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Re: Israel's right to exist
Reply #180 - Oct 13^th, 2025 at 2:38pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 13^th, 2025 at 1:52pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 13^th, 2025 at 1:50pm:

What colonial project?

The Jewish promised land -

from the Nile to the Euphrates.

The Jews claim all the land from the Euphrates to the Nile.

Evidence:

Jump to 13:28

That's a pretty small colony Bobby. How long do you think the US will take to conquer it?

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Re: Israel's right to exist
Reply #181 - Oct 13^th, 2025 at 2:49pm

freediver wrote on Oct 13^th, 2025 at 2:38pm:

That's a pretty small colony Bobby. How long do you think the US will take to conquer it?

That is a very large colony
Already recently - we've seen Israel take part of Southern Lebanon,
parts of Syria - way past the Golan heights including Syria's highest mountain,
more parts of the West bank and of course all of Gaza.
The Egyptians will have something to say about taking the land all the way to the Nile
and the Iraqis won't be happy about losing all their land to the Euphrates.
The Yanks are already in Iraq with military bases.

The colonial plan is however on track.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51534 At my desk.	Re: Israel's right to exist Reply #182 - Oct 13^th, 2025 at 3:07pm Quote: The colonial plan is however on track. On track for what Bobby? Takeover by 2300?
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Re: Israel's right to exist
Reply #183 - Oct 13^th, 2025 at 3:11pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 13^th, 2025 at 1:52pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 13^th, 2025 at 1:50pm:

What colonial project?

The Jewish promised land -

from the Nile to the Euphrates.

The Jews claim all the land from the Euphrates to the Nile.

Evidence:

Jump to 13:28

Might have listened to more of that if that prat didn't keep being a prat and kept his mouth closed.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 113468 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Israel's right to exist Reply #184 - Oct 13^th, 2025 at 3:21pm freediver wrote on Oct 13^th, 2025 at 3:07pm: Quote: The colonial plan is however on track. On track for what Bobby? Takeover by 2300? Dunno but would you agree that tangible progress has been made in the last 2 years?
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Re: Israel's right to exist
Reply #185 - Oct 13^th, 2025 at 3:26pm

Setanta wrote on Oct 13^th, 2025 at 3:11pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 13^th, 2025 at 1:52pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 13^th, 2025 at 1:50pm:

What colonial project?

The Jewish promised land -

from the Nile to the Euphrates.

The Jews claim all the land from the Euphrates to the Nile.

Evidence:

Jump to 13:28

Might have listened to more of that if that prat didn't keep being a prat and kept his mouth closed.

Well - Daniella Weiss got a Nobel Peace prize nomination -
her views are highly respected.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniella_Weiss

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Re: Israel's right to exist
Reply #186 - Oct 13^th, 2025 at 3:39pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 13^th, 2025 at 3:21pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 13^th, 2025 at 3:07pm:

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The colonial plan is however on track.

On track for what Bobby? Takeover by 2300?

Dunno but would you agree that tangible progress has been made in the last 2 years?

The US has not captured any territory in the last 2 years. Are you confusing them with Russia?

When you say it is "on track," what track are you referring to Bobby?

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Re: Israel's right to exist
Reply #187 - Oct 13^th, 2025 at 3:46pm

freediver wrote on Oct 13^th, 2025 at 3:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 13^th, 2025 at 3:21pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 13^th, 2025 at 3:07pm:

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The colonial plan is however on track.

On track for what Bobby? Takeover by 2300?

Dunno but would you agree that tangible progress has been made in the last 2 years?

The US has not captured any territory in the last 2 years. Are you confusing them with Russia?

When you say it is "on track," what track are you referring to Bobby?

The Jewish promised land -

from the Nile to the Euphrates.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51534 At my desk.	Re: Israel's right to exist Reply #188 - Oct 13^th, 2025 at 4:04pm Can you show us the track on a map Bobby?
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 113468 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Israel's right to exist Reply #189 - Oct 13^th, 2025 at 4:25pm freediver wrote on Oct 13^th, 2025 at 4:04pm: Can you show us the track on a map Bobby? No - I can only go on sketchy advice from people like Daniella Weiss.
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Re: Israel's right to exist
Reply #190 - Oct 13^th, 2025 at 5:11pm

freediver wrote on Oct 12^th, 2025 at 12:08pm:

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Because they kicked Palestinians out of the land now called Israel?

