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Marla Gold Member Offline A joint a day keeps the MAGA away Posts: 14537 Colorado Gender:	Re: Trump blows terrorists out of the water Reply #465 - Yesterday at 2:25am
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Re: Trump blows terrorists out of the water
Reply #466 - Yesterday at 7:48am

Frank wrote on Dec 7^th, 2025 at 6:23pm:

They are not killing enough of them.

Fisrt we had "Colonisation ended too soon".

Then we had "Slavery ended too soon".

Now we have this.

I ask in all seriousness, should Frank be on a watch-list?

All i know is that not only do i resent sharing a society with him, it frightens me.

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Reply #467 - Yesterday at 8:03am

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 7^th, 2025 at 11:10pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 7^th, 2025 at 10:56pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 7^th, 2025 at 7:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 7^th, 2025 at 6:46pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 7^th, 2025 at 6:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 7^th, 2025 at 6:28pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 7^th, 2025 at 6:23pm:

They are not killing enough of them.

Not killing enough innocent people?

How the **** would YOU know?

What charges were they convicted on?

The same as those guys, despicable, repulsive wanker:

Obama embraced the US drone programme, overseeing more strikes in his first year than Bu8sh carried out during his entire presidency. A total of 563 strikes, largely by drones, targeted Pakistan, Somalia and Yemen during Obama’s two terms, compared to 57 strikes under Bush. Between 384 and 807 civilians were killed in those countries, according to reports logged by the Bureau.

What charges were THEY convicted on, skin crawlingly hideous lying ****ing *******.

Hard to say, old boy. When you were told strikes targeted Pakistan, Somalia and Yemen, what was your response again?

Cheers.

What was your response when the Kenyan was blowing these people up?

That's a question.

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U.S. officials said that in 2009, al-Awlaki was promoted to the rank of "regional commander" within al-Qaeda.[13] He repeatedly called for jihad against the United States.[14][15] In April 2010, al-Awlaki was placed on a CIA kill list by President Obama.[16][17][18] Al-Awlaki's father and civil rights groups challenged the order in court.[16][18][19][20] The U.S. deployed unmanned aircraft (drones) in Yemen to search for and kill him,[21] firing at and failing to kill him at least once.[22] Al-Awlaki was killed on September 30, 2011

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anwar_al-Awlaki

Originally? I'd have said so unfair. But then I had a little look-see:

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In June 2014, a previously classified memorandum from the U.S. Department of Justice was released; the memorandum described al-Awlaki's killing as a lawful act of war.

The Kenyan, you see, took legal advice. We have a terrorist over in Yemen, he said. No extradition treaty. He's planning the next big one.

Kill him, his counsel said. It's a legitimate act of war.

al-Awlaki's father took the Kenyan's kill order to court. You don't want your son killed? The judge said. Tell him to hand himself in. Case closed.

So no, dear. Killing al Qaida members in the roundup after Sept 11 is exactly what you'd expect a prez to do.

What we wouldn't expect him to do is go and start an endless war in Iraq instead, but that's just me. At the time, you begged to differ.

Obama took out known terrorist targets, including Osama himself. He had congressional approval to do so. Your DL used drones in his first term to kill even more, presumably to match the Kenyan.

So, given your dismay over the Kenyan taking out members of al Qaida, what's your view on DL taking out random vessels at sea?

No kill lists, no known targets, not even a name. Your DL is perverting the legality of defensive strikes on terrorists to apply to alleged drug smugglers. Of course it's illegal, even you know that.

With such high ethical standards, you must be out of your mind.

Thoughts?

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 13298 Armidale Gender:	Re: Trump blows terrorists out of the water Reply #468 - Yesterday at 8:26am Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 7^th, 2025 at 9:55pm: Opioids kill more Americans than guns in the US You're onto something there. The National Guard is on the case with tanks, air support and sat intel. Gun clubs are high priority assets for missile strikes.
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 60844 Here Gender:	Re: Trump blows terrorists out of the water Reply #469 - Yesterday at 8:57am Killing people just floating in the ocean is unconscionable. If these people were a threat at any time which is in significant doubt there is zero doubt that at this point in time there was zero threat. Ordering the murder of people in these circumstances is a crime.
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Re: Trump blows terrorists out of the water
Reply #470 - Yesterday at 9:22am

mothra wrote Yesterday at 7:48am:

Frank wrote on Dec 7^th, 2025 at 6:23pm:

They are not killing enough of them.

