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Re: Israel bombs Qatar
Reply #30 - Sep 10^th, 2025 at 3:56pm

Dnarever wrote on Sep 10^th, 2025 at 3:52pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 10^th, 2025 at 3:49pm:

Do you deny Israel's right to exist?

No I just don't support Israel's right to indiscriminately blow up anyone they don't like.

Well congratulations for giving a straight answer. I think you are the first.

Now, on the issue of self defence, you would have a point if Israel was only imagining that Hamas was getting on top of residential buildings and lobbing rockets over the border. They are not imagining it. Hamas and their predecessors have been waging a war against Israel for generations, and they have always done so while hiding behind their mothers skirts, then crying foul whenever their mothers turn into red mist.

They do not wage this war for anything that passes for justice among the sane, they wage it because it is a religious imperative. The existence of Israel offends their religious beliefs, and their religious belief is that they are required to impose Islam on everyone by whatever means are available, just like Muhammad did.

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Reply #31 - Sep 10^th, 2025 at 4:17pm

Dnarever wrote on Sep 10^th, 2025 at 3:43pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 10^th, 2025 at 3:33pm:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 10^th, 2025 at 3:21pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 10^th, 2025 at 1:32pm:

Do you deny Israel's right to exist?

Do you think Israel have the right to bomb innocent citizens of a different country ?

Sure. To deny them that right would just encourage Hamas to use civilians as human shields.

You cannot attack a neighbouring country from the top of a residential building then complain that that country does not walk on eggshells in their efforts to try to stop you.

So Israel can blow up a multi story building in Australia if they believe a Hamas member is in the building ? I think not.

There is zero claim that Hamas had launched from that building.

I say the answer is no.

What does FD say?

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Re: Israel bombs Qatar
Reply #32 - Sep 10^th, 2025 at 5:57pm

Dnarever wrote on Sep 10^th, 2025 at 3:52pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 10^th, 2025 at 3:49pm:

Do you deny Israel's right to exist?

No I just don't support Israel's right to indiscriminately blow up anyone they don't like.

What do you think is the right outcome for Palestinians who attacked and killed Israeli's and have innocent hostages. What do you want to see happen to them and how would you achieve that?.

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Re: Israel bombs Qatar
Reply #33 - Sep 10^th, 2025 at 5:58pm

Leroy wrote on Sep 10^th, 2025 at 5:57pm:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 10^th, 2025 at 3:52pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 10^th, 2025 at 3:49pm:

Do you deny Israel's right to exist?

No I just don't support Israel's right to indiscriminately blow up anyone they don't like.

What do you think is the right outcome for Palestinians who attacked and killed Israeli's and have innocent hostages. What do you want to see happen to them and how would you achieve that?.

Murderers should all be hanged in public:

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 112826 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Israel bombs Qatar Reply #34 - Sep 10^th, 2025 at 6:37pm Sounds like Qatar can do nothing about it - they have only a puny air force and no stealth fighters to attack Israel.
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Re: Israel bombs Qatar
Reply #36 - Sep 10^th, 2025 at 8:03pm

freediver wrote on Sep 10^th, 2025 at 3:33pm:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 10^th, 2025 at 3:21pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 10^th, 2025 at 1:32pm:

Do you deny Israel's right to exist?

Do you think Israel have the right to bomb innocent citizens of a different country ?

Sure. To deny them that right would just encourage Hamas to use civilians as human shields.

You cannot attack a neighbouring country from the top of a residential building then complain that that country does not walk on eggshells in their efforts to try to stop you.

"human shields" gets wheeled out once again for the 10,000th time whilst hamas sitting in tunnels 50 meters below the surface Cheesy

LOL

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"All of the arab states have said we will have peace with Israel when there is a state of Palestine as a UN member state and properly constituted." - Jeffrey Sachs.

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Sir lastnail Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 30567 Gender:	Re: Israel bombs Qatar Reply #37 - Sep 10^th, 2025 at 8:05pm Bobby. wrote on Sep 10^th, 2025 at 6:37pm: Sounds like Qatar can do nothing about it - they have only a puny air force and no stealth fighters to attack Israel. And being buddies with Trump and giving him a 400 million dollar jet they thought they were immune from the genocidal settler colony LOL
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Sir lastnail Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 30567 Gender:	Re: Israel bombs Qatar Reply #38 - Sep 10^th, 2025 at 8:06pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 10^th, 2025 at 7:07pm: "Israel bombs Qatar" With Trump's blessing. but you forgot the power and influence of the Epstein files
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Re: Israel bombs Qatar
Reply #39 - Sep 10^th, 2025 at 8:11pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 10^th, 2025 at 6:37pm:

Sounds like Qatar can do nothing about it -

they have only a puny air force and no stealth fighters to attack Israel.

Qatar and Israel have F15s. Israeli F15s are probably better Israel does their own avionics and weapon systems think of Israel as the R&D dept for US military industry.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_F-15EX_Eagle_II

Are you saying F15s are no match for F35s?

The big problem with Gulf Arab states is lack of work ethic which means their pilots are hopeless.
The Saudis and UAE couldn't do much with Houthis Israel flies over and bombs them at will.

Qatar has a huge US airbase they probably rely on the US to protect them.

I would say the Gulf Arabs would be happy Israel is taking care of Hamas terrorists for them.
There would be outrage from butthurt muslims if the Gulf Arabs took out Hamas.
They can blame Israel. Wink

Hamas leaders are a legitimate target they did kill Haniyeh in Iran with a bomb under his bed in IRGC building.

If a terrorist supporter flies a Palestinian flag in Saudi Arabia they are arrested the Saudis don't tolerate that.