They were free to stay. About 20% of Israel's current population is local Arab Muslims who decided to stay. They now enjoy more rights and freedoms, and more say in the governance of the country than in any other middle eastern or north african country.

The rest were either killed trying to fight the Jews, or left the area because other Muslim countries encouraged them to leave when they were invading, and promised they would receive the Jews' land and property once they had been slaughtered.

As a politics forum owner, you embarrass yourself.

The terms of Israel’s statehood required that all Arabs within the former Jewish enclaves within Palestine and any land tha was subsequently legally annexed by Israel would be recognised as Israeli citizens.

Because of this, Israel attempted to expel by force all Arabs prior to the formal declaration of statehood.

It’s ethnic cleansing was halted by the US before the West Bank could be cleansed.

As for the West Bank, For those who know something of the talmud, would understand that Jews refer to it as Judaea-Samaria - the heartland of the ancient Jewish biblical region. Israeli governments claim it as part of greater Israel without which the state of Israel cannot be complete. Israel regularly expels both Christian and Muslim Arabs and non-Arabs from the region, replacing them with Jewish settlers from around the world including from the US and Australia.

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Re: Israel's right to exist
Reply #191 - Oct 13^th, 2025 at 5:38pm

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Because of this, Israel attempted to expel by force all Arabs prior to the formal declaration of statehood.

So how did they end up with 20% Arab Muslim population, despite the huge influx of Jews from the middle east, north africa, Europe and Russia? And a more than 10X increase in the Arab Muslim population of Israel?

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It’s ethnic cleansing was halted by the US before the West Bank could be cleansed.

How did the US stop it?

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Re: Israel's right to exist
Reply #192 - Oct 13^th, 2025 at 5:39pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 17^th, 2025 at 10:28am:

freediver wrote on Sep 17^th, 2025 at 10:12am:

Ah. So no-one has the right under international law to destroy a state, but a state cannot have the right to exist because that denies other states the right to grant their citizens, under local law, the right to destroy another state?

I see I'm going to have to respond to you as if you were chronologically a teenager.

Freediver is a fool. Does Freediver have the right to be a fool?

If no, then Freediver is a fool de facto.

If yes, by what authority does Freediver have the right to be a fool?

Sorry Meister, I missed you dribbling away here. Can you explain how your argument differs from my summary of it?

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Re: Israel's right to exist
Reply #193 - Oct 13^th, 2025 at 6:46pm

freediver wrote on Oct 13^th, 2025 at 5:39pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 17^th, 2025 at 10:28am:

freediver wrote on Sep 17^th, 2025 at 10:12am:

Ah. So no-one has the right under international law to destroy a state, but a state cannot have the right to exist because that denies other states the right to grant their citizens, under local law, the right to destroy another state?

I see I'm going to have to respond to you as if you were chronologically a teenager.

Freediver is a fool. Does Freediver have the right to be a fool?

If no, then Freediver is a fool de facto.

If yes, by what authority does Freediver have the right to be a fool?

Sorry Meister, I missed you dribbling away here. Can you explain how your argument differs from my summary of it?

Your effete word salad.

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Re: Israel's right to exist
Reply #194 - Oct 13^th, 2025 at 7:00pm

freediver wrote on Oct 13^th, 2025 at 5:38pm:

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Because of this, Israel attempted to expel by force all Arabs prior to the formal declaration of statehood.

So how did they end up with 20% Arab Muslim population, despite the huge influx of Jews from the middle east, north africa, Europe and Russia? And a more than 10X increase in the Arab Muslim population of Israel?

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It’s ethnic cleansing was halted by the US before the West Bank could be cleansed.

How did the US stop it?

http://www.ozpolitic.com/album/forum-attachments/ethnic_cleansing.jpg

Israel is well aware of the impending demographic problem its non-Jewish population poses.

That, and the problem of its growing ultra-orthodox community who do not participate in Israel’s military defence.

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