAMAS has rejected ceasefire proposal
Reply #18 - Yesterday at 9:05am

2025-Oct-04 Sat

IT IS BEING REPORTED, THIS MORNING........

1/ HAMAS agrees to release ALL of the Israeli hostages [...the living and the dead].

2/ But HAMAS says.....they WILL NOT [they still refuse to] DISARM.

I think this [#2] is a 'NO-GO', it is still, a deal breaker.

i.e.
THERE WILL BE,
NO END OF THE WAR IN GAZA YET.

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"A war never ends by one side declaring victory,
but by one side admitting defeat."

- Ahmad Shah Massoud

Respect.

TODAY....2025-Oct-04 Sat

NOT YET !!!

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Re: HAMAS has rejected ceasefire proposal
Reply #19 - Yesterday at 9:08am

Looks like weasel words to me. They are not exactly in a position to negotiate.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdxq7zp7002o

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Hamas has agreed to release all the remaining Israeli hostages but says it wants further negotiations on a number of key points outlined in the US peace plan.

In a statement, the group said it agreed "to release all Israeli prisoners, both living and dead, according to the exchange formula contained in President Trump's proposal" - if the proper conditions for the exchanges are met.

But it appears to suggest it is seeking further negotiation on other issues regarding the future of Gaza and the rights of Palestinians, saying they are still being discussed.

The announcement came hours after US President Donald Trump gave Hamas a Sunday deadline to accept the peace plan or face "all hell".

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Re: HAMAS has rejected ceasefire proposal
Reply #20 - Yesterday at 9:40am

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2025 at 12:21am:

So, Trump retains the title of the worst negotiator the world has ever seen.

Has he stopped the Ukraine war yet?

He said it would take 24 hours - it's been 11 months now.

I thought the number one rule for most countries was -

No negotiation with terrorists?

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Re: HAMAS has rejected ceasefire proposal
Reply #21 - Yesterday at 9:42am

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2025 at 1:23pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2025 at 8:15am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2025 at 12:21am:

So, Trump retains the title of the worst negotiator the world has ever seen.

Has he stopped the Ukraine war yet?

He said it would take 24 hours - it's been 11 months now.

To be fair, people have been trying to stop them attacking the Jews for over half a century, with no luck.

You sure about that bro ?? Cheesy

You're a terrorist supporting lunatic.

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Re: HAMAS has rejected ceasefire proposal
Reply #22 - Yesterday at 11:23am

Well, it's been a very expensive war but it looks like Bibi and Donald have made a point.

Israel has smashed Gaza and removed most of the senior Hamas gang. Trump has given Iran a smack-down in terms of breaking one of their uranium enriching sites.

Israel has killed off the Iranian nuclear scientists.

What a deadly mess it has been.

This person wasn't very bright was he?

It seems pretty clear that Hamas is running out of time.

Hamas issued its response to Trump's 20-point plan after the US president gave the Palestinian militant group until Monday AEST to accept or reject the proposal.

Mr Trump has not said whether the terms would be subject to negotiation, as Hamas is seeking.

Earlier, he warned Hamas it would have "all hell" to pay if it did not accept his peace plan for Gaza within a few days.

"If this LAST CHANCE agreement is not reached, all HELL, like no one has ever seen before, will break out against Hamas," he wrote.

He had initially given Hamas three to four days to accept the deal after his 20-point plan was announced on Tuesday.

In the post, he said "innocent Palestinians" should evacuate to an unspecified area in anticipation of a potential assault on Hamas's remaining forces.

Most of Hamas's fighters "are surrounded and MILITARILY TRAPPED, just waiting for me to give the word, 'GO,' for their lives to be quickly extinguished. As for the rest, we know where and who you are, and you will be hunted down, and killed," he said.

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Re: HAMAS has rejected ceasefire proposal
Reply #23 - Yesterday at 12:42pm

Gnads wrote Yesterday at 9:40am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2025 at 12:21am:

So, Trump retains the title of the worst negotiator the world has ever seen.

Has he stopped the Ukraine war yet?

He said it would take 24 hours - it's been 11 months now.

I thought the number one rule for most countries was -

No negotiation with terrorists?

So why is Trump negotiating with terrorists then?

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Re: HAMAS has rejected ceasefire proposal
Reply #24 - Yesterday at 1:14pm

greggerypeccary wrote Yesterday at 12:42pm:

Gnads wrote Yesterday at 9:40am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2025 at 12:21am:

So, Trump retains the title of the worst negotiator the world has ever seen.

