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Re: Yolŋu people celebrate 50 years of the homelands
Reply #90 - Oct 1^st, 2025 at 3:38pm

John Smith wrote on Oct 1^st, 2025 at 2:27pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 26^th, 2025 at 6:53pm:

Iryna Zarutska was murdered by a racist & not one black person surrounding her did a god damned thing because she was white.

Whilst the white passengers were to busy recording her for their facebook feed to save her.

Not too many wharte passengers there, bro... ya godda pictyah?

Y'all point me to dat Wharte fullah dere, yo? Dat a SECURITY camera picture and footage, y'all... you dig?

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Re: Yolŋu people celebrate 50 years of the homelands
Reply #91 - Oct 1^st, 2025 at 6:09pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Oct 1^st, 2025 at 1:20pm:

Gnads wrote on Oct 1^st, 2025 at 1:15pm:

No - because you keep at it that I added the Iryna Zarutska text ... saying I've been caught out, saying I should own it, saying I should apologise etc etc.

If anything you're just being your usual monster hypocrite.

STFU

Yeah, because it only exists in YOUR post, the one YOU wrote.

Maybe stop doing that if you don't want to get called out about it.

If you want to call me a hypocrite, then you'd better be able to show where I've modified other people's posts, inserting text in quotes that wasn't in the original, like in your post, otherwise, I'd appreciate it if you would correct that lie and apologise for that too.

Edit: Looks like you updated your post after I replied, so I'll address those changes in the next reply.

I didn't write it you phuktard - you did - all I did was quote you and highlight what was in your post.

Funny how the OP I responded to was no longer there ey? Albeit in a modified form without the Iryna Zaritska text.

I did not add the text in your post. so get phukked once again. You are a sociopath piece of shyte.

And the way you're carrying on like a pig dog on an ear makes me all the more suspicious about you motives & character.

I don't give a phuk who altered your post - even if it was you being a devious POS - it wasn't me.

And if I'm not mistaken your business is all about IT & I'd bet you are the instigator of the whole saga.

You sick phuk.

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Re: Yolŋu people celebrate 50 years of the homelands
Reply #92 - Oct 1^st, 2025 at 6:12pm

John Smith wrote on Oct 1^st, 2025 at 2:27pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 26^th, 2025 at 6:53pm:

Iryna Zarutska was murdered by a racist & not one black person surrounding her did a god damned thing because she was white.

Whilst the white passengers were to busy recording her for their facebook feed to save her.

She was the only white passenger you dimwit.

You've been watching AI leftoid alterations on Youtube?

Btw imbecile the cctv footage of her attack was from the onboard railway video surveillance cameras - not white people.

That's why the scumbag had his hoody top over his head.

You're a low life POS.

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Re: Yolŋu people celebrate 50 years of the homelands
Reply #93 - Oct 1^st, 2025 at 10:09pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Oct 1^st, 2025 at 1:31pm:

Gnads wrote on Oct 1^st, 2025 at 1:15pm:

And then you keep going with this -
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I'm at a loss as to why you felt compelled to alter my quote when you posted it,

For the last time phukhead - I did not alter your post.

It's to the stage where I believe you took(edited) the Iryna Zarutska text out ... just to start this shyte.

So STFU

A Mod might be able to clear this up, but from where I'm sitting, it's technically impossible for me to change my post without an edit message since you replied to it more than two days after the original. Any changes after you'd already quoted me, if it's even technically possible, would have triggered an edit stamp.

That leaves two explanations. Either a Mod changed my post at the time you quoted it then quietly changed it back to the original to avoid an edit message, or you, without even bothering to fix the grammar, removed parts of my post and inserted the name of the woman who was murdered. You then used that doctored version to derail the discussion into a case of a black man in the US murdering her.

Which of those seems more plausible?

Could you have highlighted my text and accidentally pasted her name in while trying to quote me? Sure, but then you should have replied to the original text, not introduced her name into your reply.

This all feels deliberate and obvious.

