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Re: Trump blows terrorists out of the water
Reply #225 - Yesterday at 6:20pm

Karnal wrote Yesterday at 6:17pm:

Bobby. wrote Yesterday at 4:38pm:

Karnal wrote Yesterday at 2:41pm:

Bobby. wrote Yesterday at 11:49am:

Karnal wrote Yesterday at 11:42am:

Bobby. wrote Yesterday at 11:33am:

Gnads wrote Yesterday at 11:01am:

It comes from China.

The CCP is heavily involved in Sth American countries along with Russia & Venezeula is one of them.

So you might want a rethink on that statement.

Pecca doesn't know. Roll Eyes

Fentanyl comes from China to many South American countries -
and is then exported to the USA killing 100s of 1000s of people.
It's mass murder.

Have a look at a map, dear. How do you get stuff from Venezuela to USA?

Triple engine power boats over sea or on land via Mexico -

they even use a partial form of submarine.

I see. And you think this happens, do you?

Venezuelans send submarines thousands of miles up to the USA to drop Chinese fentanyl off at the beach.

Shall we lock it in?

Lock it in.

They even send subs to Europe.

Oh dear, it's time to go, Bobi.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/19/us/politics/trump-venezuela-fentanyl.html

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Re: Trump blows terrorists out of the water
Reply #226 - Yesterday at 6:23pm

Venezuela Doesn’t Produce Fentanyl

Fentanyl Flow to the United States

There is zero evidence that the boats were carrying drugs or drug smugglers. Zero. None.

The fentanyl that kills Americans does not come from Venezuela.

The precursor chemicals from China and India are sent to Mexico.

It's in the Mexican labs where the fentanyl is then made.

The fentanyl is then transported into the US, through legal entry points, by US citizens.

Boats, South America, and Venezuela play no part whatsoever.

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Re: Trump blows terrorists out of the water
Reply #227 - Yesterday at 6:27pm

Belgarion wrote Yesterday at 5:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote Yesterday at 12:08pm:

Belgarion wrote Yesterday at 11:01am:

greggerypeccary wrote Yesterday at 10:18am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 29^th, 2025 at 7:45pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 29^th, 2025 at 7:32pm:

Blow em out of existence.
They kill thousands of innocents with their drugs.
No trial. Just boom boom

That's what Pete and Donald say -

at least 350,000 deaths from drugs in the USA every year.
A lot of it is other drugs laced with Fentanyl that kills in 2 minutes.

Trump has said that the US is attacking the boats due to high rates of fentanyl-related overdose deaths.

But lawmakers, narcotics experts and former law enforcement officials have rejected that claim, since fentanyl does not come from Venezuela.

You, and most people, even politicians and other 'experts', have little idea how the movement of illegal substances actually works. There is every chance that fentanyl and any other illegal drug you care to name is entering the US via Venezuela or any number of other intermediate ports.

Ah.

So what you're saying is they have no evidence.

They're just killing innocent people.

Glad we cleared that up.

I have read your posts in this thread and you have absolutely no idea what you are taking about. You allow you hatred of Trump to blind you to reality. Roll Eyes

Greggery's facts are superior in every way, dear. You can't just make stuff up.

Venezuela exports oil, fish and textiles. It has no pharmaceutical industry for precursor compounds. It would be impossible to mass manufacture fentanyl there.

Venezuelan crime syndicates operate outside Venezuela. Inside Venezuela, it's authoritarian government cracks down on drugs. Many of the ships the US have blown up have come from Colombia, and they don't make fentanyl either.

Keep reading Greggery's posts, dear. You might learn something.

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Re: Trump blows terrorists out of the water
Reply #228 - Yesterday at 6:32pm

Bobby. wrote Yesterday at 6:20pm:

Karnal wrote Yesterday at 6:17pm:

Bobby. wrote Yesterday at 4:38pm:

Karnal wrote Yesterday at 2:41pm:

Bobby. wrote Yesterday at 11:49am:

Karnal wrote Yesterday at 11:42am:

Bobby. wrote Yesterday at 11:33am:

Gnads wrote Yesterday at 11:01am:

It comes from China.

The CCP is heavily involved in Sth American countries along with Russia & Venezeula is one of them.

So you might want a rethink on that statement.