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Re: Israel bombs Qatar
Reply #40 - Sep 10^th, 2025 at 8:17pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 10^th, 2025 at 8:03pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 10^th, 2025 at 3:33pm:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 10^th, 2025 at 3:21pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 10^th, 2025 at 1:32pm:

Do you deny Israel's right to exist?

Do you think Israel have the right to bomb innocent citizens of a different country ?

Sure. To deny them that right would just encourage Hamas to use civilians as human shields.

You cannot attack a neighbouring country from the top of a residential building then complain that that country does not walk on eggshells in their efforts to try to stop you.

"human shields" gets wheeled out once again for the 10,000th time whilst hamas sitting in tunnels 50 meters below the surface Cheesy

LOL

DNA is the one who brought it up.

I notice you could not answer the question about Israel's right to exist. Why is that?

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Re: Israel bombs Qatar
Reply #41 - Sep 10^th, 2025 at 8:25pm

freediver wrote on Sep 10^th, 2025 at 8:17pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 10^th, 2025 at 8:03pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 10^th, 2025 at 3:33pm:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 10^th, 2025 at 3:21pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 10^th, 2025 at 1:32pm:

Do you deny Israel's right to exist?

Do you think Israel have the right to bomb innocent citizens of a different country ?

Sure. To deny them that right would just encourage Hamas to use civilians as human shields.

You cannot attack a neighbouring country from the top of a residential building then complain that that country does not walk on eggshells in their efforts to try to stop you.

"human shields" gets wheeled out once again for the 10,000th time whilst hamas sitting in tunnels 50 meters below the surface Cheesy

LOL

DNA is the one who brought it up.

I notice you could not answer the question about Israel's right to exist. Why is that?

But I asked you for whose benefit ? Is it exclusively for zionists only or is it for everyone, including the people who have been living there for 100's of years before the illegal settler colony started colonizing the land and displacing the locals ?

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Re: Israel bombs Qatar
Reply #42 - Sep 10^th, 2025 at 8:27pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 10^th, 2025 at 8:25pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 10^th, 2025 at 8:17pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 10^th, 2025 at 8:03pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 10^th, 2025 at 3:33pm:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 10^th, 2025 at 3:21pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 10^th, 2025 at 1:32pm:

Do you deny Israel's right to exist?

Do you think Israel have the right to bomb innocent citizens of a different country ?

Sure. To deny them that right would just encourage Hamas to use civilians as human shields.

You cannot attack a neighbouring country from the top of a residential building then complain that that country does not walk on eggshells in their efforts to try to stop you.

"human shields" gets wheeled out once again for the 10,000th time whilst hamas sitting in tunnels 50 meters below the surface Cheesy

LOL

DNA is the one who brought it up.

I notice you could not answer the question about Israel's right to exist. Why is that?

But I asked you for whose benefit ? Is it exclusively for zionists only or is it for everyone, including the people who have been living there for 100's of years before the illegal settler colony started colonizing the land and displacing the locals ?

If you recognise its right to exist, then it does not matter who you think benefits from that right. You can insert any answer you want. It is a nonsensical question. You are speaking gibberish.

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Re: Israel bombs Qatar
Reply #43 - Sep 11^th, 2025 at 9:57am

freediver wrote on Sep 10^th, 2025 at 8:27pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 10^th, 2025 at 8:25pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 10^th, 2025 at 8:17pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 10^th, 2025 at 8:03pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 10^th, 2025 at 3:33pm:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 10^th, 2025 at 3:21pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 10^th, 2025 at 1:32pm:

Do you deny Israel's right to exist?

Do you think Israel have the right to bomb innocent citizens of a different country ?

Sure. To deny them that right would just encourage Hamas to use civilians as human shields.

You cannot attack a neighbouring country from the top of a residential building then complain that that country does not walk on eggshells in their efforts to try to stop you.

"human shields" gets wheeled out once again for the 10,000th time whilst hamas sitting in tunnels 50 meters below the surface Cheesy

LOL

DNA is the one who brought it up.

I notice you could not answer the question about Israel's right to exist. Why is that?

But I asked you for whose benefit ? Is it exclusively for zionists only or is it for everyone, including the people who have been living there for 100's of years before the illegal settler colony started colonizing the land and displacing the locals ?

If you recognise its right to exist, then it does not matter who you think benefits from that right. You can insert any answer you want. It is a nonsensical question. You are speaking gibberish.

No not if it's an apartheid state !!

But do you support the Palestinians' right to self-determination?

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Re: Israel bombs Qatar
Reply #44 - Sep 11^th, 2025 at 10:20am

freediver wrote on Sep 10^th, 2025 at 9:43am:

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And kill the negotiators which is what they are known to do in order to scuttle negotiations because the zionists just want to steal the land for themselves

Yasser Arafat was the Palestinians leading negotiator for peace in his later years. He died in his mid seventies following a bout of influenza. The Israelis allowed him to travel to seek medical attention.

Arafat's peace negotiations failed because the people of Gaza voted for war. Fatah's popularity went from almost universal to minority status because they pursued peace under Arafat. You do not need a sinister conspiracy to explain the never ending war. It is simply what the local Muslims want.

You remain uneducable.

The Arab world was outraged by the UN's confiscation of much of Palestine in 1947.

The Oslo accords were never going to progress to peace after Ramin's murder.

And Israel's ideologues were never going to countenance E. Jerusalem as the capital of a Palestinian state, a stance which gave rise to Hamas.

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Likewise you do not need a sinister conspiracy theory to explain why Israel repeatedly returns land after each of the many military victories they have had. They return it because they do not want it.

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To see it any other day requires a hatred of Jews strong enough to blind you to the bleeding obvious.

The contemptible 'chosen people ' and 'promised land' mythology is as responsible for the failure to achieve a peace settlement as any Muslim fundamentalism.

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