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The AUKUS Submarine Deal
Sep 14^th, 2025 at 9:22am

Albanese government pours $12 billion into expanding AUKUS defence facility near Perth

14 September 2025
ABC News

The AUKUS deal is expected to see nuclear-powered submarines entering service for Australia.

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Prime Minister Anthony Albanese will announce a $12 billion investment in a defence hub to build naval ships and dock nuclear-powered submarines under the AUKUS agreement.

The pledge comes as US media reports Secretary of State Marco Rubio privately reassured Defence Minister Richard Marles the deal would go ahead, despite a Pentagon review into the arrangement.

What's next?
Mr Marles on Sunday said he had been told when the AUKUS review would be finalised, but did not disclose when that would be.

The Albanese government will spend $12 billion on building a submarine and naval shipbuilding facility under AUKUS, as doubts linger over the agreement's future.

For months, the Trump administration has been pressuring Australia to lift defence spending, while the Pentagon reviews AUKUS against Donald Trump's "America First" agenda. Sad

Over the weekend, American media reported that US Secretary of State Marco Rubio had privately reassured Defence Minister Richard Marles the deal would go ahead. Sad

Mr Marles did not explicitly confirm the reports on Sunday, but said he spoke with Mr Rubio about AUKUS during a visit to Washington and "really positive comments" were made.

He also said he had been given a timeline for when the Trump administration's review of the deal would be finalised, but declined to divulge when that would be.

The investment will expand a defence precinct at the Henderson shipyard near Perth.

The government's new multi-billion-dollar funding commitment, to be announced on Sunday, will support the development of a major defence precinct in Henderson, south of Perth.

The funding will go towards construction of surface vessels for the Australian Defence Force, starting with the army's new landing craft.

It will also be used to build docking stations for nuclear-powered submarines, with Australia expecting to receive its first Virginia-class submarine in the 2030s under the AUKUS agreement.

The money will also be spent building maintenance facilities for surface combatant vessels and could help build Australia's future general purpose frigates.

Inside the plan to station US subs near Perth
Photo shows Aerial shot of Rockingham beach, houses, garden island and the causeway to the island.Aerial shot of Rockingham beach, houses, garden island and the causeway to the island.
The head of Australia's submarine agency says planning is so far advanced to settle the American soldiers that quarantine arrangements for their pets are underway.

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese is set to announce the investment in Perth alongside his deputy Mr Marles, Defence Personnel Minister Matt Keogh and Western Australia's Premier Roger Cook.

In a statement, Mr Albanese described the investment as "another way we are delivering record defence funding to bolster Australia's capabilities".

The government estimates the defence precinct in Henderson will cost about $25 billion over a decade. Sad

An $8 billion operation is already underway south of Perth, where five nuclear-powered submarines and more than 1,000 American personnel will soon be based as part of Submarine Rotational Force-West.

USS Minnesota visiting WA
Perth will soon become home for hundreds of American service personnel.

The operation is the first sign of the AUKUS agreement in action, with up to four US Virginia-class submarines and one UK Astute-class submarine rotating through HMAS Stirling for maintenance and repairs from 2027.

The works are expected to entrench US military personnel and defence hardware into WA in a way that will be challenging to undo if the Trump administration loses interest in the security pact.

The Pentagon's review of AUKUS has cast doubt over the White House's support for the agreement.

Mr Marles made a hastily arranged trip to Washington DC last month, where he met with senior Trump administration officials including US Vice-President JD Vance.

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whiteknight Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8762 melbourne Gender:	Re: The AUKUS Submarine Deal Reply #1 - Sep 14^th, 2025 at 9:24am Where's the money coming from?
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Daves2017 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2432 Gender:	Re: The AUKUS Submarine Deal Reply #2 - Sep 14^th, 2025 at 10:25am From us, the taxpayer. Better to build navy bases for America than build housing for Australians.
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Reply #3 - Sep 15^th, 2025 at 10:44am

whiteknight wrote on Sep 14^th, 2025 at 9:22am:

Albanese government pours $12 billion into expanding AUKUS defence facility near Perth

14 September 2025
ABC News

The AUKUS deal is expected to see nuclear-powered submarines entering service for Australia.

