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Re: Yolŋu people celebrate 50 years of the homelands
Reply #30 - Sep 23^rd, 2025 at 7:23am

Frank wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2025 at 3:35am:

Now you are on delusion cam teapot.
I am not pretending anything, silly little pouffe .
You were suddenly "responding" to a 3 year old post from an entirely different discussion.

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1659737931/13#13

Why do you have to be such a bullshit artist, especially when what you're saying is contradicted in the same thread?

I was responding to Grap, referencing his own words and the positions he's pushed on "giving them a homeland", yet here he is crying victim again, as if he never advocated for their segregation and genocide in the first place.

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 21^st, 2025 at 7:09am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 20^th, 2025 at 7:30pm:

Homeland

Yet when I suggest a Homeland all the dork-heads get up in arms.... but if the Abos have it and want it it's golden!!

Because you want to hermitically seal off their homeland, segregate them there and sell tickets to rich people to go in and hunt them.

This is a true and accurate statement, but you have to come in and try to white night for your fellow racist bum chum:

Frank wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2025 at 3:17pm:

You make up crazy crap, teapot, and then fume about it at great hyperbolic length. Ludicrous.

Then after some back and forth, I of course had the receipts to prove I wasn't making anything up, despite your projection, and once I laid them out,

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2025 at 3:28pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 6^th, 2022 at 11:05pm:

Give 'em a homeland - let 'em duke it out..... build a wall around it, have a hermetically sealed tunnel a la Jurassic Park under a sealed clear roof so visitors can travel on electric cars and observe the wildlife in action..... glass tunnel goes around in a huge circle and ends up back at the car park and restaurant.... perhaps down the track boutique hunting trips could be set up and rich pricks come in to shoot one or two as the bag limit states ......

https://donglutsdinosaurs.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Krstolich-postcard-700x...

Check the thread if you want to keep flailing about with cries of "context" and the usual excuses.

Even in full context, it doesn't change a thing. We've been over this a hundred times, he doesn't care, he stands by it, he tries to justify it, and he certainly doesn't deny it.

At this point Frank, you've stepped on so many rakes you could open a Bunnings and fully stock the gardening aisle. You're a walking slapstick routine, except you don't realise you're the punchline.

Rather than accept you were wrong and that I wasn't making anything up, you've shifted the goalposts yet again, this time whining that I replied to something from three years ago.

No, I replied directly to you and your bullshit claim, and instead of showing the slightest shred of good faith, you double down as the same bullshit artist you've always been.

Go open your Bunnings... or maybe I should, so I can start charging you for all the rakes you so eagerly sprint across just to smack yourself in the face.

You must have a humiliation kink, because you literally go out of your way to manufacture it these days.

Nobody is accidentally this inept, this catalogue of self-inflicted disgrace reads as deliberate, not dumb.

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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88688 Proud Old White Australian Man Gender:	Re: Yolŋu people celebrate 50 years of the homelands Reply #31 - Sep 23^rd, 2025 at 11:54am You're praising your wn comment - not commenting on reality.. This one's for you, Ralph ...
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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88688 Proud Old White Australian Man Gender:	Re: Yolŋu people celebrate 50 years of the homelands Reply #32 - Sep 24^th, 2025 at 1:21am You mean like this?
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Re: Yolŋu people celebrate 50 years of the homelands
Reply #33 - Sep 24^th, 2025 at 10:44am

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2025 at 10:24pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2025 at 9:55pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2025 at 5:05pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2025 at 4:27pm:

I can't help noticing that suddenly you are responding to a 3 year old post, made in a different chat, different contexts, different topic.

I can't help but notice that you didn't apologise for your bullshit claim,

Frank wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2025 at 3:17pm:

You make up crazy crap, teapot, and then fume about it at great hyperbolic length. Ludicrous.

At this point I think you have some sort of kink about being proved wrong. The least you could do, instead of changing the goalposts, is have the honesty and decency to apologise, or at the very least correct your false and misleading claim.

If you choose not to, then you'll simply be owning up to yet more lies you have to tell around here because your position is so laughably weak.

Ludicrous fantasy bollocks is correct.

Give it a rest, teapot.

You're so insecure you can't even admit when you've been caught out, let alone correct your post.

What began as a lazy, uninformed guess about reality, based purely on what you wanted to be true, has now, after being shown wrong, mutated into outright lying.

You're knowingly spreading misinformation just to take a cheap shot at another poster.