I'm not in high school anymore, giving in to shouty tantrums just to keep the peace. I expect you to correct your lies and apologise for your abuse and behaviour around this.

Screaming and carrying on like a teenage girl doesn't absolve you of what you clearly did. Stop being a stubborn coward and own it.

You've been caught red handed.

Setanta is a mod - he came in and said there was nothing to discuss.

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Re: Yolŋu people celebrate 50 years of the homelands
Reply #94 - Oct 1^st, 2025 at 10:15pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2025 at 9:58am:

You actually expect to be taken seriously while defending your calls for segregation and even genocide of Indigenous Australians, and then have the audacity to shift the blame onto them?

You're not misunderstood, you're a genuinely terrible person.

How many times do you have to be told that I was only offering a Homeland that THEY demanded during the 'voice' campaign - only I'd only give it without a single bell or whistle.... you want to 'do things your way' and 'have your own state' - fine - go for it without us IN ANY WAY! THEY demanded and demand to this day segregation - their own 'courts', separate justice, separate this, powers that no other group has to order governments about.

It's not merely their demand for segregation on their terms ONLY - it is outright tyranny.

Genocide? All I said was that maybe 10% of them were worth saving from the mobs rioting out there.... and it is perfectly lawful for authorities to open fire on rioters who will not back down.... how slow are you?

Of course they are to blame - they are the ones making the outrageous demands for segregation and supremacy.

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Re: Yolŋu people celebrate 50 years of the homelands
Reply #95 - Oct 1^st, 2025 at 10:29pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 24^th, 2025 at 11:02am:

Is there some sort of link between racism and delusional thinking?

Because the way you lot carry on, it's indistinguishable. You spout lies, get caught out in your own words, get shown evidence that makes it undeniable, yet you still cling to the nonsense like it's sacred scripture.

So I thought I'd humour myself and go look it up, see if anyone had studied this, and sure enough, there's a body of research connecting the dots.

Turns out the same cognitive flaws that underpin delusional ideation, cherry-picking evidence, jumping to conclusions, motivated reasoning, also prop up racist beliefs. Not exactly clinical psychosis, but the thinking patterns overlap.

Which makes sense really.

It's not that you can't see reality, it's that you refuse to, because the facts threaten the little victimhood narrative you've built around your supposed superiority.

And so instead of engaging with the truth, you retreat to schoolyard quips like "You couldn't catch a cold. Roll Eyes

" proving the point better than I ever could.

Now that's the original - the Iryna bit seems to have filtered in somehow - and it doesn't have a space between its last word and the next bit....

Did PK write something about Iryna - vilely murdered by some black cont for no reason, and try to turn that into a slag against the good people here again and then chop it or add it or something? Did someone make a mistake and put it in while posting in another strand?

It's hardly worth all this kerfuffle - the black bastard did it on camera, and well - you all know by now that I oppose the death penalty - but this morning I suggested he get the needle - on slow drip....

YOU, Slack Kanga - are an obsessive fanatic with no morals or sense... just rhetoric based on your array of absurd narratives - just like the rest of the losers... you're going down... all of you... Trump over there has your kind by the balls right now... only idiots like Albo are trying desperately to hold out.... but the people are on the march worldwide over this kind of garbage...

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Re: Yolŋu people celebrate 50 years of the homelands
Reply #96 - Yesterday at 7:14am

Gnads wrote on Oct 1^st, 2025 at 6:09pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Oct 1^st, 2025 at 1:20pm:

Gnads wrote on Oct 1^st, 2025 at 1:15pm:

No - because you keep at it that I added the Iryna Zarutska text ... saying I've been caught out, saying I should own it, saying I should apologise etc etc.

If anything you're just being your usual monster hypocrite.

STFU

Yeah, because it only exists in YOUR post, the one YOU wrote.

Maybe stop doing that if you don't want to get called out about it.

If you want to call me a hypocrite, then you'd better be able to show where I've modified other people's posts, inserting text in quotes that wasn't in the original, like in your post, otherwise, I'd appreciate it if you would correct that lie and apologise for that too.

