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Re: Yolŋu people celebrate 50 years of the homelands
Reply #75 - Sep 30^th, 2025 at 9:18pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 30^th, 2025 at 9:55am:

What you quoted of me, besides the highlight, was modified from the original to include Iryna Zarutska, which you also highlighted.

It was never present in my original post.

My original post was not modified before or after you quoted it, as evidenced by there being no edited message.

There is no edit message for an edit within something like 5 minutes of the original post. It doesn't prove what you think it does.

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Re: Yolŋu people celebrate 50 years of the homelands
Reply #76 - Yesterday at 12:59am

So much kerfuffle over suggesting they run Maverick style hunts to get a few bucks in for The Homeland they demanded as part of their settlement of their Voice putsch. They demanded Apartheid; they demand segregation and their own 'law' and everything; they demand their own state - I'm just being nice and offering them what they think they are entitled to.... on the condition that they take it once and for all and live their way, bro... without our input to distress them ....

It was only an idea about the Maverick hunts- the autistic Kanga missed the 'maybe'.... but if you reckon they don't need the cash flow - OK - they'll just have to get by earning the traditional way.

Now what about those blokes over WA who made grind stones and dishes and then carried them hundreds of miles to trade for fish on the coast? That makes a lot of sense... sort of another Pascoe type fable.... HTF do you carry fish back hundreds of miles to the inland tribe in the heat? They must have done it at night...

I wonder if The Homeland will turn into another Gaza Strip one day? We've already got the Gaga Strip down Canberra - the ACT ... I can foresee the Homeland Abos thinking they was robbed of their land and waging war on Istralia.... throwing spears over the border daily... suicide boomerang attacks on civilians ... roadside rock bombs .... I heard one in Redfern tried to blow up a bus but burnt his lips on the exhaust... but that might have been a tranny Hamas supporter....

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Re: Yolŋu people celebrate 50 years of the homelands
Reply #78 - Yesterday at 6:33am

Setanta wrote on Sep 30^th, 2025 at 9:18pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 30^th, 2025 at 9:55am:

What you quoted of me, besides the highlight, was modified from the original to include Iryna Zarutska, which you also highlighted.

It was never present in my original post.

My original post was not modified before or after you quoted it, as evidenced by there being no edited message.

There is no edit message for an edit within something like 5 minutes of the original post. It doesn't prove what you think it does.

Correct.

But he replied to my post more than 2 days after it was made.

Original Post: Sep 24th, 2025 at 11:02am
Gnads reply: Sep 26th, 2025 at 6:53pm

If we factor in the 5 minutes of updates without a message, another 3,346 minutes had passed before he replied. If my post had been changed after he'd posted his reply, there would have been an edit message. The only way the text of my post within his quote was different to the original was if he edited it before posting in his reply.

It's that simple.

The original post:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 24^th, 2025 at 11:02am:

Is there some sort of link between racism and delusional thinking?

Because the way you lot carry on, it's indistinguishable. You spout lies, get caught out in your own words, get shown evidence that makes it undeniable, yet you still cling to the nonsense like it's sacred scripture.

So I thought I'd humour myself and go look it up, see if anyone had studied this, and sure enough, there's a body of research connecting the dots.

Turns out the same cognitive flaws that underpin delusional ideation, cherry-picking evidence, jumping to conclusions, motivated reasoning, also prop up racist beliefs. Not exactly clinical psychosis, but the thinking patterns overlap.

Which makes sense really.

It's not that you can't see reality, it's that you refuse to, because the facts threaten the little victimhood narrative you've built around your supposed superiority.

And so instead of engaging with the truth, you retreat to schoolyard quips like "You couldn't catch a cold. Roll Eyes

" proving the point better than I ever could.

What he quoted and modified:

Gnads wrote on Sep 26^th, 2025 at 6:53pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 24^th, 2025 at 11:02am:

Because the way you lot carry on, it's indistinguishable. You spout lies, get caught out in your own words, get shown evidence that makes it undeniable, yet you still cling to the nonsense like it's sacred scripture.

So I thought I'd humour myself and go look it up, see if anyone had studied this, and sure enough, there's a body of research connecting the dots.