Pathetic, as always.

At this point I have to wonder, are you even managing to fool yourself anymore?

You couldn't catch a cold. Roll Eyes

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Re: Yolŋu people celebrate 50 years of the homelands
Reply #34 - Sep 24^th, 2025 at 11:02am

Gnads wrote on Sep 24^th, 2025 at 10:44am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2025 at 10:24pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2025 at 9:55pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2025 at 5:05pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2025 at 4:27pm:

I can't help noticing that suddenly you are responding to a 3 year old post, made in a different chat, different contexts, different topic.

I can't help but notice that you didn't apologise for your bullshit claim,

Frank wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2025 at 3:17pm:

You make up crazy crap, teapot, and then fume about it at great hyperbolic length. Ludicrous.

At this point I think you have some sort of kink about being proved wrong. The least you could do, instead of changing the goalposts, is have the honesty and decency to apologise, or at the very least correct your false and misleading claim.

If you choose not to, then you'll simply be owning up to yet more lies you have to tell around here because your position is so laughably weak.

Ludicrous fantasy bollocks is correct.

Give it a rest, teapot.

You're so insecure you can't even admit when you've been caught out, let alone correct your post.

What began as a lazy, uninformed guess about reality, based purely on what you wanted to be true, has now, after being shown wrong, mutated into outright lying.

You're knowingly spreading misinformation just to take a cheap shot at another poster.

Pathetic, as always.

At this point I have to wonder, are you even managing to fool yourself anymore?

You couldn't catch a cold. Roll Eyes

Is there some sort of link between racism and delusional thinking?

Because the way you lot carry on, it's indistinguishable. You spout lies, get caught out in your own words, get shown evidence that makes it undeniable, yet you still cling to the nonsense like it's sacred scripture.

So I thought I'd humour myself and go look it up, see if anyone had studied this, and sure enough, there's a body of research connecting the dots.

Turns out the same cognitive flaws that underpin delusional ideation, cherry-picking evidence, jumping to conclusions, motivated reasoning, also prop up racist beliefs. Not exactly clinical psychosis, but the thinking patterns overlap.

Which makes sense really.

It's not that you can't see reality, it's that you refuse to, because the facts threaten the little victimhood narrative you've built around your supposed superiority.

And so instead of engaging with the truth, you retreat to schoolyard quips like "You couldn't catch a cold. Roll Eyes

" proving the point better than I ever could.

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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88688 Proud Old White Australian Man Gender:	Re: Yolŋu people celebrate 50 years of the homelands Reply #35 - Sep 24^th, 2025 at 11:41am I've seen a lot of rhetoric from the Marsupial - but not much in the way of evidence. Confusion reigns in this one... this is a bit like dividie saying he's 'refuted' something by saying 'It's not'.....
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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88688 Proud Old White Australian Man Gender:	Re: Yolŋu people celebrate 50 years of the homelands Reply #36 - Sep 24^th, 2025 at 11:50am Are these people celebrating their 100+ years of homelands they built - now THIS is racism:-
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Re: Yolŋu people celebrate 50 years of the homelands
Reply #37 - Sep 24^th, 2025 at 1:25pm

You ever actually accept any of the evidence I post, no, and deliberatly so in order to make this claim...

Preferring your delusional worldview over reality doesn't mean nobody has presented you with facts. The real problem is your standard for what counts as evidence: if it doesn't align with what you already believe, it's dismissed as illegitimate. We'll never make progress if you keep operating that way.

And before you play the victim, yes, I have accepted evidence you've posted before, for example crime statistics. The numbers themselves were accuratem, it's the conclusions you draw from them that were often faulty. That doesn't make your evidence wrong, it just means, in those cases, it failed to support your argument.

This is a recurring pattern with us, and you don't seem bothered by it. That total lack of good faith, unsurprising given the views you espouse, makes meaningful discussion on this and practically every other topic almost impossible.

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Re: Yolŋu people celebrate 50 years of the homelands
Reply #39 - Sep 25^th, 2025 at 11:17pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 24^th, 2025 at 1:25pm:

You ever actually accept any of the evidence I post, no, and deliberatly so in order to make this claim...

Preferring your delusional worldview over reality doesn't mean nobody has presented you with facts. The real problem is your standard for what counts as evidence: if it doesn't align with what you already believe, it's dismissed as illegitimate. We'll never make progress if you keep operating that way.

