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Re: Israel bombs Qatar
Reply #45 - Sep 11^th, 2025 at 10:44am

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The contemptible 'chosen people ' and 'promised land' mythology is as responsible for the failure to achieve a peace settlement as any Muslim fundamentalism.

The Muslims are ideologically committed to destroying Israel. But not vice versa. In fact, Israel has created a beacon of freedom and democracy in one of the most backwards and hostile places on earth. In doing so, they have granted local Arab Muslims, roughly 20% of their population, more rights and freedoms than in any other middle eastern or north african country. They would happily live side by side with free, democratic, prosperous Muslim-majority nations. But when those Muslims were given a vote, they voted for war.

That's why even Muslim leaders are now blaming Hamas for the ongoing conflict, not Israel.

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Reply #46 - Sep 11^th, 2025 at 10:54am

Leroy wrote on Sep 10^th, 2025 at 5:57pm:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 10^th, 2025 at 3:52pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 10^th, 2025 at 3:49pm:

Do you deny Israel's right to exist?

No I just don't support Israel's right to indiscriminately blow up anyone they don't like.

What do you think is the right outcome for Palestinians who attacked and killed Israeli's and have innocent hostages. What do you want to see happen to them and how would you achieve that?.

Never claimed to have all the answers but I don't believe that killing approaching 100,000 innocent Palestinians or bombing innocent citizens of Qatar is any part of the answer.

All I see that Net N Yahoo has achieved is a guarantee of another 5 generations of conflict - killing and death as far as the eye can see.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 112801 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Israel bombs Qatar Reply #47 - Sep 11^th, 2025 at 12:34pm The Jews even murdered people in Qatar - they are a rogue nation. The United Nations needs to stop them or they'll cause WW3.
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Re: Israel bombs Qatar
Reply #48 - Sep 11^th, 2025 at 3:58pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 11^th, 2025 at 12:34pm:

The Jews even murdered people in Qatar - they are a rogue nation.

The United Nations needs to stop them or they'll cause WW3.

With Trump's help (along with his BFF, Putin), that's very likely.

Since Trump - "the candidate for peace" - entered the White House, the world has got much, much closer to WWIII.

It appears that Trump actually wants it to happen.

I suspect his sons (and the repugnant daughter) have a lot of money invested in the companies that will profit the most from war.

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Re: Israel bombs Qatar
Reply #49 - Sep 11^th, 2025 at 4:28pm

freediver wrote on Sep 11^th, 2025 at 10:44am:

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The contemptible 'chosen people ' and 'promised land' mythology is as responsible for the failure to achieve a peace settlement as any Muslim fundamentalism.

The Muslims are ideologically committed to destroying Israel. But not vice versa. In fact, Israel has created a beacon of freedom and democracy in one of the most backwards and hostile places on earth. In doing so, they have granted local Arab Muslims, roughly 20% of their population, more rights and freedoms than in any other middle eastern or north african country. They would happily live side by side with free, democratic, prosperous Muslim-majority nations. But when those Muslims were given a vote, they voted for war.

Yet the powerful "chosen people/promised land " ideologues - who even murdered their own peacemaking PM Rabin during the Oslo peace process, will NEVER accept UN res 181; they will always ensure a peace agreement is never achieved.

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That's why even Muslim leaders are now blaming Hamas for the ongoing conflict, not Israel.

Yes, moderate Muslims (and states) - unlike Hamas, have finally accepted they can't remove Israel from the ME.

But now fundamenalist Jews have captured the Isreali government, thereby ruling out a Palestinian state.

Trump's bromance with the Saudis and other Muslims states is in peril.

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Re: Israel bombs Qatar
Reply #50 - Sep 11^th, 2025 at 4:59pm

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/09/10/middleeast/qatar-prime-minister-israel-strike...

In exclusive CNN interview, Qatari prime minister says Netanyahu
‘killed any hope’ for Israeli hostages

9 hr ago

Qatar’s prime minister excoriated Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in an exclusive interview with CNN on Wednesday, calling Israel’s attempted assassination of Hamas leaders in Doha “barbaric.”

“We were thinking that we are dealing with civilized people,” Qatari Prime Minister Sheikh Mohammed bin Abdulrahman bin Jassim Al-Thani told CNN’s Becky Anderson. “That’s the way we are dealing with others. And the action that (Netanyahu) took – I cannot describe it, but it’s a barbaric action.”

Al-Thani added that he believes Israel’s strike on Doha on Tuesday “killed any hope” for the hostages remaining in Gaza.

“I was meeting one of the hostage’s families the morning of the attack,” Al-Thani said. “They are counting on this (ceasefire) mediation, they have no other hope for that.”

“I think that what Netanyahu has done yesterday, he just killed any hope for those hostages,” the prime minister said.

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Re: Israel bombs Qatar
Reply #51 - Sep 11^th, 2025 at 8:24pm

freediver wrote on Sep 11^th, 2025 at 10:44am:

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The contemptible 'chosen people ' and 'promised land' mythology is as responsible for the failure to achieve a peace settlement as any Muslim fundamentalism.