Edit: Looks like you updated your post after I replied, so I'll address those changes in the next reply.

I didn't write it you phuktard - you did - all I did was quote you and highlight what was in your post.

Funny how the OP I responded to was no longer there ey? Albeit in a modified form without the Iryna Zaritska text.

Exactly, now you’re starting to grasp it. Unless you seriously think there is a mod conspiracy againstt you, my post hasn’t been touched, as you can plainly see, given there’s no edit stamp.

You misquoted it more than two days after I made the original. Even if the forum allowed me to edit it that long after the fact, it would carry an edit stamp. It doesn’t.

So unless a moderator wants to weigh in and admit they somehow foresaw your reply, edited my post just in time for you to quote it, then magically reverted it afterwards, the only plausible explanation is that the change came from your post, not mine.

So tell me, are you really accusing the mods of secretly rewriting posts now?

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I did not add the text in your post. so get phukked once again. You are a sociopath piece of shyte.

And the way you're carrying on like a pig dog on an ear makes me all the more suspicious about you motives & character.

I don't give a phuk who altered your post - even if it was you being a devious POS - it wasn't me.

Again, nobody altered my post. Someone modified the quote of my post from the original in YOUR post.

All roads point to that someone being you.

When I first raised it with you, you flat-out refused to even admit there was a difference and immediately lashed out, trying to turn the tables by accusing me of altering posts. That is not the behaviour of someone who is the innocent victim of a mod-led clandestine conspiracy or some mere slip-up when quoting. From the outset, I suspected you were scrambling to cover the fact you'd been caught red-handed, a suspicion only strengthened by your continued tantrums and emotional outbursts.

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 27^th, 2025 at 10:15am:

Did you just modify my quote to have something to argue against?

Bottom of the barrel stuff there haha...

Way to prove my point about your lies.

Gnads wrote on Sep 27^th, 2025 at 10:46am:

Does it look like I modified anything you wrote?

All I did was highlight parts of your quote - it's all there as you posted it.

It's you lefty twerps who edit/modify peoples posts to use them in another context.
Try again Roo Sack

And after all this time, all you've managed to do is prove, again and again, that you've got something to hide.

A simple apology and a basic "oh, I don’t know what happened, let me edit my post to clear up the mistake" would have been more than enough.

Instead, you've chosen to be an abusive prick from the outset, refusing to even acknowledge that your post didn’t match the original, and then, when cornered, expecting me to swallow some absurd fantasy about a moderator conspiracy against you being the reason it doesn't line up?

I'm frankly insulted that you think I'm that gullible.

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And if I'm not mistaken your business is all about IT & I'd bet you are the instigator of the whole saga.

You sick phuk.

I work in IT, so spare me the pretence, I know exactly how this works.

Even Grap sees what you've done...

You've been caught red-handed, yet even now you persist in abusing me rather than showing an ounce of integrity by owning up and apologising for your behaviour.

Is everything alright with you? Are you really so desperate to save face here because you’re unravelling IRL?

I'll always stand up to disrespectful, abusive, whiny little operators like you, but if you're genuinely going through something, I'm not a heartless monster. Even after the dishonesty and contempt you've shown me, my DMs are open if you actually need to talk.

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Re: Yolŋu people celebrate 50 years of the homelands
Reply #97 - Yesterday at 7:30am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 1^st, 2025 at 10:29pm:

YOU, Slack Kanga - are an obsessive fanatic with no morals or sense...

I don't like injustice, it really is that simple.

It is an injustice to take the actions of one individual and then smear every ethnically or religiously similar person as though they are guilty by association, especially when the same people refuse to apply that standard to themselves. That is why you and I often clash.

I'm sure you don't consider yourself a paedophile because countless conservative white men keep being arrested on CSA charges.

It is also an injustice to dismiss what Indigenous Australians say about their homelands, the land stolen from them during invasion, where the British carried out genocidal acts, massacres, forced removals and policies designed to erase them and their cultures.