Fisrt we had "Colonisation ended too soon".

Then we had "Slavery ended too soon".

Now we have this.

I ask in all seriousness, should Frank be on a watch-list?

All i know is that not only do i resent sharing a society with him, it frightens me.

Frank is openly endorsing the mass murder of innocent people.

He should most definitely be on a watch list.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 147967 Gender:	Re: Trump blows terrorists out of the water Reply #471 - Yesterday at 9:23am Frank wrote on Dec 7^th, 2025 at 7:46pm: O'bama killed a lot of tinted muslims who were not convicted of any crimes. Was O'Bama a kkklansman and white supremacist wacist on his mother's side? Are you saying that killing people who have not been convicted of a crime is wrong?
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 99827	Re: Trump blows terrorists out of the water Reply #472 - Yesterday at 9:23am CARPETBOMB THEM.
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Re: Trump blows terrorists out of the water
Reply #473 - Yesterday at 9:30am

Karnal wrote Yesterday at 8:03am:

The Kenyan, you see, took legal advice. We have a terrorist over in Yemen, he said. No extradition treaty. He's planning the next big one.

Kill him, his counsel said. It's a legitimate act of war.

So no, dear. Killing al Qaida members in the roundup after Sept 11 is exactly what you'd expect a prez to do.

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Thoughts?

WASHINGTON — Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth ordered the U.S. military on Sept. 2 to kill all 11 people on a suspected drug-smuggling boat in the Caribbean Sea because they were on an internal list of narco-terrorists who U.S. intelligence and military officials determined could be lethally targeted, the commander overseeing the operation told lawmakers in briefings this past week, according to two U.S. officials and one person familiar with the congressional briefings.

Such a list includes individuals who are eligible for being targeted, including with lethal action, if given the opportunity. The commander who oversaw the Sept. 2 strikes, Adm. Frank “Mitch” Bradley, told lawmakers that U.S. intelligence officials had confirmed the identities of the 11 people on the boat and validated them as legitimate targets, then the military launched airstrikes as part of President Donald Trump’s military campaign against alleged drug-smuggling vessels, the U.S. officials and person familiar with the congressional briefings said.

The detail that the 11 people on the boat were on an internal U.S. military target list has not previously been made public. It adds another dimension to the Sept. 2 operation that has been mired in controversy over the military’s decision to launch a second strike after the first left two survivors in the water.

Lawmakers have raised questions about whether the second strike violated international law. Whether Hegseth directed Bradley, who is the commander of U.S. Special Operations Command, to kill everyone on the boat has been key question in the controversy over the second strike.

An administration official said Bradley made clear in his briefings with lawmakers that he acted in complete compliance with the law throughout the operation. “As with all such actions, a uniformed JAG provided advice and counsel every step of the way,” the official said

“The cumulative impact of these narcoterrorist shipments directly threaten Americans and the national security interests of the United States,” the official said.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/admiral-told-lawmakers-everyo...

So the lawyers said go ahead.

Happy now, paki?

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Re: Trump blows terrorists out of the water
Reply #474 - Yesterday at 9:31am

greggerypeccary wrote Yesterday at 9:22am:

mothra wrote Yesterday at 7:48am:

Frank wrote on Dec 7^th, 2025 at 6:23pm:

They are not killing enough of them.

Fisrt we had "Colonisation ended too soon".

Then we had "Slavery ended too soon".

Now we have this.

I ask in all seriousness, should Frank be on a watch-list?

All i know is that not only do i resent sharing a society with him, it frightens me.

Frank is openly endorsing the mass murder of innocent people.

He should most definitely be on a watch list.

A doubt that you could find anyone willing to watch Frank - YUK.

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Re: Trump blows terrorists out of the water
Reply #475 - Yesterday at 9:34am

Frank wrote Yesterday at 9:30am:

Karnal wrote Yesterday at 8:03am:

The Kenyan, you see, took legal advice. We have a terrorist over in Yemen, he said. No extradition treaty. He's planning the next big one.

Kill him, his counsel said. It's a legitimate act of war.

So no, dear. Killing al Qaida members in the roundup after Sept 11 is exactly what you'd expect a prez to do.

...