In short:
Prime Minister Anthony Albanese will announce a $12 billion investment in a defence hub to build naval ships and dock nuclear-powered submarines under the AUKUS agreement.

The pledge comes as US media reports Secretary of State Marco Rubio privately reassured Defence Minister Richard Marles the deal would go ahead, despite a Pentagon review into the arrangement.

What's next?
Mr Marles on Sunday said he had been told when the AUKUS review would be finalised, but did not disclose when that would be.

The Albanese government will spend $12 billion on building a submarine and naval shipbuilding facility under AUKUS, as doubts linger over the agreement's future.

For months, the Trump administration has been pressuring Australia to lift defence spending, while the Pentagon reviews AUKUS against Donald Trump's "America First" agenda. Sad

Over the weekend, American media reported that US Secretary of State Marco Rubio had privately reassured Defence Minister Richard Marles the deal would go ahead. Sad

Mr Marles did not explicitly confirm the reports on Sunday, but said he spoke with Mr Rubio about AUKUS during a visit to Washington and "really positive comments" were made.

He also said he had been given a timeline for when the Trump administration's review of the deal would be finalised, but declined to divulge when that would be.

The investment will expand a defence precinct at the Henderson shipyard near Perth.

The government's new multi-billion-dollar funding commitment, to be announced on Sunday, will support the development of a major defence precinct in Henderson, south of Perth.

The funding will go towards construction of surface vessels for the Australian Defence Force, starting with the army's new landing craft.

It will also be used to build docking stations for nuclear-powered submarines, with Australia expecting to receive its first Virginia-class submarine in the 2030s under the AUKUS agreement.

The money will also be spent building maintenance facilities for surface combatant vessels and could help build Australia's future general purpose frigates.

Inside the plan to station US subs near Perth
Photo shows Aerial shot of Rockingham beach, houses, garden island and the causeway to the island.Aerial shot of Rockingham beach, houses, garden island and the causeway to the island.
The head of Australia's submarine agency says planning is so far advanced to settle the American soldiers that quarantine arrangements for their pets are underway.

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese is set to announce the investment in Perth alongside his deputy Mr Marles, Defence Personnel Minister Matt Keogh and Western Australia's Premier Roger Cook.

In a statement, Mr Albanese described the investment as "another way we are delivering record defence funding to bolster Australia's capabilities".

The government estimates the defence precinct in Henderson will cost about $25 billion over a decade. Sad

An $8 billion operation is already underway south of Perth, where five nuclear-powered submarines and more than 1,000 American personnel will soon be based as part of Submarine Rotational Force-West.

USS Minnesota visiting WA
Perth will soon become home for hundreds of American service personnel.

The operation is the first sign of the AUKUS agreement in action, with up to four US Virginia-class submarines and one UK Astute-class submarine rotating through HMAS Stirling for maintenance and repairs from 2027.

The works are expected to entrench US military personnel and defence hardware into WA in a way that will be challenging to undo if the Trump administration loses interest in the security pact.

The Pentagon's review of AUKUS has cast doubt over the White House's support for the agreement.

Mr Marles made a hastily arranged trip to Washington DC last month, where he met with senior Trump administration officials including US Vice-President JD Vance.

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Belgarion Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5847 Gender:	Re: The AUKUS Submarine Deal Reply #4 - Sep 15^th, 2025 at 12:28pm AUKUS is a long term project that has been designed to outlast changes of government. If this were not so AnAl, Starmer or Trump would certainly have pulled the pin on it. The politicians will posture and the work will progress steadily in the background.
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Reply #5 - Sep 15^th, 2025 at 5:05pm

Labor's $12 billion for WA Naval Base a tribute payment for Trump Sad

2025-09-15
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Comments attributable to Sophie McNeill MLC, The Greens (WA) spokesperson for AUKUS/ Peace and non-Violence:

"The secret is finally out. The US is being invited to transform Henderson into a key nuclear submarine maintenance hub.