Yet when they speak of their homelands, you sneer as though it's some double standard that they can do so and be applauded, but you cannot.

But let's be honest, your "homeland" fantasy is not a homeland at all, it is a grotesque scheme of containment, a hermetically sealed dome you've nicknamed "Aborassic Park", where the plan is to corral Indigenous people and sell tickets for the wealthy to enter and hunt them.

When people call that racist, when they point out it's segregation and mass murder you're pushing, you cry foul and pretend you are the victim of injustice?

Nah.

I will also stand up against injustices committed against me. If I won't stand up for myself, then who will?

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Re: Yolŋu people celebrate 50 years of the homelands
Reply #98 - Yesterday at 9:24am

ProudKangaroo wrote Yesterday at 7:14am:

Gnads wrote on Oct 1^st, 2025 at 6:09pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Oct 1^st, 2025 at 1:20pm:

Gnads wrote on Oct 1^st, 2025 at 1:15pm:

No - because you keep at it that I added the Iryna Zarutska text ... saying I've been caught out, saying I should own it, saying I should apologise etc etc.

If anything you're just being your usual monster hypocrite.

STFU

Yeah, because it only exists in YOUR post, the one YOU wrote.

Maybe stop doing that if you don't want to get called out about it.

If you want to call me a hypocrite, then you'd better be able to show where I've modified other people's posts, inserting text in quotes that wasn't in the original, like in your post, otherwise, I'd appreciate it if you would correct that lie and apologise for that too.

Edit: Looks like you updated your post after I replied, so I'll address those changes in the next reply.

I didn't write it you phuktard - you did - all I did was quote you and highlight what was in your post.

Funny how the OP I responded to was no longer there ey? Albeit in a modified form without the Iryna Zaritska text.

Exactly, now you’re starting to grasp it. Unless you seriously think there is a mod conspiracy againstt you, my post hasn’t been touched, as you can plainly see, given there’s no edit stamp.

You misquoted it more than two days after I made the original. Even if the forum allowed me to edit it that long after the fact, it would carry an edit stamp. It doesn’t.

So unless a moderator wants to weigh in and admit they somehow foresaw your reply, edited my post just in time for you to quote it, then magically reverted it afterwards, the only plausible explanation is that the change came from your post, not mine.

So tell me, are you really accusing the mods of secretly rewriting posts now?

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I did not add the text in your post. so get phukked once again. You are a sociopath piece of shyte.

And the way you're carrying on like a pig dog on an ear makes me all the more suspicious about you motives & character.

I don't give a phuk who altered your post - even if it was you being a devious POS - it wasn't me.

Again, nobody altered my post. Someone modified the quote of my post from the original in YOUR post.

All roads point to that someone being you.

When I first raised it with you, you flat-out refused to even admit there was a difference and immediately lashed out, trying to turn the tables by accusing me of altering posts. That is not the behaviour of someone who is the innocent victim of a mod-led clandestine conspiracy or some mere slip-up when quoting. From the outset, I suspected you were scrambling to cover the fact you'd been caught red-handed, a suspicion only strengthened by your continued tantrums and emotional outbursts.

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 27^th, 2025 at 10:15am:

Did you just modify my quote to have something to argue against?

Bottom of the barrel stuff there haha...

Way to prove my point about your lies.

Gnads wrote on Sep 27^th, 2025 at 10:46am:

Does it look like I modified anything you wrote?

All I did was highlight parts of your quote - it's all there as you posted it.

It's you lefty twerps who edit/modify peoples posts to use them in another context.
Try again Roo Sack

And after all this time, all you've managed to do is prove, again and again, that you've got something to hide.

A simple apology and a basic "oh, I don’t know what happened, let me edit my post to clear up the mistake" would have been more than enough.

Instead, you've chosen to be an abusive prick from the outset, refusing to even acknowledge that your post didn’t match the original, and then, when cornered, expecting me to swallow some absurd fantasy about a moderator conspiracy against you being the reason it doesn't line up?

I'm frankly insulted that you think I'm that gullible.

