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Reply #15 - Sep 21st, 2025 at 6:28pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 21st, 2025 at 6:23pm:
I think it's time to change the culture of high tech companies.
No one should eligible to be the CEO of a company like Optus unless
they are a competent communications engineer -
so that they fully understand the technical side of the business and
can therefore ask the right questions to all the engineers.

Instead they put glorified accountants and MBA degree people in charge
who only understand money.


But Bobby, Optus is about making money - it's not about communications.
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Reply #16 - Sep 21st, 2025 at 6:36pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 21st, 2025 at 6:28pm:
But Bobby, Optus is about making money - it's not about communications.



But that culture has to change.
The Govt. has to get involved to force the changes by law as they will not
be implemented from big business.

Optus chief executive Stephen Rue was simply not qualified
to run a communications business that can cause loss of life if it fails.
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Reply #17 - Sep 21st, 2025 at 11:27pm
 
So - what will happen?

A new Optus CEO to appease the public and pull the whole we are fixing it thing again?

Just like the last time:
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previous Optus CEO Kelly Bayer Rosmarin departed in the wake
of a 2023 outage controversy.


Like changing the deck chairs on the Titanic.   Roll Eyes


So – Optus had a huge technical problem in 2023 so
they hired an accountant to fix it.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #18 - Sep 22nd, 2025 at 9:08am
 
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-22/federal-politics-live-blog-september-22/1...



1h ago

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese says he would be "surprised" if Optus chief executive Stephen Rue
was not considering his position after the telco's latest triple-0 failure.


20m ago

'Optus will be held to account': Communications minister

Communications Minister Anika Wells says people have a right to "feel livid" following the latest Optus triple-0 outage.

"Our focus is on getting to the bottom of what went wrong," she tells reporters in Brisbane.

"But Optus will be held to account.

"I will say it again for the people whose confidence must be shaken by what has come to light since late Friday afternoon, this is not good enough and it seems that Optus was told about this issue and did not act, which is not good enough."

She says the incident is now being investigated by the Australian Communications and Media Authority.

"Optus and all telecommunications providers have obligations under Australian law to make sure emergency services calls go through," Wells adds.


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Reply #19 - Sep 22nd, 2025 at 7:50pm
 

People should be told what to do if they can't get through on 000.

One way is to get on Google and find the phone number for either
the local police station or fire brigade and call them -
they can take it from there.
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Reply #20 - Sep 23rd, 2025 at 7:00pm
 

Faster method?

People need to find out the phone number of their local cop shop
and fire brigade and store those in their list of numbers on their mobile phone.
Then they have other options that are fast and immediate if 000 fails.

Maybe there needs to be an advertising campaign by Optus or the Govt
to encourage people to do that?
It would save lives.
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Reply #21 - Sep 23rd, 2025 at 8:37pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 23rd, 2025 at 7:00pm:
Faster method?

People need to find out the phone number of their local cop shop


There aren't any manned, local cop shops any more Bobby.

Gil Tucker and Paula Duncan aren't coming to your rescue.


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Reply #22 - Sep 23rd, 2025 at 8:51pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23rd, 2025 at 8:37pm:
Bobby. wrote on Sep 23rd, 2025 at 7:00pm:
Faster method?

People need to find out the phone number of their local cop shop


There aren't any manned, local cop shops any more Bobby.

Gil Tucker and Paula Duncan aren't coming to your rescue.




I'm tough enough to handle emergencies on my own -

but what about little old ladies in distress?

What's their plan?
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Reply #23 - Sep 23rd, 2025 at 10:47pm
 

Someone should be on TV and radio telling us what to do when 000 doesn't work.
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Reply #24 - Sep 24th, 2025 at 5:45pm
 

https://www.accc.gov.au/media-release/federal-court-orders-optus-to-pay-100m-pen...



Federal Court orders Optus to pay $100m penalty for unconscionable conduct


24 September 2025

Optus Mobile Pty Ltd (Optus) has today been ordered by the Federal Court to pay a penalty of $100 million for engaging in unconscionable conduct when selling mobile phones and contracts to hundreds of Australians, and subsequent debt collection in a case brought by the ACCC.