Thoughts?

WASHINGTON — Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth ordered the U.S. military on Sept. 2 to kill all 11 people on a suspected drug-smuggling boat in the Caribbean Sea because they were on an internal list of narco-terrorists who U.S. intelligence and military officials determined could be lethally targeted, the commander overseeing the operation told lawmakers in briefings this past week, according to two U.S. officials and one person familiar with the congressional briefings.

Such a list includes individuals who are eligible for being targeted, including with lethal action, if given the opportunity. The commander who oversaw the Sept. 2 strikes, Adm. Frank “Mitch” Bradley, told lawmakers that U.S. intelligence officials had confirmed the identities of the 11 people on the boat and validated them as legitimate targets, then the military launched airstrikes as part of President Donald Trump’s military campaign against alleged drug-smuggling vessels, the U.S. officials and person familiar with the congressional briefings said.

The detail that the 11 people on the boat were on an internal U.S. military target list has not previously been made public. It adds another dimension to the Sept. 2 operation that has been mired in controversy over the military’s decision to launch a second strike after the first left two survivors in the water.

Lawmakers have raised questions about whether the second strike violated international law. Whether Hegseth directed Bradley, who is the commander of U.S. Special Operations Command, to kill everyone on the boat has been key question in the controversy over the second strike.

An administration official said Bradley made clear in his briefings with lawmakers that he acted in complete compliance with the law throughout the operation. “As with all such actions, a uniformed JAG provided advice and counsel every step of the way,” the official said

“The cumulative impact of these narcoterrorist shipments directly threaten Americans and the national security interests of the United States,” the official said.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/admiral-told-lawmakers-everyo...

So the lawyers said go ahead.

Happy now, paki?

Ah.

They "said".

They didn't present a single piece of evidence to support what they "said" though.

Zero. Zip. Nada.

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Re: Trump blows terrorists out of the water
Reply #476 - Yesterday at 9:36am

greggerypeccary wrote Yesterday at 9:22am:

mothra wrote Yesterday at 7:48am:

Frank wrote on Dec 7^th, 2025 at 6:23pm:

They are not killing enough of them.

Fisrt we had "Colonisation ended too soon".

Then we had "Slavery ended too soon".

Now we have this.

I ask in all seriousness, should Frank be on a watch-list?

All i know is that not only do i resent sharing a society with him, it frightens me.

Frank is openly endorsing the mass murder of innocent people.

He should most definitely be on a watch list.

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openly endorsing the mass murder of innocent people.

Most conservatives have been onboard for many decades. I remember back when they were activly advocating machine gunning Vietnamise boat arrivals.

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Re: Trump blows terrorists out of the water
Reply #477 - Yesterday at 9:40am

mothra wrote Yesterday at 7:48am:

Frank wrote on Dec 7^th, 2025 at 6:23pm:

They are not killing enough of them.

Fisrt we had "Colonisation ended too soon".

Then we had "Slavery ended too soon".

Now we have this.

I ask in all seriousness, should Frank be on a watch-list?

All i know is that not only do i resent sharing a society with him, it frightens me.

In the other thread, he's pretending the leftards are so sanctimonious and mean for complaining. What's wrong with having an alternative view? He says. So unfair.

KILL THEM.

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Re: Trump blows terrorists out of the water
Reply #478 - Yesterday at 9:58am

Frank wrote Yesterday at 9:30am:

Karnal wrote Yesterday at 8:03am:

The Kenyan, you see, took legal advice. We have a terrorist over in Yemen, he said. No extradition treaty. He's planning the next big one.

Kill him, his counsel said. It's a legitimate act of war.

So no, dear. Killing al Qaida members in the roundup after Sept 11 is exactly what you'd expect a prez to do.

...

Thoughts?

WASHINGTON — Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth ordered the U.S. military on Sept. 2 to kill all 11 people on a suspected drug-smuggling boat in the Caribbean Sea because they were on an internal list of narco-terrorists who U.S. intelligence and military officials determined could be lethally targeted, the commander overseeing the operation told lawmakers in briefings this past week, according to two U.S. officials and one person familiar with the congressional briefings.

