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Charlie Kirk is no hero or martyr
Sep 13th, 2025 at 8:51am
 
I'm going to preface this by saying I do not condone political violence from any side of politics. There should be robust debate, but that's all it should be - an exchange of ideas, not bullets. Charlie Kirk did not deserve to die for his beliefs, nor do his children deserve to grow up without the chance to make memories with their father or his wife with her husband.

Having said that, I am shocked at the level of reverence and the use of the US military members to lift his coffin. This must have most military veterans (past and present) and the families of those who died furious. He was not and never was a member of the US military. He was a community college dropout who was rejected by West Point Military Academy.

He had a history of racism, sexism and bigotry. He said that someone should bail out the person who attacked Nancy Pelosi's husband at their home, calling that person an "amazing patriot". He said the passing of the Civil Rights Act in 1864 was a huge mistake. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 prohibited discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex, or national origin in employment, public facilities, and education, effectively ending the Jim Crow era of legal segregation and discrimination in the United States.

He blamed Jews for ruining American culture and said that gay people are destructive and endorsed having them put to death. He believed that the Second Amendment is worth the cost of some innocent lives. If that isn't ironic in light of recent events, I don't know what is. He said black women like Joy Reid, Sheila Jackson Lee and Michelle Obama only got to where they did due to affirmative action because they don't - in his twisted opinion - have the brain processing power to be taken seriously and that they had stolen a white persons' slot.

He once said, "If I see a black pilot, I'm going to be like, boy I hope he's qualified". He spent his life talking down to immigrants, women, Jews and non-whites only to get killed in one of the whitest places in America while being asked a question about gun control in a country where there are more mass shootings than there are days in the year.

When Melissa Hortman, her husband and their dog were murdered, Charlie Kirk tried to link Governor Walz and other Democrats to the murders. Here's a direct quote from Kirk himself, "I can't stand the word empathy, actually. I think empathy is a made up, new-age term and it does a lot of damage". With that, I'll just say perhaps we shouldn't feel empathy for his death - maybe just for his wife and children. He is no hero. He is no martyr. He is a racist, a sexist and he glorified and celebrated violence against Democrats. Trump said of the Colorado school shooting, "we have to get over it". Charlie Kirk deserves a private burial and then to be forgotten by history.
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Re: Charlie Kirk is no hero or martyr
Reply #1 - Sep 13th, 2025 at 9:57am
 
Trump needs to stop putting this guy on a pedestal.
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Reply #2 - Sep 13th, 2025 at 10:12am
 
Charlie Kirk was a better person than you could ever hope to be. The more you speak ill of the dead the lower you become.
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Reply #3 - Sep 13th, 2025 at 10:22am
 
Leroy wrote on Sep 13th, 2025 at 10:12am:
Charlie Kirk was a better person than you could ever hope to be. The more you speak ill of the dead the lower you become.


Interesting.

I assume you like to praise Hitler then.

After all, you wouldn't want to speak I'll of the dead would you?

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Reply #4 - Sep 13th, 2025 at 10:24am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 13th, 2025 at 9:57am:
Trump needs to stop putting this guy on a pedestal.


Indeed.

Never gonna happen though.

Trump loves trash like Kirk.

Bigots, misogynists, white supremacists - these are Trump's people.

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TDS up close.
Reply #5 - Sep 13th, 2025 at 10:27am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 13th, 2025 at 10:22am:
Leroy wrote on Sep 13th, 2025 at 10:12am:
Charlie Kirk was a better person than you could ever hope to be. The more you speak ill of the dead the lower you become.


Interesting.

I assume you like to praise Hitler then.

After all, you wouldn't want to speak I'll of the dead would you?



Its something someone of your intellect could not understand.
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Reply #6 - Sep 13th, 2025 at 10:31am
 

Leroy's a big Hitler fan.

Didn't see that one coming, but it shouldn't surprise us.
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TDS is real.
Reply #7 - Sep 13th, 2025 at 10:40am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 13th, 2025 at 10:31am:
Leroy's a big Hitler fan.

Didn't see that one coming, but it shouldn't surprise us.


You should have seen it coming, its your MO, we all seen it coming.
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Reply #8 - Sep 13th, 2025 at 10:45am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 13th, 2025 at 8:51am:
Charlie Kirk deserves a private burial and then to be forgotten by history.


Amen to that.
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Re: TDS up close.
Reply #9 - Sep 13th, 2025 at 11:58am
 
Leroy wrote on Sep 13th, 2025 at 10:27am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 13th, 2025 at 10:22am:
Leroy wrote on Sep 13th, 2025 at 10:12am:
Charlie Kirk was a better person than you could ever hope to be. The more you speak ill of the dead the lower you become.


Interesting.

I assume you like to praise Hitler then.

After all, you wouldn't want to speak I'll of the dead would you?



Its something someone of your intellect could not understand.


True. You’d have to be pretty stupid to idolise someone like Hitler, or think Charlie Kirk was a good person.
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Reply #10 - Sep 13th, 2025 at 12:07pm
 
On sep 11 2025 Charlie Kirk was shot and the right went berserk.

Just a day or two earlier a young girl was shot dead and dozens of others injured during a church service. The right reluctantly offered thoughts and prayers.

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Reply #11 - Sep 13th, 2025 at 12:08pm
 

Looks like his wife is dog whistling the violent right-wing mob:

“If you thought that my husband’s mission was powerful before, you have no idea. You have no idea what you just have unleashed across this entire country,” she said.

I feel sorry for those two kids.


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Reply #12 - Sep 13th, 2025 at 4:50pm
 

Charlie Kirk  was a good man -

the good die young -

they shot the messenger.
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Reply #13 - Sep 13th, 2025 at 6:16pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Sep 13th, 2025 at 12:07pm:
On sep 11 2025 Charlie Kirk was shot and the right went berserk.

Just a day or two earlier a young girl was shot dead and dozens of others injured during a church service. The right reluctantly offered thoughts and prayers.



Trump was asked by the press pool at the White House today how he was coping after the death of Kirk. He said he was okay, then he pointed to the trucks delivering building materials for his $200m ballroom and went on to talk about that as if the previous question had never even been asked. Something seriously wrong in his head.
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Re: Charlie Kirk is no hero or martyr
Reply #14 - Sep 13th, 2025 at 6:26pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Sep 13th, 2025 at 12:07pm:
On sep 11 2025 Charlie Kirk was shot and the right went berserk.

Just a day or two earlier a young girl was shot dead and dozens of others injured during a church service. The right reluctantly offered thoughts and prayers.




The right offered thoughts and prayers. The left cheered Kirk's death. Cry
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