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And if I'm not mistaken your business is all about IT & I'd bet you are the instigator of the whole saga.

You sick phuk.

I work in IT, so spare me the pretence, I know exactly how this works.

Even Grap sees what you've done...

You've been caught red-handed, yet even now you persist in abusing me rather than showing an ounce of integrity by owning up and apologising for your behaviour.

Is everything alright with you? Are you really so desperate to save face here because you’re unravelling IRL?

I'll always stand up to disrespectful, abusive, whiny little operators like you, but if you're genuinely going through something, I'm not a heartless monster. Even after the dishonesty and contempt you've shown me, my DMs are open if you actually need to talk.

You work in IT - it is within your remit - not in my pay grade. I know where the pretense is.

I do not & never have deliberately added to or edited anyones texts/posts.

I have long complained of others here doing it.

And you must have some tickets on yourself if you believe I broken my own standards just for you?

So once again get phukked - the road your on is a dead end because it was not me - end of!!!!!

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Re: Yolŋu people celebrate 50 years of the homelands
Reply #99 - Yesterday at 10:21am

Gnads wrote Yesterday at 9:24am:

You work in IT - it is within your remit - not in my pay grade. I know where the pretense is.

I do not & never have deliberately added to or edited anyones texts/posts.

I have long complained of others here doing it.

And you must have some tickets on yourself if you believe I broken my own standards just for you?

So once again get phukked - the road your on is a dead end because it was not me - end of!!!!!

So what actually happened then?

The forum shows my post remained unedited since you quoted it. This was 2+ days after it was originally posted so modifications either can't be made without an edit time stamp or, depending on the forum settings, they can't be edited at all.

Yet your quote presents a modified version of what I wrote, and you responded directly to the alterations.

How does that happen if it wasn't you who either mistakenly or deliberately changed my words in your quote?

If you've historically railed against this kind of manipulation, why didn't you admit the discrepancy and correct it, instead of replying to my questions with name-calling and abuse?

And why persist with that abuse when it's obvious and irrefutable that the modification was within your post, dodging the swear filters with alternate spellings while you're at it?

Essentially, you've established the precedent that anyone can alter anyone else's quotes at will, reply directly to theirr modifications as if they came from the original poster, then double down with abuse and hope the wronged party simply lets it slide, and if they don't, just play the victim?

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So once again get phukked - the road your on is a dead end because it was not me - end of!!!!!

Since the mods weighed in with this, without taking any further action,

Setanta wrote on Sep 30^th, 2025 at 9:18pm:

There is no edit message for an edit within something like 5 minutes of the original post. It doesn't prove what you think it does.

Do we consider this the new precedent?

The rules are optional if you're abusive enough and pretend the person you wronged is at fault?

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Re: Yolŋu people celebrate 50 years of the homelands
Reply #100 - Yesterday at 10:47am

Going on and on about this silly thing is meaningless - get with the issues.... we all know the game so just learn to stop playing it.

A moderator said there was no time edit stamp... nobody knows how it got there, but I doubt Gnads would even bother - and for what purpose? what did anything about Iryna - killed by a black cont for no reason - change about the SUBJECT matter.

....... and all these years the Cheers have been telling us how dreadful the 'reservation system' was .. now they are demanding their very own reservations for ten people who do nothing with it and want to exclude everyone else from anything of value there .... not to mention that The Biggest Reservation - Arnhem Land, where EVERY evil of the Aboriginal culture has thrived for decades now... is some sort of sacred right.... while everyone else's homes and land are up for grabs from a greedy and selfish tiny minority who must be told to STFU and get over it ... I think that about sums it up ... oh - I forgot ... if they want a Homeland it will have to be self-funding.. so let's make all their New Reservations self-funding in entirety ... that'll bring 'em into the 21st Century ...

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Re: Yolŋu people celebrate 50 years of the homelands
Reply #101 - Yesterday at 10:52am

ProudKangaroo wrote Yesterday at 10:21am:

Gnads wrote Yesterday at 9:24am:

You work in IT - it is within your remit - not in my pay grade. I know where the pretense is.

