Bobby. wrote on Oct 13^th, 2025 at 4:25pm:



Well FD,
did you listen to Daniella Weiss?
She's a highly respected Nobel Peace Prize nominee.


Here again:

freediver wrote on Oct 13^th, 2025 at 9:00pm:

By UN actions, withholding humanitarian funding, imposing financial and political pressure to prevent Arab expulsions, limiting reprisals, and keeping borders from being changed by force.

freediver wrote on Oct 13^th, 2025 at 9:00pm:

By practising productive straight sex. You should try it sometime.

freediver wrote on Oct 14^th, 2025 at 7:09am:

Mind-boggling that a politics forum owner can be this ignorant.

Not only is all this information publicly available, but all Israelis are fully aware of the truth of Israel's coming into existence, warts and all.

However, they justify all Jewish/Zionist/Israeli actions as necessary in the context of Jewish history since the destruction of the 2nd Temple.

Before 1967, Israel's continued existence was far from likely... it had not yet been tested in its ability to defend itself - the only justification for any state's existence, despite one politics forum owner's half-arsed notions.

Israel was wholly dependent on the goodwill of US presidents and their administrations and US allies, as guarantors of Israel's continued viability and existence.

During the years between 1948 and the late 1960s, the US and its allies could impose commanding diplomatic, military and economic pressure on Israel to desist in its ethnic cleansing of its proposed greater Israel.

Israel's borders have remained unconfirmed by Israel to this day for a reason...

Israel 'proper' in the minds of Israelis and diaspora Jews cannot be realised without the complete restoration of the ancient Jewish borders, and the building of the 3rd Temple exactly on the site of both the 1st and 2nd Temples.

This includes, at its most urgent, the annexation of the West Bank (Judaea-Samaria) into Israel, hence the continued expulsion of non-Jewish residents there (including all Christians and Muslims), replacing them with Jewish settlers.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 14^th, 2025 at 9:00am:


Jewdea, eh? How did that name come about?

As for not being tested until 1967 - another load of poppycock.
Israel was attacked immediately upon its proclamation in 1948 and prevailed.

nfreediver wrote on Oct 13^th, 2025 at 12:49pm:


As expected, you continue with your fraudulent debating style.

Hence you ignored the first 2/3 of my previous post, specifically  my request for clarifaction of your comment postulating "the parts of Palestine outside the UN resolution".

Your refusal to clarify the meaning suggests you are recoiling from the truth re Israel's creation. 

As to your question above, I'm here to disabuse ideologues of their delusions:

Yes, as I already inferred with my earlier observation: people don't like their land being confiscated.

Hence the UN should have ensured the necessary conditions existed to allow for the implementation of UN res 181, BEFORE recognizing Israel, as proposed in UN res 181.

That's why a majority of people all around the world are instinctively repelled by Israel's current claims on the Palestinian state which was also proposed by UN res 181.

Frank wrote on Oct 17^th, 2025 at 10:06am:


Stop spread propaganda Israel attacked the Arab states in 1967.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 17^th, 2025 at 10:09am:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War

In the months prior to the outbreak of the Six-Day War in June 1967, tensions again became dangerously heightened: Israel reiterated its post-1956 position that another Egyptian closure of the Straits of Tiran to Israeli shipping would be a definite casus belli. In May 1967, Egyptian president Gamal Abdel Nasser announced that the Straits of Tiran would again be closed to Israeli vessels. He subsequently mobilized the Egyptian military into defensive lines along the border with Israel[37] and ordered the immediate withdrawal of all UNEF personnel.[38][30]