Such a list includes individuals who are eligible for being targeted, including with lethal action, if given the opportunity. The commander who oversaw the Sept. 2 strikes, Adm. Frank “Mitch” Bradley, told lawmakers that U.S. intelligence officials had confirmed the identities of the 11 people on the boat and validated them as legitimate targets, then the military launched airstrikes as part of President Donald Trump’s military campaign against alleged drug-smuggling vessels, the U.S. officials and person familiar with the congressional briefings said.

The detail that the 11 people on the boat were on an internal U.S. military target list has not previously been made public. It adds another dimension to the Sept. 2 operation that has been mired in controversy over the military’s decision to launch a second strike after the first left two survivors in the water.

Lawmakers have raised questions about whether the second strike violated international law. Whether Hegseth directed Bradley, who is the commander of U.S. Special Operations Command, to kill everyone on the boat has been key question in the controversy over the second strike.

An administration official said Bradley made clear in his briefings with lawmakers that he acted in complete compliance with the law throughout the operation. “As with all such actions, a uniformed JAG provided advice and counsel every step of the way,” the official said

“The cumulative impact of these narcoterrorist shipments directly threaten Americans and the national security interests of the United States,” the official said.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/admiral-told-lawmakers-everyo...

So the lawyers said go ahead.

Happy now, paki?

Of course not. Bradley's covering his arse, as every schoolboy knows. He's pretending those on the boat were on a list, without even saying who or what. He's in full cover-up mode.

Nor were his actions guided by a congressionally-appointed JAG official. They've been purged for this very reason:

Earlier this year, Hegseth said he fired the Air Force and Army TJAGs because they were "roadblocks to orders that are given by a commander in chief.”

As ever, defending yourself as a government employee under a Trump administration is made harder by the fact that the administration's already fessed up to it all.

Now they're trying to defend the indefensible. You know this, everybody knows.

Why else would you be playing whatabout-that with the Kenyan?

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Re: Trump blows terrorists out of the water
Reply #479 - Yesterday at 10:01am

greggerypeccary wrote Yesterday at 9:34am:

Frank wrote Yesterday at 9:30am:

Karnal wrote Yesterday at 8:03am:

The Kenyan, you see, took legal advice. We have a terrorist over in Yemen, he said. No extradition treaty. He's planning the next big one.

Kill him, his counsel said. It's a legitimate act of war.

So no, dear. Killing al Qaida members in the roundup after Sept 11 is exactly what you'd expect a prez to do.

...

Thoughts?

WASHINGTON — Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth ordered the U.S. military on Sept. 2 to kill all 11 people on a suspected drug-smuggling boat in the Caribbean Sea because they were on an internal list of narco-terrorists who U.S. intelligence and military officials determined could be lethally targeted, the commander overseeing the operation told lawmakers in briefings this past week, according to two U.S. officials and one person familiar with the congressional briefings.

Such a list includes individuals who are eligible for being targeted, including with lethal action, if given the opportunity. The commander who oversaw the Sept. 2 strikes, Adm. Frank “Mitch” Bradley, told lawmakers that U.S. intelligence officials had confirmed the identities of the 11 people on the boat and validated them as legitimate targets, then the military launched airstrikes as part of President Donald Trump’s military campaign against alleged drug-smuggling vessels, the U.S. officials and person familiar with the congressional briefings said.

The detail that the 11 people on the boat were on an internal U.S. military target list has not previously been made public. It adds another dimension to the Sept. 2 operation that has been mired in controversy over the military’s decision to launch a second strike after the first left two survivors in the water.

Lawmakers have raised questions about whether the second strike violated international law. Whether Hegseth directed Bradley, who is the commander of U.S. Special Operations Command, to kill everyone on the boat has been key question in the controversy over the second strike.

An administration official said Bradley made clear in his briefings with lawmakers that he acted in complete compliance with the law throughout the operation. “As with all such actions, a uniformed JAG provided advice and counsel every step of the way,” the official said

“The cumulative impact of these narcoterrorist shipments directly threaten Americans and the national security interests of the United States,” the official said.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/admiral-told-lawmakers-everyo...

So the lawyers said go ahead.

Happy now, paki?

Ah.

They "said".

https://www.dictionary.com/e/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/cool-story-bro-6.jpg

They didn't present a single piece of evidence to support what they "said" though.

Zero. Zip. Nada.

Thing is, Bradley will be required to back up his claims with evidence at some point. If he's found to have bullshitted, it's an additional charge of lying to Congress.

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