I do not & never have deliberately added to or edited anyones texts/posts.

I have long complained of others here doing it.

And you must have some tickets on yourself if you believe I broken my own standards just for you?

So once again get phukked - the road your on is a dead end because it was not me - end of!!!!!

So what actually happened then?

The forum shows my post remained unedited since you quoted it. This was 2+ days after it was originally posted so modifications either can't be made without an edit time stamp or, depending on the forum settings, they can't be edited at all.

Yet your quote presents a modified version of what I wrote, and you responded directly to the alterations.

How does that happen if it wasn't you who either mistakenly or deliberately changed my words in your quote?

If you've historically railed against this kind of manipulation, why didn't you admit the discrepancy and correct it, instead of replying to my questions with name-calling and abuse?

And why persist with that abuse when it's obvious and irrefutable that the modification was within your post, dodging the swear filters with alternate spellings while you're at it?

Essentially, you've established the precedent that anyone can alter anyone else's quotes at will, reply directly to theirr modifications as if they came from the original poster, then double down with abuse and hope the wronged party simply lets it slide, and if they don't, just play the victim?

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So once again get phukked - the road your on is a dead end because it was not me - end of!!!!!

Since the mods weighed in with this, without taking any further action,

Setanta wrote on Sep 30^th, 2025 at 9:18pm:

There is no edit message for an edit within something like 5 minutes of the original post. It doesn't prove what you think it does.

Do we consider this the new precedent?

The rules are optional if you're abusive enough and pretend the person you wronged is at fault?

You're the so called expert - you tell me?

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Re: Yolŋu people celebrate 50 years of the homelands
Reply #102 - Yesterday at 11:02am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote Yesterday at 10:47am:

Going on and on about this silly thing is meaningless - get with the issues.... we all know the game so just learn to stop playing it.

A moderator said there was no time edit stamp... nobody knows how it got there, but I doubt Gnads would even bother - and for what purpose? what did anything about Iryna - killed by a black cont for no reason - change about the SUBJECT matter.

....... and all these years the Cheers have been telling us how dreadful the 'reservation system' was .. now they are demanding their very own reservations for ten people who do nothing with it and want to exclude everyone else from anything of value there .... not to mention that The Biggest Reservation - Arnhem Land, where EVERY evil of the Aboriginal culture has thrived for decades now... is some sort of sacred right.... while everyone else's homes and land are up for grabs from a greedy and selfish tiny minority who must be told to STFU and get over it ... I think that about sums it up ... oh - I forgot ... if they want a Homeland it will have to be self-funding.. so let's make all their New Reservations self-funding in entirety ... that'll bring 'em into the 21st Century ...

I didn't bother - it never crossed my mind. I don't like Sad RooSack ..but

I couldn't be bothered taking the time to be slyly inserting extra text into some ones post just so I can reply on that issue.

Even typing it in a fashion to pretend greater intellectual use of language - FFS Roll Eyes

A post was there with that text in it - I responded to that - end of.

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Re: Yolŋu people celebrate 50 years of the homelands
Reply #103 - Yesterday at 11:06am

Gnads wrote Yesterday at 10:52am:

You're the so called expert - you tell me?

The evidence available to anyone without Mod-level access points straight to you as the one who modified the quote.

Only you know whether it was deliberate or some "accident."

It looks deliberate, especially since you replied directly to the changes, but I'm sure you'll just deny it and call me names again…

Seems like quote modifying it now fair game, thanks to you.

Just abuse the person whose quote was modified until they give in, the mods will turn a blind eye to it, badabing, badaboom.

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Re: Yolŋu people celebrate 50 years of the homelands
Reply #104 - Yesterday at 11:09am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote Yesterday at 10:47am:

Going on and on about this silly thing is meaningless - get with the issues.... we all know the game so just learn to stop playing it.

A moderator said there was no time edit stamp...

We don't need a moderator to tell us that - just take a look for yourself:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1758339906/34#34

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