The Court has imposed this penalty after Optus admitted it acted unconscionably, in breach of the Australian Consumer Law, and agreed to make joint submissions with the ACCC to the Court that a total penalty of $100 million was appropriate.

In many instances the affected consumers did not want or need, could not use or could not afford the phones and contracts they were sold and, in some cases, consumers were pursued for debts resulting from these sales.

Many of the affected consumers were vulnerable or experiencing disadvantage, such as living with a mental disability, diminished cognitive capacity or learning difficulties, being financially dependent or unemployed, having limited financial literacy or English not being a first language. Many of the consumers were First Nations Australians from regional, remote and very remote parts of Australia.

“Optus’s conduct in this case was truly appalling, and we welcome the substantial penalty imposed by the Court and the deterrence message that it will send,” ACCC Deputy Chair Catriona Lowe said.

“During the course of our investigation we heard from many people who had not only experienced significant financial harm, but also emotional distress and fear after being pursued by debt collectors for long periods.”
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Reply #25 - Sep 24th, 2025 at 5:47pm
 

Unbelievable fine – Optus is really in trouble now.

I am with them – mobile phone and internet 4G modem package -
and they put the monthly price up too without any explanation.
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Reply #26 - Sep 24th, 2025 at 6:02pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 24th, 2025 at 5:47pm:
Unbelievable fine – Optus is really in trouble now.

I am with them – mobile phone and internet 4G modem package -
and they put the monthly price up too without any explanation.


You need an explanation as to why a business puts up its prices?

They want more money, Bobby.

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Reply #27 - Sep 24th, 2025 at 6:15pm
 
I don't like the way I was treated by Optus when I wanted a
new mobile phone in February this year.
I showed them on my old mobile that Officeworks had one for $153 cheaper
and it was only 2 minutes drive away.
They refused to lower their price and tried to get me to sign a contract for their phone
and upsell me another mobile contract that was more expensive.
They didn't listen to me and did all that while they asked me to sit down
and wait for them to sort it all out – wasting 20 minutes of my time.

I said no and walked out on them.
Optus at a shopping center wanted $548 for a mobile .
I picked up the same model at Officeworks for $395.00

I swapped over the SIM card and the SD memory from my old mobile
without any problems – in fact I didn't need the Optus people at all
or their upselling and rip off prices.
That's how they treated me – a loyal customer for 20 years.
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Reply #28 - Sep 24th, 2025 at 6:20pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 24th, 2025 at 6:02pm:
Bobby. wrote on Sep 24th, 2025 at 5:47pm:
Unbelievable fine – Optus is really in trouble now.

I am with them – mobile phone and internet 4G modem package -
and they put the monthly price up too without any explanation.


You need an explanation as to why a business puts up its prices?

They want more money, Bobby.




Yes and see my last post -
when you walk into their shop they see you
as a sucker to rip off and try to upsell you on everything.
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Reply #29 - Sep 24th, 2025 at 6:21pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 24th, 2025 at 6:15pm:
I don't like the way I was treated by Optus when I wanted a
new mobile phone in February this year.
I showed them on my old mobile that Officeworks had one for $152 cheaper
and it was only 2 minutes drive away.
They refused to lower their price and tried to get me to sign a contract for their phone
and upsell me another mobile contract that was more expensive.
They didn't listen to me and did all that while they asked me to sit down
and wait for them to sort it all out – wasting 20 minutes of my time.

I said no and walked out on them.
Optus at a shopping center wanted $548 for a mobile .
I picked up the same model at Officeworks for $395.00

I swapped over the SIM card and the SD memory from my old mobile
without any problems – in fact I didn't need the Optus people at all
or their upselling and rip off prices.
That's how they treated me – a loyal customer for 20 years.


Horrible story, Bobby.

From what you say - and this is only speculation - it seems that Optus is more interested in fleecing their customers as much as they can than they are in providing a pleasant telecommunications experience at a reasonable price with a minimum of fuss.

Sounds silly when you say it out loud.
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