“By what authority am I called hither? I would know by what lawful authority” – Charles I to Parliament.

Rights are bestowed/granted by a higher authority. In the case of the individual, the state grants a right.

States sometimes go further in their respective constitutions by claiming the individual has inalienable rights – as with the US Constitution – by which it asserts that these rights are ‘god-given’ – effectively sacralising the individual, even above the state, in which even the US Constitution (or Declaration of Independence) do not sacralise – i.e. they do not assert that the state has a right to exist.

The claim that Israel has a right to exist – popularised in the 1950s and cynically exploited by Kissinger in the 70s – was and is an attempt to assert that Israel’s existence is sacral and that Israel is, therefore, a sacralised state, in the way that Iran’s government claims of itself.

freediver wrote on Sep 17^th, 2025 at 8:25am:

Yes, you keep saying, “people are saying that Ukraine has a right to exist… almost as if that means something in local and international law.

What you have posted here about Kurdistan is that its non-existence is an accident… if so, then as accidents require a responsible party to rectify them, by your standards, Kurdistan must exist.

There is no right to exist.
I look at a Gully that's been burnt and there are plants saplings shrubs all vying to exist.
Who gets to exist?
The strongest.

Now tribes have always been forming alliances.
A big tribe like France or prussia might have been aligned dozens of times with other tribes it later was at war at.
Jerusalem has been conquered 47 times.

The yanks fought the japs. Now they are allies.


Does Ukraine get to exist.
Depends on who will defend it.
Does Palestine get to exist .
Depends on who will defend it.

Don't be thinking the UN are going to cone fight for you.
They couldn't organise a good Christmas card.

Is China safe .
Yep.  Patriotic.
Is Russia safe?
Yep. Nukes.
Is Australia safe?
Is Europe safe?

Only to the extent they aren't punk ass bitches and pussies.
USA aren't coming to rescue anyone.

Would Aussies take up against an invading force.
Some would.
John Howard sort of disarmed society.
I think covid shows most people would just want comfort and safety.
If China landed 1 million troops at Darwin, I think the current crop of lilly livered soft cocks would just hand the country over.

You think Trump would come rescue you ?
He would do a deal that puts USA first.
Who else ?
New Zealand 

It's dawning on leaders that this is now the law of the jungle.

Best bet

Be one of those trees that just dominates.
If you are a pathetic useless snivelling weed. You kind a deserved to perish.

Mother nature will not tolerate weakness.
And Europe Australia NZ ...we are freaking weak pussies

If the law does not mention your right to life, but only uses terms like murder and manslaughter, does that mean the law does not recognise your right to life?

freediver wrote on Sep 17^th, 2025 at 9:01am:

The right all states claim for themselves is that of capital punishment.

Could that be possible if the state recognised an individual's absolute right to life?

Could euthanasia be morally justifiable?

freediver wrote on Sep 17^th, 2025 at 9:15am:

Have you ever debated publicly?

States, being sovereign, determine when a 'right' it grants to an individual is 'inalienable' and when it is not - what state's giveth, states can taketh away.

To demand that a state has a right to exist is to demand that the opposing state(s) cede that sovereignty, which is why the Arab states refused to accede to Kissinger's demands.

Kissinger, like all diplomats, of course, knew that they could not, nor would they, make that accession, seeing it rightly for what it was: Kissinger's attempt to establish Israel's 'god-given' right to exist, and bring the debate into the metaphysical.

freediver wrote on Sep 17^th, 2025 at 9:31am:

My argument is that no state grants individuals the right to destroy a state it recognises against the will of the aggressor state.

States exist de facto, not by right... something the Arab states were willing to acknowledge about Israel, to progress the two-state solution.

Kissinger rejected their offer.