"This is a massive shift from what the community was originally told about AUKUS.

"Now, it’s clear that the Cockburn Sound foreshore is slowly going to become a massive US base, and potentially one of just five facilities worldwide where US nuclear submarines can undergo deep cycle maintenance.

"This looks like it has come out of US demands in their AUKUS review - to which the Albanese government has dutifully obeyed, pandering to the Trump administration's every demand.

"Meanwhile, Western Australians have been left in the dark about what this would mean for nearby residents and for public access to Cockburn Sound.

"Just three weeks ago, I questioned Minister Dawson during budget estimates about whether Henderson would become a maintenance base for US nuclear-powered submarines, and he claimed “no decision has been made by the Commonwealth about what is in that defence precinct.”

"It is time the Cook government came clean about just how much of WA is being handed over to the US military.

"This shock news about Henderson comes as the Australian Submarine Agency are holding “community town halls” in Rockingham and Fremantle this week to try and make it look like they are consulting with the community.

"The reality is the opposite. There is zero indication of what this will mean for the local community regarding safety, public access, and nuclear waste storage at Henderson.

"Enough lies and secrecy.

"Western Australians are being deliberately drip-fed tiny bits of information about AUKUS because both the state and federal government knows the social licence of this project is non-existent."

Comments attributable to Federal Greens Foreign Affairs and Defence Spokesperson Senator David Shoebridge:

“This latest $12 billion AUKUS promise from the Albanese Labor government is designed so the PM has a fresh tribute payment for Trump if they meet next week in New York.

“The timing of this announcement could not be more cynical, or more obviously designed to deliver a military base for the US rather than peace and security for Australia.

“While the $12 billion commitment is a shockingly large amount, the Albanese Government says it really wants to spend $25 billion building AUKUS-related facilities at Henderson over the next decade.

“Because none of this additional funding is contained in this budget or even the forward estimates, what Labor is doing is robbing funding from housing, climate and education from future budgets. That’s an appalling misdirection for our country.

“The Albanese Government has been actively misleading the public about the scale of US military deployments in Australia.

“When it was first announced, Labor claimed Henderson would have no role in the AUKUS nuclear submarine program, but it is now being made a key cog.

“It is the same playbook we saw with their nuclear waste Bill, mislead, gaslight and then steamroll ahead, ignoring the locals.

“AUKUS is an independence firesale, with the Albanese Government putting no limits on the US military’s ambition for our real estate.

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Sir Eoin O Fada Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3015 New England, NSW Gender:	Re: The AUKUS Submarine Deal Reply #6 - Sep 21^st, 2025 at 8:03pm And keep in mind that these submarines are not Nuclear Powered, they are powered by steam. The nuclear reactor boils the water, without steam power the reactor cannot move a thing, unless it explodes. Basically the technology is just the same as a Murray River paddle boat burning wood.
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Reply #7 - Sep 21^st, 2025 at 8:10pm

whiteknight wrote on Sep 15^th, 2025 at 5:05pm:

Labor's $12 billion for WA Naval Base a tribute payment for Trump Sad

2025-09-15
greens.org.au
Comments attributable to Sophie McNeill MLC, The Greens (WA) spokesperson for AUKUS/ Peace and non-Violence:

"The secret is finally out. The US is being invited to transform Henderson into a key nuclear submarine maintenance hub.

"This is a massive shift from what the community was originally told about AUKUS.

"Now, it’s clear that the Cockburn Sound foreshore is slowly going to become a massive US base, and potentially one of just five facilities worldwide where US nuclear submarines can undergo deep cycle maintenance.

"This looks like it has come out of US demands in their AUKUS review - to which the Albanese government has dutifully obeyed, pandering to the Trump administration's every demand.

"Meanwhile, Western Australians have been left in the dark about what this would mean for nearby residents and for public access to Cockburn Sound.