Has he stopped the Ukraine war yet?

He said it would take 24 hours - it's been 11 months now.

I thought the number one rule for most countries was -

No negotiation with terrorists?

So why is Trump negotiating with terrorists then?

Is he negotiating or delivering an ultimatum.

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Re: HAMAS has rejected ceasefire proposal
Reply #25 - Yesterday at 1:30pm

Leroy wrote Yesterday at 1:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote Yesterday at 12:42pm:

Gnads wrote Yesterday at 9:40am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2025 at 12:21am:

So, Trump retains the title of the worst negotiator the world has ever seen.

Has he stopped the Ukraine war yet?

He said it would take 24 hours - it's been 11 months now.

I thought the number one rule for most countries was -

No negotiation with terrorists?

So why is Trump negotiating with terrorists then?

Is he negotiating or delivering an ultimatum.

Negotiating (badly).

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Re: HAMAS has rejected ceasefire proposal
Reply #26 - Yesterday at 1:34pm

A large part of the gaza strip has already been levelled, and the residents are living off Israeli food aid, electricity etc. And the destruction is ongoing while Israel hunts down Hamas and tries to find the hostages. It is hard to tell what anyone else could threaten them with, as no-one wants to have them living off their welfare. They already know they will get more of the same until the hostages are returned. They have always chosen more of the same. There is nothing really left to be said. That's why Hamas, Israel, Trump and everyone else are not really saying anything. Everyone is just waiting for the people of Gaza to come to their senses. Don't hold your breath.

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Re: HAMAS has rejected ceasefire proposal
Reply #27 - Yesterday at 1:45pm

greggerypeccary wrote Yesterday at 1:30pm:

Leroy wrote Yesterday at 1:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote Yesterday at 12:42pm:

Gnads wrote Yesterday at 9:40am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2025 at 12:21am:

So, Trump retains the title of the worst negotiator the world has ever seen.

Has he stopped the Ukraine war yet?

He said it would take 24 hours - it's been 11 months now.

I thought the number one rule for most countries was -

No negotiation with terrorists?

So why is Trump negotiating with terrorists then?

Is he negotiating or delivering an ultimatum.

Negotiating (badly).

Of course not being submissive to Hamas is negotiating badly if you have TDS.

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Re: HAMAS has rejected ceasefire proposal
Reply #28 - Yesterday at 2:25pm

Leroy wrote Yesterday at 1:45pm:

greggerypeccary wrote Yesterday at 1:30pm:

Leroy wrote Yesterday at 1:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote Yesterday at 12:42pm:

Gnads wrote Yesterday at 9:40am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2025 at 12:21am:

So, Trump retains the title of the worst negotiator the world has ever seen.

Has he stopped the Ukraine war yet?

He said it would take 24 hours - it's been 11 months now.

I thought the number one rule for most countries was -

No negotiation with terrorists?

So why is Trump negotiating with terrorists then?

Is he negotiating or delivering an ultimatum.

Negotiating (badly).

Of course not being submissive to Hamas is negotiating badly if you have TDS.

Trump is submissive to Netenyahu, Putin and now Hamas.

He couldn't negotiate his way out of a wet paper bag.

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Re: HAMAS has rejected ceasefire proposal
Reply #29 - Yesterday at 5:33pm

greggerypeccary wrote Yesterday at 2:25pm:

Leroy wrote Yesterday at 1:45pm:

greggerypeccary wrote Yesterday at 1:30pm:

Leroy wrote Yesterday at 1:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote Yesterday at 12:42pm:

Gnads wrote Yesterday at 9:40am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2025 at 12:21am:

So, Trump retains the title of the worst negotiator the world has ever seen.

Has he stopped the Ukraine war yet?

He said it would take 24 hours - it's been 11 months now.

I thought the number one rule for most countries was -

No negotiation with terrorists?

So why is Trump negotiating with terrorists then?

Is he negotiating or delivering an ultimatum.

Negotiating (badly).

Of course not being submissive to Hamas is negotiating badly if you have TDS.

Trump is submissive to Netenyahu, Putin and now Hamas.

He couldn't negotiate his way out of a wet paper bag.

He's got Hamas against the walls and by the balls - one mis-step and it's all over red rover.. .. and Vlad, in a cold sweat, is watching from the sidelines... while the Ayatollahs are all learning Kumbayah .....and the Houthi are too dumb to tremble...

.. To B-2 or not B-2 ....... that is the question...

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