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Re: Israel's right to exist
Reply #150 - Oct 12^th, 2025 at 5:59am

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 11^th, 2025 at 9:40pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 11^th, 2025 at 4:06pm:

If Israel has a right to exist, then gaza has to be emptied of Palestinians.

legally they don't have that right explained in 1 minute !!

Idiotic explanation.
The League of Nations, like the Ottoman Empire, was defunct by 1948.

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Reply #151 - Oct 12^th, 2025 at 6:09am

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 10^th, 2025 at 8:38am:

freediver wrote on Oct 6^th, 2025 at 10:26am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 5^th, 2025 at 7:07pm:

And Israel is an illegal settler colony Sad

Israel is recognised under international law. Hamas' invasion and taking of hostages was against international law. No-one with an ounce of credibility is saying otherwise.

So is this guy wrong FD ?

RALPHE WILDE
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_AaWacS21M

Yes, he is wrong.
Israel was not the result of the Versailles treaty or the League of Nations, both defunct 1948.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51545 At my desk.	Re: Israel's right to exist Reply #152 - Oct 12^th, 2025 at 8:36am Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 7^th, 2025 at 9:43am: "Israelis have only one right, to pack up their bags and leave Palestine." Why did you post that meme Nail? Because you agree with it? Are you a Muslim? Are you afraid to say whether you agree with your own post?
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Reply #153 - Oct 12^th, 2025 at 10:02am

aquascoot wrote on Oct 11^th, 2025 at 4:53pm:

But you can't have that state right next door.
Palestinians already hated and despised Jews.

Yes, Palestinians hated the confiscation of half of Palestine by Jews, following a UN resolution in 1947.

Now it's up to the UN to enforce UN res 181, and to keep the peace between the ideologues on both sides.

The Arabs accept the 2 state solution, the UN accepts it, Net and his disgusting RW ideologues don't...... does Trump accept it? He has told Net he can't annex Palestinian territory.

Today Steve Witkoff was cheered by a Tel Aviv crowd when he said Trump freed the hostages (expected to happen on Monday), but booed when he praised Net - the crowd knows Net wants to continue the war.

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Now, because Hamas used gazans as human shields, 10's of 1000's of gazans have had a family member killed.
That will amp up the hatred to stratospheric levels for generations.

Only among the extremists; after 8 decades of losing, most want to get on with their lives and prosper in their own state free of oppressive Israeli occupation.

The rich Arab states will have to bear the cost of the reconstruction of Gaza, but the Arabs will be pleased to see the 2 state solution implemented.

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They can't exist anywhere near each other.
Palestinians love death.
They will never stop.

You mean the ideologues on both sides can't live near one another?

Don't judge others by your own deplorable RW "freedom or death" ideology.

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Do YOU think they will stop ?

Yes; people prefer life to death.

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Re: Israel's right to exist
Reply #154 - Oct 12^th, 2025 at 10:05am

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Yes, Palestinians despised the confiscation of half of Palestine by Jews, following a UN resolution in 1947

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Because they are Jews, or because the paperwork wasn't in order?

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Israel can only have a 'right to exist', when the US imposes UN res

Are the any other countries whose right to exist depends on the USA imposing a special UN resolution?

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Reply #155 - Oct 12^th, 2025 at 10:12am

freediver wrote on Oct 12^th, 2025 at 10:05am:

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Yes, Palestinians despised the confiscation of half of Palestine by Jews, following a UN resolution in 1947

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Because they are Jews, or because the paperwork wasn't in order?

No, because people don't like their land being confiscated, do I have to explain this to you?

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"Israel can only have a 'right to exist', when the US imposes UN res 181"

Are the any other countries whose right to exist depends on the USA imposing a special UN resolution?

No.

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Reply #157 - Oct 12^th, 2025 at 10:17am

freediver wrote on Oct 12^th, 2025 at 10:12am:

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Yes, Palestinians despised the confiscation of half of Palestine by Jews, following a UN resolution in 1947.

Because they are Jews, or because the paperwork wasn't in order?

No, because people don't like their land being confiscated, do I have to explain this to you?

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Reply #158 - Oct 12^th, 2025 at 10:20am

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 12^th, 2025 at 10:17am:

freediver wrote on Oct 12^th, 2025 at 10:12am:

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Yes, Palestinians despised the confiscation of half of Palestine by Jews, following a UN resolution in 1947.

Because they are Jews, or because the paperwork wasn't in order?

No, because people don't like their land being confiscated, do I have to explain this to you?

Their land was not confiscated.

Do you think the land would cease to be "confiscated" if the UN resolution was imposed?

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 12^th, 2025 at 10:12am:

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"Israel can only have a 'right to exist', when the US imposes UN res 181"

Are the any other countries whose right to exist depends on the USA imposing a special UN resolution?

No.

Why do you place caveats on Israel's right to exist that you do not place on any other country?