The Muslims are ideologically committed to destroying Israel. But not vice versa. In fact, Israel has created a beacon of freedom and democracy in one of the most backwards and hostile places on earth. In doing so, they have granted local Arab Muslims, roughly 20% of their population, more rights and freedoms than in any other middle eastern or north african country. They would happily live side by side with free, democratic, prosperous Muslim-majority nations. But when those Muslims were given a vote, they voted for war.

That's why even Muslim leaders are now blaming Hamas for the ongoing conflict, not Israel.

Not according to this Palestinian !

Are You Saying Israel Is An Apartheid State?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/P3SMahDtp0o

Dave Smith Exposes the Collapse of the Pro-Israel Narrative!

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9pB14c9c6t8

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"All of the arab states have said we will have peace with Israel when there is a state of Palestine as a UN member state and properly constituted." - Jeffrey Sachs.

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tickleandrose Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4186 Gender:	Re: Israel bombs Qatar Reply #52 - Sep 11^th, 2025 at 9:57pm The greater issue here is about the supposed security guarantee that US give to its allies. It seemed that if its Israel bombing you, then there is no security guarantee.
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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 19688 Gender:	Re: Israel bombs Qatar Reply #53 - Sep 11^th, 2025 at 11:09pm Nobody said anything when Obama sent military into Pakistan to kill Bin Laden. Leftists are only upset when Jews kill Islamic terrorists. Moderate muslims say Hamas are Islamic terrorists leftists ignore them and side with Islamic terrorists.
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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88646 Proud Old White Australian Man Gender:	Re: Israel bombs Qatar Reply #54 - Sep 12^th, 2025 at 1:44am tickleandrose wrote on Sep 11^th, 2025 at 9:57pm: The greater issue here is about the supposed security guarantee that US give to its allies. It seemed that if its Israel bombing you, then there is no security guarantee. Qatar aided the strikes .. showed them where to hit...
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Re: Israel bombs Qatar
Reply #55 - Sep 14^th, 2025 at 11:06pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 12^th, 2025 at 1:44am:

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 11^th, 2025 at 9:57pm:

The greater issue here is about the supposed security guarantee that US give to its allies. It seemed that if its Israel bombing you, then there is no security guarantee.

Qatar aided the strikes .. showed them where to hit...

Why was there a RAF refuelling plane circling Qatar at the time of the Israeli attack?

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"All of the arab states have said we will have peace with Israel when there is a state of Palestine as a UN member state and properly constituted." - Jeffrey Sachs.

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Re: Israel bombs Qatar
Reply #56 - Sep 14^th, 2025 at 11:48pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 14^th, 2025 at 11:06pm:

Why was there a RAF refuelling plane circling Qatar at the time of the Israeli attack?

RAF use Al Udeid Air Base in Qatar they refuel UK and Nato planes.

Refuelling after takeoff gives them more range afterburners used in takeoff guzzle the fuel.

Did anyone see funeral in Qatar with 5 coffins draped in Palestine flags after IDF bombed Hamas leaders?

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Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.

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Re: Israel bombs Qatar
Reply #57 - Sep 15^th, 2025 at 11:07am

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 14^th, 2025 at 11:48pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 14^th, 2025 at 11:06pm:

Why was there a RAF refuelling plane circling Qatar at the time of the Israeli attack?

RAF use Al Udeid Air Base in Qatar they refuel UK and Nato planes.

Refuelling after takeoff gives them more range afterburners used in takeoff guzzle the fuel.

Did anyone see funeral in Qatar with 5 coffins draped in Palestine flags after IDF bombed Hamas leaders?

And IDF planes ?? No comment from Keir Starmner about this clandestine operation Sad

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"All of the arab states have said we will have peace with Israel when there is a state of Palestine as a UN member state and properly constituted." - Jeffrey Sachs.

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Re: Israel bombs Qatar
Reply #58 - Sep 15^th, 2025 at 3:10pm

freediver wrote on Sep 11^th, 2025 at 10:44am:

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The contemptible 'chosen people ' and 'promised land' mythology is as responsible for the failure to achieve a peace settlement as any Muslim fundamentalism.

The Muslims are ideologically committed to destroying Israel. But not vice versa. In fact, Israel has created a beacon of freedom and democracy in one of the most backwards and hostile places on earth. In doing so, they have granted local Arab Muslims, roughly 20% of their population, more rights and freedoms than in any other middle eastern or north african country. They would happily live side by side with free, democratic, prosperous Muslim-majority nations. But when those Muslims were given a vote, they voted for war.

That's why even Muslim leaders are now blaming Hamas for the ongoing conflict, not Israel.

NOT vice versa?

Bombing of civilians in Gaza

Killing of West Bank arabs and theft of their land?

How much of Israel is Arab land stolen from the inhabitants who were driven into the Gaza strip or elsewhere?

Even “Exodus” by Leon Uris, a propaganda tract for Israel, states Palestinians were driven or scared from their homes? Israel is a pirate state.

Zionism = fascism

I am part Jewish but I REALLY hate fascism and that is what I see in action in Gaza AND the West Bank!

I have nothing but admiration for a people kicked out of their land by the Romans who kept their identity and faith for 2000 years. I like stiff-necked bastards, admire them!

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