Pecca doesn't know. Roll Eyes

Fentanyl comes from China to many South American countries -
and is then exported to the USA killing 100s of 1000s of people.
It's mass murder.

Have a look at a map, dear. How do you get stuff from Venezuela to USA?

Triple engine power boats over sea or on land via Mexico -

they even use a partial form of submarine.

I see. And you think this happens, do you?

Venezuelans send submarines thousands of miles up to the USA to drop Chinese fentanyl off at the beach.

Shall we lock it in?

Lock it in.

They even send subs to Europe.

Oh dear, it's time to go, Bobi.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/19/us/politics/trump-venezuela-fentanyl.html

Thanks for playing, see you later.

Paywalled link - try again. Roll Eyes

You can lead a bot to water, dear. You won't read this.

https://www.wola.org/analysis/facts-to-inform-the-debate-about-the-u-s-governmen...

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Re: Trump blows terrorists out of the water
Reply #229 - Yesterday at 6:35pm

Karnal wrote Yesterday at 6:27pm:

Greggery's facts are superior in every way, dear. You can't just make stuff up.

Venezuela exports oil, fish and textiles. It has no pharmaceutical industry for precursor compounds. It would be impossible to mass manufacture fentanyl there.

Venezuelan crime syndicates operate outside Venezuela. Inside Venezuela, it's authoritarian government cracks down on drugs. Many of the ships the US have blown up have come from Colombia, and they don't make fentanyl either.

Keep reading Greggery's posts, dear. You might learn something.

Venezuela is a massive producer of Cocaine -

1000s of tons of it - and most is sent to the USA and Europe.

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Re: Trump blows terrorists out of the water
Reply #230 - Yesterday at 6:41pm

Bobby. wrote Yesterday at 6:35pm:

Karnal wrote Yesterday at 6:27pm:

Greggery's facts are superior in every way, dear. You can't just make stuff up.

Venezuela exports oil, fish and textiles. It has no pharmaceutical industry for precursor compounds. It would be impossible to mass manufacture fentanyl there.

Venezuelan crime syndicates operate outside Venezuela. Inside Venezuela, it's authoritarian government cracks down on drugs. Many of the ships the US have blown up have come from Colombia, and they don't make fentanyl either.

Keep reading Greggery's posts, dear. You might learn something.

Venezuela is a massive producer of Cocaine -

1000s of tons of it - and most is sent to the USA and Europe.

Sorry? I'm not hearing you confess to lying.

Start with that, dear, and we can enjoy a sincere discussion.

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Re: Trump blows terrorists out of the water
Reply #231 - Yesterday at 6:43pm

Karnal wrote Yesterday at 6:41pm:

Bobby. wrote Yesterday at 6:35pm:

Karnal wrote Yesterday at 6:27pm:

Greggery's facts are superior in every way, dear. You can't just make stuff up.

Venezuela exports oil, fish and textiles. It has no pharmaceutical industry for precursor compounds. It would be impossible to mass manufacture fentanyl there.

Venezuelan crime syndicates operate outside Venezuela. Inside Venezuela, it's authoritarian government cracks down on drugs. Many of the ships the US have blown up have come from Colombia, and they don't make fentanyl either.

Keep reading Greggery's posts, dear. You might learn something.

Venezuela is a massive producer of Cocaine -

1000s of tons of it - and most is sent to the USA and Europe.

Sorry? I'm not hearing you confess to lying.

Start with that, dear, and we can enjoy a sincere discussion.

Venezuela needs to stop producing Cocaine or Trump will stop them.

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Re: Trump blows terrorists out of the water
Reply #232 - Yesterday at 6:53pm

greggerypeccary wrote Yesterday at 12:09pm:

Frank wrote Yesterday at 10:57am:

greggerypeccary wrote Yesterday at 9:57am:

Frank wrote Yesterday at 9:36am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29^th, 2025 at 8:41pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 29^th, 2025 at 7:32pm:

Blow em out of existence.
They kill thousands of innocents with their drugs.
No trial. Just boom boom

What drugs, exactly?

Contraband.

What did you think?

Name the actual drug.

Why? Is some contraband ok to smuggle, others not?

Contraband. Illegal importation. By criminal cartels. If the countries from which they depart cannot control them then the country they are heading to will.

Just name the actual drug that's allegedly being carried in the boats.

Why are you finding that so hard to do?

It doesn't matter - contraband.