Why do you insist that the USA in particular enforce those caveats?

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Reply #159 - Oct 12^th, 2025 at 10:26am

freediver wrote on Oct 12^th, 2025 at 10:20am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 12^th, 2025 at 10:17am:

freediver wrote on Oct 12^th, 2025 at 10:12am:

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Yes, Palestinians despised the confiscation of half of Palestine by Jews, following a UN resolution in 1947.

Because they are Jews, or because the paperwork wasn't in order?

No, because people don't like their land being confiscated, do I have to explain this to you?

Their land was not confiscated.

The UN voted to partition Palestine in 1947, meaning half the land was to be confiscated. How much of that don't you understand?

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Reply #160 - Oct 12^th, 2025 at 10:39am

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 12^th, 2025 at 10:26am:

The UN voted to partition Palestine in 1947, meaning half the land was to be confiscated. How much of that don't you understand?

So you believe that the Muslims are upset about Israel's existence because the parts of it that are outside of the UN resolution were "confiscated"?

Do you think the land would cease to be "confiscated" if the UN resolution was imposed, and the Muslims would suddenly find Israel's existence acceptable?

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 12^th, 2025 at 10:12am:

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"Israel can only have a 'right to exist', when the US imposes UN res 181"

Are the any other countries whose right to exist depends on the USA imposing a special UN resolution?

No.

Why do you place caveats on Israel's right to exist that you do not place on any other country?

Why do you insist that the USA in particular enforce those caveats?

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Re: Israel's right to exist
Reply #161 - Oct 12^th, 2025 at 11:11am

freediver wrote on Oct 12^th, 2025 at 10:39am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 12^th, 2025 at 10:26am:

The UN voted to partition Palestine in 1947, meaning half the land was to be confiscated. How much of that don't you understand?

So you believe that the Muslims are upset about Israel's existence because the parts of it that are outside of the UN resolution were "confiscated"?

No, on the contrary, your persist with your confusion re the partition and hence confiscation of other peoples' land.

No "parts of Palestine" were "outside the 1947 UN resolution" to partition Palestine.

Do try to argue logically.

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Reply #162 - Oct 12^th, 2025 at 11:18am

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 12^th, 2025 at 11:11am:

freediver wrote on Oct 12^th, 2025 at 10:39am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 12^th, 2025 at 10:26am:

The UN voted to partition Palestine in 1947, meaning half the land was to be confiscated. How much of that don't you understand?

So you believe that the Muslims are upset about Israel's existence because the parts of it that are outside of the UN resolution were "confiscated"?

No, on the contrary, your persist with your confusion re the partition and hence confiscation of other peoples' land.

No "parts of Palestine" were "outside the 1947 UN resolution" to partition Palestine.

Do try to argue logically.

Why do you think the Muslims are upset about Israel's existence?

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Reply #163 - Oct 12^th, 2025 at 12:02pm

freediver wrote on Oct 12^th, 2025 at 11:18am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 12^th, 2025 at 11:11am:

freediver wrote on Oct 12^th, 2025 at 10:39am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 12^th, 2025 at 10:26am:

The UN voted to partition Palestine in 1947, meaning half the land was to be confiscated. How much of that don't you understand?

So you believe that the Muslims are upset about Israel's existence because the parts of it that are outside of the UN resolution were "confiscated"?

No, on the contrary, your persist with your confusion re the partition and hence confiscation of other peoples' land.

No "parts of Palestine" were "outside the 1947 UN resolution" to partition Palestine.

Do try to argue logically.

Why do you think the Muslims are upset about Israel's existence?

I note your refusal to defend your illogical argument "the Muslims are upset about Israel's existence because the parts of it that are outside of the UN resolution were "confiscated".

What are the "parts of Palestine" that are outside the UN resolution?

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Reply #164 - Oct 12^th, 2025 at 12:04pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 12^th, 2025 at 12:02pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 12^th, 2025 at 11:18am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 12^th, 2025 at 11:11am:

freediver wrote on Oct 12^th, 2025 at 10:39am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 12^th, 2025 at 10:26am:

The UN voted to partition Palestine in 1947, meaning half the land was to be confiscated. How much of that don't you understand?

So you believe that the Muslims are upset about Israel's existence because the parts of it that are outside of the UN resolution were "confiscated"?

No, on the contrary, your persist with your confusion re the partition and hence confiscation of other peoples' land.

No "parts of Palestine" were "outside the 1947 UN resolution" to partition Palestine.

Do try to argue logically.

Why do you think the Muslims are upset about Israel's existence?

I note your refusal to defend your illogical argument "the Muslims are upset about Israel's existence because the parts of it that are outside of the UN resolution were "confiscated".

What are the "parts of Palestine" that are outside the UN resolution?

That was not my argument.

Why do you think the Muslims are upset about Israel's existence?

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