And before you play the victim, yes, I have accepted evidence you've posted before, for example crime statistics. The numbers themselves were accuratem, it's the conclusions you draw from them that were often faulty. That doesn't make your evidence wrong, it just means, in those cases, it failed to support your argument.

This is a recurring pattern with us, and you don't seem bothered by it. That total lack of good faith, unsurprising given the views you espouse, makes meaningful discussion on this and practically every other topic almost impossible.

You need to clarify your thinking. Wrong on every count. I've never seen you post evidence - only emotional ad homs and other nonsense to divert yourself away from the issues so you can remain in what you perceive as your 'safe space'.

Now don't persist with the silly ad homs to try to make people feel guilty for advocating reality. You really need to be properly trained in reality and effective discussion as opposed to trying to dog whistle all the time.

Sadly - you have suffered the same disaster as your parents did... one a learned behaviour disaster - the other a Stockholm Syndrome as a result.

Now then - what about that blatant racism in Toobeah?

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Re: Yolŋu people celebrate 50 years of the homelands
Reply #40 - Sep 25^th, 2025 at 11:23pm

The modern day Yolnju people have never been out of their Homeland - the nation in which they now live and from which they derive benefit far in excess of what their old culture would have produced for them.

It they choose to view some other area as their Homeland - they are welcome to reject all benefits accruing from the modern nation ... the Last Nation they will ever have.

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Re: Yolŋu people celebrate 50 years of the homelands
Reply #42 - Sep 26^th, 2025 at 6:53pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 24^th, 2025 at 11:02am:

Gnads wrote on Sep 24^th, 2025 at 10:44am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2025 at 10:24pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2025 at 9:55pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2025 at 5:05pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2025 at 4:27pm:

I can't help noticing that suddenly you are responding to a 3 year old post, made in a different chat, different contexts, different topic.

I can't help but notice that you didn't apologise for your bullshit claim,

Frank wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2025 at 3:17pm:

You make up crazy crap, teapot, and then fume about it at great hyperbolic length. Ludicrous.

At this point I think you have some sort of kink about being proved wrong. The least you could do, instead of changing the goalposts, is have the honesty and decency to apologise, or at the very least correct your false and misleading claim.

If you choose not to, then you'll simply be owning up to yet more lies you have to tell around here because your position is so laughably weak.

Ludicrous fantasy bollocks is correct.

Give it a rest, teapot.

You're so insecure you can't even admit when you've been caught out, let alone correct your post.

What began as a lazy, uninformed guess about reality, based purely on what you wanted to be true, has now, after being shown wrong, mutated into outright lying.

You're knowingly spreading misinformation just to take a cheap shot at another poster.

Pathetic, as always.

At this point I have to wonder, are you even managing to fool yourself anymore?

You couldn't catch a cold. Roll Eyes

Is there some sort of link between racism and delusional thinking?

Because the way you lot carry on, it's indistinguishable. You spout lies, get caught out in your own words, get shown evidence that makes it undeniable, yet you still cling to the nonsense like it's sacred scripture.

So I thought I'd humour myself and go look it up, see if anyone had studied this, and sure enough, there's a body of research connecting the dots.

Turns out the same cognitive flaws that underpin Iryna Zarutska Not exactly clinical psychosis, but the thinking patterns overlap.

Which makes sense really.

It's not that you can't see reality, it's that you refuse to, because the facts threaten the little victimhood narrative you've built around your supposed superiority.

And so instead of engaging with the truth, you retreat to schoolyard quips like "You couldn't catch a cold. Roll Eyes

" proving the point better than I ever could.

In your case yes.

Yes you do tell lies.

Iryna Zarutska was murdered by a racist & not one black person surrounding her did a god damned thing because she was white.

You have no grip on the truth, facts or reality.

The only numpties pushing the victimhood narrative ad infinitum are softcock leftists like you.

How the phuk you run a business is beyond comprehension.

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Re: Yolŋu people celebrate 50 years of the homelands
Reply #44 - Sep 27^th, 2025 at 10:46am

ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 27^th, 2025 at 10:15am:

Did you just modify my quote to have something to argue against?

Bottom of the barrel stuff there haha...

Way to prove my point about your lies.

Does it look like I modified anything you wrote?

All I did was highlight parts of your quote - it's all there as you posted it.

It's you lefty twerps who edit/modify peoples posts to use them in another context.
Try again Roo Sack

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