Turns out the same cognitive flaws that underpin Iryna Zarutska Not exactly clinical psychosis, but the thinking patterns overlap.

Which makes sense really.

It's not that you can't see reality, it's that you refuse to, because the facts threaten the little victimhood narrative you've built around your supposed superiority.

And so instead of engaging with the truth, you retreat to schoolyard quips like "You couldn't catch a cold. Roll Eyes

" proving the point better than I ever could.

He then went onto reply to the line about Iryna Zarutska, which he inserted into my quote, it's not in the original:

Gnads wrote on Sep 26^th, 2025 at 6:53pm:

In your case yes.

Yes you do tell lies.

Iryna Zarutska was murdered by a racist & not one black person surrounding her did a god damned thing because she was white.

You have no grip on the truth, facts or reality.

The only numpties pushing the victimhood narrative ad infinitum are softcock leftists like you.

How the phuk you run a business is beyond comprehension.

If he'd just owned up to what he did and corrected the edit, this wouldn't have been a drama. But instead, he doubled, tripled, even quadrupled down, and then turned abusive, like being called out somehow makes him the victim.

That's rich, especially given all the noise around here about not misquoting people when replying.

But no, that's not how it played out. He got caught out, dug his heels in, and lashed out.

It's all there in black and white. Surely as a mod you can see exactly what's gone on here.

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Re: Yolŋu people celebrate 50 years of the homelands
Reply #79 - Yesterday at 9:27am

ProudKangaroo wrote Yesterday at 6:15am:

Gnads wrote on Sep 30^th, 2025 at 7:43pm:

There is no pretense phukhead. Who ever altered that post knows how to operate above my pay grade.

Get that through your fathead.

Phuk knows - but it wasn't me. Roll Eyes

You couldn't catch a cold & you haven't proven one thing accept your own arrogance.

So a Mod did it?

Phuk knows - but it wasn't me. Roll Eyes

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Re: Yolŋu people celebrate 50 years of the homelands
Reply #80 - Yesterday at 9:32am

ProudKangaroo wrote Yesterday at 6:33am:

Setanta wrote on Sep 30^th, 2025 at 9:18pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 30^th, 2025 at 9:55am:

What you quoted of me, besides the highlight, was modified from the original to include Iryna Zarutska, which you also highlighted.

It was never present in my original post.

My original post was not modified before or after you quoted it, as evidenced by there being no edited message.

There is no edit message for an edit within something like 5 minutes of the original post. It doesn't prove what you think it does.

Correct.

But he replied to my post more than 2 days after it was made.

Original Post: Sep 24th, 2025 at 11:02am
Gnads reply: Sep 26th, 2025 at 6:53pm

If we factor in the 5 minutes of updates without a message, another 3,346 minutes had passed before he replied. If my post had been changed after he'd posted his reply, there would have been an edit message. The only way the text of my post within his quote was different to the original was if he edited it before posting in his reply.

It's that simple.

The original post:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 24^th, 2025 at 11:02am:

Is there some sort of link between racism and delusional thinking?

Because the way you lot carry on, it's indistinguishable. You spout lies, get caught out in your own words, get shown evidence that makes it undeniable, yet you still cling to the nonsense like it's sacred scripture.

So I thought I'd humour myself and go look it up, see if anyone had studied this, and sure enough, there's a body of research connecting the dots.

Turns out the same cognitive flaws that underpin delusional ideation, cherry-picking evidence, jumping to conclusions, motivated reasoning, also prop up racist beliefs. Not exactly clinical psychosis, but the thinking patterns overlap.

Which makes sense really.

It's not that you can't see reality, it's that you refuse to, because the facts threaten the little victimhood narrative you've built around your supposed superiority.

And so instead of engaging with the truth, you retreat to schoolyard quips like "You couldn't catch a cold. Roll Eyes

" proving the point better than I ever could.

What he quoted and modified:

Gnads wrote on Sep 26^th, 2025 at 6:53pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 24^th, 2025 at 11:02am:

Because the way you lot carry on, it's indistinguishable. You spout lies, get caught out in your own words, get shown evidence that makes it undeniable, yet you still cling to the nonsense like it's sacred scripture.

So I thought I'd humour myself and go look it up, see if anyone had studied this, and sure enough, there's a body of research connecting the dots.

Turns out the same cognitive flaws that underpin Iryna Zarutska Not exactly clinical psychosis, but the thinking patterns overlap.

Which makes sense really.

It's not that you can't see reality, it's that you refuse to, because the facts threaten the little victimhood narrative you've built around your supposed superiority.

And so instead of engaging with the truth, you retreat to schoolyard quips like "You couldn't catch a cold. Roll Eyes

" proving the point better than I ever could.

He then went onto reply to the line about Iryna Zarutska, which he inserted into my quote, it's not in the original:

Gnads wrote on Sep 26^th, 2025 at 6:53pm:

In your case yes.

Yes you do tell lies.

Iryna Zarutska was murdered by a racist & not one black person surrounding her did a god damned thing because she was white.

You have no grip on the truth, facts or reality.

The only numpties pushing the victimhood narrative ad infinitum are softcock leftists like you.

How the phuk you run a business is beyond comprehension.

If he'd just owned up to what he did and corrected the edit, this wouldn't have been a drama. But instead, he doubled, tripled, even quadrupled down, and then turned abusive, like being called out somehow makes him the victim.

That's rich, especially given all the noise around here about not misquoting people when replying.

But no, that's not how it played out. He got caught out, dug his heels in, and lashed out.

It's all there in black and white. Surely as a mod you can see exactly what's gone on here.

And I'll continue to quadruple quadruple down because I did not put/add anything into your post that I replied to.

I highlighted what I saw - that's it!!!!!!!!!

I responded to what I highlighted - that's it!!!!!

You're a failed Sherlock Holmes like you're a failure in general.

STFU.

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Re: Yolŋu people celebrate 50 years of the homelands
Reply #81 - Yesterday at 10:18am

Gnads wrote Yesterday at 9:32am:

And I'll continue to quadruple quadruple down because I did not put/add anything into your post that I replied to.

I highlighted what I saw - that's it!!!!!!!!!

I responded to what I highlighted - that's it!!!!!

You're a failed Sherlock Holmes like you're a failure in general.

STFU.

If you're so innocent, don't you think you're overreacting a little?

It's highly unlikely it was just a bug in the forum. And besides, I let you know about the discrepancy well within the window that would allow you to edit your post, and for literal days, you refused to even admit there was a difference and made zero effort to correct the mistake.

Instead, you decided the appropriate response was to abuse me,

Gnads wrote on Sep 28^th, 2025 at 11:08am:

It wasn't modified at all you lying moron.

Gnads wrote on Sep 29^th, 2025 at 1:43pm:

Phuk off - like I said you couldn't catch a cold.

You beat your concave chest all you want but that will only serve to loosen the shyte on your lungs not prove anything.

You have no irrefutable evidence on anything except that you're the type to stoop to the lowest common denominator( as a true sociopath) to bolster a lie.

Gnads wrote on Sep 30^th, 2025 at 12:37pm:

Get phukked.

Gnads wrote on Sep 30^th, 2025 at 7:43pm:

There is no pretense phukhead. Who ever altered that post knows how to operate above my pay grade.

Get that through your fathead.

You couldn't catch a cold & you haven't proven one thing accept your own arrogance.

I'm at a loss as to why you felt compelled to alter my quote when you posted it, but of course, it gave you the perfect pretext to pivot the discussion towards a black man who murdered a white woman in broad daylight. An unforgivable act, no matter who the perpetrator was.

But you expect anyone to swallow that as a mere "happy" coincidence? That's textbook behaviour from your playbook.

If you weren't such a vindictive, insufferable bigot, perhaps you might have been granted the faintest benefit of the doubt, that it was a Mod-driven conspiracy against you, or some random forum glitch.

But no, what occurred just so happened to dovetail precisely with the distraction you wanted to manufacture.

A distraction designed to obscure the context of Grap's reply when he played victim over the concept of a Homeland, where his notion fundamentally differed from that of the Yolŋu people where he called for the entire segregration of all Indigenous people into hermetically sealed enclosures where tickets could be sold to hunt them for sport, while Frank rushed in to white knight, only to step squarely on multiple rakes in the process as usual.

Honestly, how stupid do you think we are? It's insulting that you think we're all as dumb and gullible as your ilk.

I expect you to edit your post, remove the fabricated alterations to my quote, whether by Mod conspiracy, forum bug, or your own handiwork, and issue a proper apology for your lies and abusive behaviour.

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Re: Yolŋu people celebrate 50 years of the homelands
Reply #82 - Yesterday at 10:34am

... and all these years the Abos have decried the reservation system - but they never let go of Arnhem Land .. they love the 'royalties' ... but like children they just don't want to share things with everyone else even when they are a tiny minority and don;t own the land...

.. the reservation system is only good when it suits - and dividing Australia up into a thousand little states totally owned by them is absurd...

You really have to ask what, if anything, is in the 'minds' of anyone who supports such utter insanity .... which will only lead to trouble down the track...

A single proper homeland for them is the only way forward - a two state solution. .. with theirs as far away as possible from the rest of us.

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Reply #83 - Yesterday at 1:15pm

ProudKangaroo wrote Yesterday at 10:18am:

Gnads wrote Yesterday at 9:32am:

And I'll continue to quadruple quadruple down because I did not put/add anything into your post that I replied to.

I highlighted what I saw - that's it!!!!!!!!!

I responded to what I highlighted - that's it!!!!!

You're a failed Sherlock Holmes like you're a failure in general.

STFU.

If you're so innocent, don't you think you're overreacting a little?

It's highly unlikely it was just a bug in the forum. And besides, I let you know about the discrepancy well within the window that would allow you to edit your post, and for literal days, you refused to even admit there was a difference and made zero effort to correct the mistake.

Instead, you decided the appropriate response was to abuse me,

Gnads wrote on Sep 28^th, 2025 at 11:08am:

It wasn't modified at all you lying moron.

Gnads wrote on Sep 29^th, 2025 at 1:43pm:

Phuk off - like I said you couldn't catch a cold.

You beat your concave chest all you want but that will only serve to loosen the shyte on your lungs not prove anything.

You have no irrefutable evidence on anything except that you're the type to stoop to the lowest common denominator( as a true sociopath) to bolster a lie.

Gnads wrote on Sep 30^th, 2025 at 12:37pm:

Get phukked.

Gnads wrote on Sep 30^th, 2025 at 7:43pm:

There is no pretense phukhead. Who ever altered that post knows how to operate above my pay grade.

Get that through your fathead.

You couldn't catch a cold & you haven't proven one thing accept your own arrogance.

I'm at a loss as to why you felt compelled to alter my quote when you posted it, but of course, it gave you the perfect pretext to pivot the discussion towards a black man who murdered a white woman in broad daylight. An unforgivable act, no matter who the perpetrator was.

But you expect anyone to swallow that as a mere "happy" coincidence? That's textbook behaviour from your playbook.

If you weren't such a vindictive, insufferable bigot, perhaps you might have been granted the faintest benefit of the doubt, that it was a Mod-driven conspiracy against you, or some random forum glitch.

But no, what occurred just so happened to dovetail precisely with the distraction you wanted to manufacture.

A distraction designed to obscure the context of Grap's reply when he played victim over the concept of a Homeland, where his notion fundamentally differed from that of the Yolŋu people where he called for the entire segregration of all Indigenous people into hermetically sealed enclosures where tickets could be sold to hunt them for sport, while Frank rushed in to white knight, only to step squarely on multiple rakes in the process as usual.

Honestly, how stupid do you think we are? It's insulting that you think we're all as dumb and gullible as your ilk.

I expect you to edit your post, remove the fabricated alterations to my quote, whether by Mod conspiracy, forum bug, or your own handiwork, and issue a proper apology for your lies and abusive behaviour.

No - because you keep at it that I added the Iryna Zarutska text ... saying I've been caught out, saying I should own it, saying I should apologise etc etc.

If anything you're just being your usual monster hypocrite.

And then you keep going with this -
Quote:

I'm at a loss as to why you felt compelled to alter my quote when you posted it,

For the last time phukhead - I did not alter your post.

It's to the stage where I believe you took(edited) the Iryna Zarutska text out ... just to start this shyte.