Not regular export-import shipment. Not registered boats conducting legit business.

If you think they are conducting legit business, provide the evidence for your assumptions.

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Re: Trump blows terrorists out of the water
Reply #233 - Yesterday at 7:12pm

Frank wrote Yesterday at 6:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote Yesterday at 12:09pm:

Frank wrote Yesterday at 10:57am:

greggerypeccary wrote Yesterday at 9:57am:

Frank wrote Yesterday at 9:36am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29^th, 2025 at 8:41pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 29^th, 2025 at 7:32pm:

Blow em out of existence.
They kill thousands of innocents with their drugs.
No trial. Just boom boom

What drugs, exactly?

Contraband.

What did you think?

Name the actual drug.

Why? Is some contraband ok to smuggle, others not?

Contraband. Illegal importation. By criminal cartels. If the countries from which they depart cannot control them then the country they are heading to will.

Just name the actual drug that's allegedly being carried in the boats.

Why are you finding that so hard to do?

It doesn't matter - contraband.

Not regular export-import shipment. Not registered boats conducting legit business.

Where's the evidence to support such a claim?

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Re: Trump blows terrorists out of the water
Reply #234 - Yesterday at 7:28pm

greggerypeccary wrote Yesterday at 7:12pm:

Frank wrote Yesterday at 6:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote Yesterday at 12:09pm:

Frank wrote Yesterday at 10:57am:

greggerypeccary wrote Yesterday at 9:57am:

Frank wrote Yesterday at 9:36am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29^th, 2025 at 8:41pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 29^th, 2025 at 7:32pm:

Blow em out of existence.
They kill thousands of innocents with their drugs.
No trial. Just boom boom

What drugs, exactly?

Contraband.

What did you think?

Name the actual drug.

Why? Is some contraband ok to smuggle, others not?

Contraband. Illegal importation. By criminal cartels. If the countries from which they depart cannot control them then the country they are heading to will.

Just name the actual drug that's allegedly being carried in the boats.

Why are you finding that so hard to do?

It doesn't matter - contraband.

Not regular export-import shipment. Not registered boats conducting legit business.

Where's the evidence to support such a claim?

Ah.

Frank's gone.

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Re: Trump blows terrorists out of the water
Reply #235 - Yesterday at 7:40pm

greggerypeccary wrote Yesterday at 5:53pm:

Belgarion wrote Yesterday at 5:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote Yesterday at 12:08pm:

Belgarion wrote Yesterday at 11:01am:

greggerypeccary wrote Yesterday at 10:18am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 29^th, 2025 at 7:45pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 29^th, 2025 at 7:32pm:

Blow em out of existence.
They kill thousands of innocents with their drugs.
No trial. Just boom boom

That's what Pete and Donald say -

at least 350,000 deaths from drugs in the USA every year.
A lot of it is other drugs laced with Fentanyl that kills in 2 minutes.

Trump has said that the US is attacking the boats due to high rates of fentanyl-related overdose deaths.

But lawmakers, narcotics experts and former law enforcement officials have rejected that claim, since fentanyl does not come from Venezuela.

You, and most people, even politicians and other 'experts', have little idea how the movement of illegal substances actually works. There is every chance that fentanyl and any other illegal drug you care to name is entering the US via Venezuela or any number of other intermediate ports.

Ah.

So what you're saying is they have no evidence.

They're just killing innocent people.

Glad we cleared that up.

I have read your posts in this thread and you have absolutely no idea what you are taking about. You allow you hatred of Trump to blind you to reality. Roll Eyes

Everything I've said in this thread is 100% true.

There is zero evidence that the boats were carrying drugs or drug smugglers. Zero. None.

The fentanyl that kills Americans does not come from Venezuela.

The precursor chemicals from China and India are sent to Mexico.

It's in the Mexican labs where the fentanyl is then made.

The fentanyl is then transported into the US, through legal entry points, by US citizens.

Boats, South America, and Venezuela play no part whatsoever.

Now, would you like to address each point, one by one, and prove me wrong?

Over to you ...

I spent 16 years working for Customs/Border Force. Suffice to say that I have much better knowledge about how the international movement of illicit substances works than you.

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Re: Trump blows terrorists out of the water
Reply #236 - Yesterday at 7:42pm

Belgarion wrote Yesterday at 7:40pm: