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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 146217 Gender:	Re: Paracetamol and Pregnancy - Lies From Trump Reply #45 - Sep 28^th, 2025 at 11:12am Surely Trump - convicted felon and adjudicated rapist - knows more about these things than the American College of Obstetricians & Gynecologists and the UK’s Medicines & Healthcare products Regulatory Agency.
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Reply #46 - Sep 28^th, 2025 at 12:17pm

mothra wrote on Sep 28^th, 2025 at 9:45am:

The real strength of our study came from being able to compare siblings. This allowed us to compare children born to the same mother, where acetaminophen had been used during one child’s pregnancy but not the other. We compared over 45,000 sibling pairs, where at least one sibling had an autism diagnosis.

And of course that means every sibling pair should have autism, if indeed there is no correlation/causation and having different fathers wasn't a factor either.

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Reply #47 - Sep 28^th, 2025 at 12:22pm

lee wrote on Sep 28^th, 2025 at 12:17pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 28^th, 2025 at 9:45am:

The real strength of our study came from being able to compare siblings. This allowed us to compare children born to the same mother, where acetaminophen had been used during one child’s pregnancy but not the other. We compared over 45,000 sibling pairs, where at least one sibling had an autism diagnosis.

And of course that means every sibling pair should have autism, if indeed there is no correlation/causation and having different fathers wasn't a factor either.

I see your understanding of gene expression is as robust as your grasp on climate science.

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Reply #48 - Sep 28^th, 2025 at 12:28pm

mothra wrote on Sep 28^th, 2025 at 12:22pm:

I see your understanding of gene expression is as robust as your grasp on climate science.

Nope it was your claim. that there was no nexus between tylenol and autism. So for the study to be true, all data should reflect that.

So autism is not a good indicator of siblings suffering it. It can miss entire generations.

Fathers can carry the gene, so looking at mothers only is not scientific.

Prove me wrong. Wink

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36233 Gender:	Re: Paracetamol and Pregnancy - Lies From Trump Reply #49 - Sep 28^th, 2025 at 12:31pm ... How do you manage to get yourself into these situations, Lee?
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Reply #50 - Sep 28^th, 2025 at 12:39pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 28^th, 2025 at 11:12am:

Surely Trump - convicted felon and adjudicated rapist - knows more about these things than the American College of Obstetricians & Gynecologists and the UK’s Medicines & Healthcare products Regulatory Agency.

I'm still laughing at this as well:

https://x.com/atrupar/status/1970230078828105984 (may need to click the speaker icon to get sound)

Quote:

Trump: "Asceda -- well, let's see how we say that. Ascenem -- enophin. Acetaminophen. Is that okay?"

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Reply #51 - Sep 28^th, 2025 at 1:05pm

mothra wrote on Sep 28^th, 2025 at 12:31pm:

How do you manage to get yourself into these situations, Lee?

"However, scientists found a strong genetic component from the father that contributed to an autism diagnosis in siblings."

https://www.autismparentingmagazine.com/which-parent-carries-autism-gene/

"Rather than a single “autism gene,” scientists have identified numerous genetic variations that may increase the likelihood of developing ASD.

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While having a sibling with autism does increase the likelihood of ASD in other siblings, it does not guarantee it. The relationship between autism and siblings is complex and influenced by various factors."

https://neurolaunch.com/if-my-sibling-has-autism-do-i/

Hmm, Complex. That means simple answers aeren't enough.

Btw - mothra wrote on Sep 28^th, 2025 at 12:22pm:

I see your understanding of gene expression is as robust as your grasp on climate science.

Perhaps you can tell us about Koppen's Climate Classification Sytem. Now that is the basis of climate science. Wink

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36233 Gender:	Re: Paracetamol and Pregnancy - Lies From Trump Reply #52 - Sep 28^th, 2025 at 1:10pm Fecked if i know what point you think you've made, Lee, butt from my perspective, you're making a colossal tit of yourself then winking about it, bizarrely.
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Reply #53 - Sep 28^th, 2025 at 2:12pm

mothra wrote on Sep 28^th, 2025 at 1:10pm:

Fecked if i know what point you think you've made, Lee, butt from my perspective, you're making a colossal tit of yourself then winking about it, bizarrely.

Not as big a tit as yourself. Wink

And you kn ow nothing about climate classification but can pontificate on climate change. Absolutely bizarre. Grin

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Reply #54 - Sep 28^th, 2025 at 3:35pm

lee wrote on Sep 28^th, 2025 at 12:28pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 28^th, 2025 at 12:22pm:

I see your understanding of gene expression is as robust as your grasp on climate science.

Nope it was your claim. that there was no nexus between tylenol and autism. So for the study to be true, all data should reflect that.

So autism is not a good indicator of siblings suffering it. It can miss entire generations.

Fathers can carry the gene, so looking at mothers only is not scientific.

Prove me wrong. Wink

No worries. DL said.

Now, try to argue your way out of that.

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Reply #55 - Sep 28^th, 2025 at 3:39pm

lee wrote on Sep 28^th, 2025 at 2:12pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 28^th, 2025 at 1:10pm:

Fecked if i know what point you think you've made, Lee, butt from my perspective, you're making a colossal tit of yourself then winking about it, bizarrely.

Not as big a tit as yourself. Wink

And you kn ow nothing about climate classification but can pontificate on climate change. Absolutely bizarre. Grin

He's right, Mother. Pontificating on climate change without knowing anything about climate classification is a big no no.

In fact, and I'm sure Lee will agree with me here, so is the term climate change. You can't say that, dear.

If you can't say something nice, you shouldn't be saying anything at all.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 19403 Gender:	Re: Paracetamol and Pregnancy - Lies From Trump Reply #56 - Sep 28^th, 2025 at 3:49pm Karnal wrote on Sep 28^th, 2025 at 3:35pm: Now, try to argue your way out of that. Argue what exactly?
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 77853 Gender:	Re: Paracetamol and Pregnancy - Lies From Trump Reply #57 - Sep 28^th, 2025 at 8:53pm lee wrote on Sep 28^th, 2025 at 3:49pm: Karnal wrote on Sep 28^th, 2025 at 3:35pm: Now, try to argue your way out of that. Argue what exactly? since when has that stopped you?
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