So STFU

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Re: Yolŋu people celebrate 50 years of the homelands
Reply #84 - Yesterday at 1:20pm

Gnads wrote Yesterday at 1:15pm:

No - because you keep at it that I added the Iryna Zarutska text ... saying I've been caught out, saying I should own it, saying I should apologise etc etc.

If anything you're just being your usual monster hypocrite.

STFU

Yeah, because it only exists in YOUR post, the one YOU wrote.

Maybe stop doing that if you don't want to get called out about it.

If you want to call me a hypocrite, then you'd better be able to show where I've modified other people's posts, inserting text in quotes that wasn't in the original, like in your post, otherwise, I'd appreciate it if you would correct that lie and apologise for that too.

Edit: Looks like you updated your post after I replied, so I'll address those changes in the next reply.

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Re: Yolŋu people celebrate 50 years of the homelands
Reply #85 - Yesterday at 1:31pm

Gnads wrote Yesterday at 1:15pm:

And then you keep going with this -
Quote:

I'm at a loss as to why you felt compelled to alter my quote when you posted it,

For the last time phukhead - I did not alter your post.

It's to the stage where I believe you took(edited) the Iryna Zarutska text out ... just to start this shyte.

So STFU

A Mod might be able to clear this up, but from where I'm sitting, it's technically impossible for me to change my post without an edit message since you replied to it more than two days after the original. Any changes after you'd already quoted me, if it's even technically possible, would have triggered an edit stamp.

That leaves two explanations. Either a Mod changed my post at the time you quoted it then quietly changed it back to the original to avoid an edit message, or you, without even bothering to fix the grammar, removed parts of my post and inserted the name of the woman who was murdered. You then used that doctored version to derail the discussion into a case of a black man in the US murdering her.

Which of those seems more plausible?

Could you have highlighted my text and accidentally pasted her name in while trying to quote me? Sure, but then you should have replied to the original text, not introduced her name into your reply.

This all feels deliberate and obvious.

I'm not in high school anymore, giving in to shouty tantrums just to keep the peace. I expect you to correct your lies and apologise for your abuse and behaviour around this.

Screaming and carrying on like a teenage girl doesn't absolve you of what you clearly did. Stop being a stubborn coward and own it.

You've been caught red handed.

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Re: Yolŋu people celebrate 50 years of the homelands
Reply #86 - Yesterday at 1:33pm

...and all these years the Abos have been complaining about the Reservation system - Arnhem Land is THE biggest reservation in the land and has all the problems of all the reservations never-ending... I like that movie Wind River but the reality is that in the US most such crimes are Red on Red and not from some random group of White guys....

As for here - all those disappearances and the violence aren't from random White men or White men in general at all:-

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/the-feed/creative/vanished-the-unsolved-cases-of-mis...

Maybe they were sold into sex slavery .... I must get back to my book Outback Rules ©...

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Reply #88 - Yesterday at 2:43pm

John Smith wrote Yesterday at 2:27pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 26^th, 2025 at 6:53pm:

Iryna Zarutska was murdered by a racist & not one black person surrounding her did a god damned thing because she was white.

Whilst the white passengers were to busy recording her for their facebook feed to save her.

As much as this tragedy is a grim distraction, it appears he was either paralysed with shock or incapable of calling for help given her injuries, and within moments, she bled out.

This should never have happened. She fled Ukraine for what she believed would be safety, only to die violently in the supposed "civilised" West.

And let's not pretend this is some isolated misfortune. It's a harbinger of what's coming. As Trump drags the US economy into the gutter, the manufactured government shutdown will become a convenient pretext to strip away even the meagre healthcare protections Americans still cling to. His tariffs and mass deportations will drive up the cost of living and choke food supply chains. What happens when wages stagnate, shelves empty, and basic services collapse? Crime fills the vacuum.

And here's the cruel irony: the very MAGA faithful, white, flag-draped, and deliriously cheering the wrecking ball, will be among those reduced to desperation. They won't even see the connection between their suffering and the man they worship.

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Reply #89 - Yesterday at 2:46pm

ProudKangaroo wrote Yesterday at 2:43pm:

As much as this tragedy is a grim distraction, it appears he was either paralysed with shock or incapable of calling for help given her injuries, and within moments, she bled out.

It was appalling that no one did anything to help. As is Gnads making up excuses as to why the bystanders did nothing.

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