"Just three weeks ago, I questioned Minister Dawson during budget estimates about whether Henderson would become a maintenance base for US nuclear-powered submarines, and he claimed “no decision has been made by the Commonwealth about what is in that defence precinct.”

"It is time the Cook government came clean about just how much of WA is being handed over to the US military.

"This shock news about Henderson comes as the Australian Submarine Agency are holding “community town halls” in Rockingham and Fremantle this week to try and make it look like they are consulting with the community.

"The reality is the opposite. There is zero indication of what this will mean for the local community regarding safety, public access, and nuclear waste storage at Henderson.

"Enough lies and secrecy.

"Western Australians are being deliberately drip-fed tiny bits of information about AUKUS because both the state and federal government knows the social licence of this project is non-existent."

Comments attributable to Federal Greens Foreign Affairs and Defence Spokesperson Senator David Shoebridge:

“This latest $12 billion AUKUS promise from the Albanese Labor government is designed so the PM has a fresh tribute payment for Trump if they meet next week in New York.

“The timing of this announcement could not be more cynical, or more obviously designed to deliver a military base for the US rather than peace and security for Australia.

“While the $12 billion commitment is a shockingly large amount, the Albanese Government says it really wants to spend $25 billion building AUKUS-related facilities at Henderson over the next decade.

“Because none of this additional funding is contained in this budget or even the forward estimates, what Labor is doing is robbing funding from housing, climate and education from future budgets. That’s an appalling misdirection for our country.

“The Albanese Government has been actively misleading the public about the scale of US military deployments in Australia.

“When it was first announced, Labor claimed Henderson would have no role in the AUKUS nuclear submarine program, but it is now being made a key cog.

“It is the same playbook we saw with their nuclear waste Bill, mislead, gaslight and then steamroll ahead, ignoring the locals.

“AUKUS is an independence firesale, with the Albanese Government putting no limits on the US military’s ambition for our real estate.

do you mean they will not consult with the unemployed people with colored hair, horrible eh.

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Lets check in at 5pm on 23rd July 2025 then at 5pm on 30th July

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 112751 Melbourne Gender:	Re: The AUKUS Submarine Deal Reply #8 - Sep 21^st, 2025 at 8:46pm whiteknight wrote on Sep 14^th, 2025 at 9:24am: Where's the money coming from? The RBA will print the money and use it to buy Govt. bonds. That will cause inflation.
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Reply #9 - Yesterday at 10:22am

whiteknight wrote on Sep 15^th, 2025 at 5:05pm:

Labor's $12 billion for WA Naval Base a tribute payment for Trump Sad

2025-09-15
greens.org.au
Comments attributable to Sophie McNeill MLC, The Greens (WA) spokesperson for AUKUS/ Peace and non-Violence:

"The secret is finally out. The US is being invited to transform Henderson into a key nuclear submarine maintenance hub.

"This is a massive shift from what the community was originally told about AUKUS.

"Now, it’s clear that the Cockburn Sound foreshore is slowly going to become a massive US base, and potentially one of just five facilities worldwide where US nuclear submarines can undergo deep cycle maintenance.

"This looks like it has come out of US demands in their AUKUS review - to which the Albanese government has dutifully obeyed, pandering to the Trump administration's every demand.

"Meanwhile, Western Australians have been left in the dark about what this would mean for nearby residents and for public access to Cockburn Sound.

"Just three weeks ago, I questioned Minister Dawson during budget estimates about whether Henderson would become a maintenance base for US nuclear-powered submarines, and he claimed “no decision has been made by the Commonwealth about what is in that defence precinct.”

"It is time the Cook government came clean about just how much of WA is being handed over to the US military.

"This shock news about Henderson comes as the Australian Submarine Agency are holding “community town halls” in Rockingham and Fremantle this week to try and make it look like they are consulting with the community.

"The reality is the opposite. There is zero indication of what this will mean for the local community regarding safety, public access, and nuclear waste storage at Henderson.

"Enough lies and secrecy.

"Western Australians are being deliberately drip-fed tiny bits of information about AUKUS because both the state and federal government knows the social licence of this project is non-existent."

Comments attributable to Federal Greens Foreign Affairs and Defence Spokesperson Senator David Shoebridge:

“This latest $12 billion AUKUS promise from the Albanese Labor government is designed so the PM has a fresh tribute payment for Trump if they meet next week in New York.

“The timing of this announcement could not be more cynical, or more obviously designed to deliver a military base for the US rather than peace and security for Australia.

“While the $12 billion commitment is a shockingly large amount, the Albanese Government says it really wants to spend $25 billion building AUKUS-related facilities at Henderson over the next decade.

“Because none of this additional funding is contained in this budget or even the forward estimates, what Labor is doing is robbing funding from housing, climate and education from future budgets. That’s an appalling misdirection for our country.

“The Albanese Government has been actively misleading the public about the scale of US military deployments in Australia.

“When it was first announced, Labor claimed Henderson would have no role in the AUKUS nuclear submarine program, but it is now being made a key cog.

“It is the same playbook we saw with their nuclear waste Bill, mislead, gaslight and then steamroll ahead, ignoring the locals.

“AUKUS is an independence firesale, with the Albanese Government putting no limits on the US military’s ambition for our real estate.

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Sir Eoin O Fada Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3015 New England, NSW Gender:	Re: The AUKUS Submarine Deal Reply #10 - Yesterday at 5:09pm Look on the bright side, we’re getting the world’s best steam technology; there may be some long term benefits such as modern steam locomotives if the fuel source can be used safely. It’s got to be better than shovelling coal.
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Albo is lining him an absolute beauty , the bloated orange douchebag is furious he supported innocent gazans not getting obliterated... watch this space as orange douchebag will walk right into and cancel aukus and thank bugger good ess for that... nobody sensible should even entertain being aligned with USA whilst that absolute lunatic in charge , warch this space ... it 100% going to happen when his jew masters tell him.what to do

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Reply #12 - Today at 8:56pm

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote Yesterday at 5:09pm:

Look on the bright side, we’re getting the world’s best steam technology; there may be some long term benefits such as modern steam locomotives if the fuel source can be used safely.
It’s got to be better than shovelling coal.

Coal is steam tech too, in fact the original. The fuel in both seems to make people balk.. Coal.. AARGH!!! Nuclear.. aaAARGGHGGHARGH!

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Reply #13 - Today at 11:49pm

Labor majority government wrote Today at 8:50pm:

Albo is lining him an absolute beauty , the bloated orange douchebag is furious he supported innocent gazans not getting obliterated... watch this space as orange douchebag will walk right into and cancel aukus and thank bugger good ess for that... nobody sensible should even entertain being aligned with USA whilst that absolute lunatic in charge , warch this space ... it 100% going to happen when his jew masters tell him.what to do

Well - the thing is - after countless warnings to clear Gaza City and leave it to the 'fighters' - countless Gazans remained there. this was partly because some were shot out of hand for 'collaborating with Israel' - meaning they wanted to take their families out... that has happened over and over during this conflict....

Moral of the story is - never go to a corrupt government for help or assistance.

Now that means there WILL be 'innocent Gazans' (at least you use the correct title for them) there as the assault unfolds - and some of them will be killed ... in which case the blame lies with Hamas for terrorising them into staying to be killed as human shields.

Good thing Israel is toting up the Hamas 'leaders' as they are taken out.....

Anyway - it will be over soon - that phase of the pacification of Gaza.... then the guerrilla phase will begin in earnest with the 'werewolves' striking from the shadows and the ruins...

Now then - will the heroic 150-odd nations send in peacekeepers? Will the UN do the rounds, cap in hand, and ask for peacekeepers? If I were their troops - I'd refuse to go on a suicide mission- on behalf of the very government that has betrayed trust and humanity all in one. Without the big orange man to rely on I doubt they'll do anything but weep crocodile tears again ... and posture again like the clowns they are in reality.... but they'll DO nothing and leave Israel to handle the never-ending war in Gaza.

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