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Reply #45 - Aug 27^th, 2025 at 7:56pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 27^th, 2025 at 4:10pm:

He got his guns back:

“Hi Luke. Yesterday we had a victory in Wang Court.
The Magistrate rejected (the) application to take my firearms ... The tide is turning.”

He had his license revoked.

He was under Firearms Prohibition Order which means he can't own guns and Police can rock up anytime to search him without a warrant.

The 1996 Firearms act says Police can revoke license for not being a fit and proper person

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The officers came under fire while serving a warrant for alleged historical child sex abuse at a property in Porepunkah, about 300km northeast of Melbourne on Tuesday morning.

It’s been reported the officers had been searching for unlicensed guns on a bus at the property which Freeman used as a home.

The Herald Sun has reported Freeman, inside the vehicle, pounced on the officers shooting them with a shotgun. A police source described it as a “straight-out execution”.

He said the alleged gunman was “known to police” and 10 officers attended the residence to execute the warrant following a “robust” risk assessment. He would not say what the warrant was for.

https://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/police-officer-shot-two-unaccount...

10 police officers were there due to risk assessment.

Basic body armour protects against .22s shotguns and handguns it gets complicated to protect against rifles with body armour.

He was on ACA 6 years ago

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Re: Two police officers confirmed dead after shooting
Reply #46 - Aug 27^th, 2025 at 8:05pm

Sophia wrote on Aug 27^th, 2025 at 6:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 27^th, 2025 at 5:59pm:

Gnads wrote on Aug 27^th, 2025 at 1:06pm:

This bloke was known to Police who also knew of his Sovereign Citizen claim.

Obviously the Victorian Police must go about with their heads up their arses.....

they didn't learn one thing from the Wieambilla incident where two Police Officers shot & killed by the Train Family when they attended a farmhouse in December 2022.

The Trains were the same sort of people as this Dezi Freeman - Sovereign Citizens and Conspiracy theorists.

Also having a heavy arsenal of unregistered weapons.

Sadly, you're right - they didn't learn a thing.

All SovCits should be considered dangerous, especially those known to have guns.

They must always be treated with extreme caution - they are literally insane and could do anything at any time.

I just hope the shooter does the right thing and uses one of his guns on himself.

I'm almost certain he will.

No, not all.
Using the same brush to tar all others is the same as saying the copper that tasered the granny as all cops are thugs and act without due care.

I have just spoken to our friends that are sov citizens and they said, they don’t like the way they keep using that term to describe this man on the run.
They said they have no care for him and said he’s a criminal.
Now our male friend was ex army, and has 2 brothers in the police force. One has retired.

So therefore, saying all sovcits are bad is wrong.

This guy on the run… he’s a criminal first and foremost and shooting people is absolutely abhorrent.

Don't worry, if we were talking about another insane ideology, Islam, Gregg would be taking the opposite tack.

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Re: Two police officers confirmed dead after shooting
Reply #47 - Aug 27^th, 2025 at 10:26pm

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Aug 27^th, 2025 at 7:25pm:

Sophia wrote on Aug 27^th, 2025 at 6:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 27^th, 2025 at 5:59pm:

Gnads wrote on Aug 27^th, 2025 at 1:06pm:

This bloke was known to Police who also knew of his Sovereign Citizen claim.

Obviously the Victorian Police must go about with their heads up their arses.....

they didn't learn one thing from the Wieambilla incident where two Police Officers shot & killed by the Train Family when they attended a farmhouse in December 2022.

The Trains were the same sort of people as this Dezi Freeman - Sovereign Citizens and Conspiracy theorists.

Also having a heavy arsenal of unregistered weapons.

Sadly, you're right - they didn't learn a thing.

All SovCits should be considered dangerous, especially those known to have guns.

They must always be treated with extreme caution - they are literally insane and could do anything at any time.

I just hope the shooter does the right thing and uses one of his guns on himself.

I'm almost certain he will.

No, not all.
Using the same brush to tar all others is the same as saying the copper that tasered the granny as all cops are thugs and act without due care.

I have just spoken to our friends that are sov citizens and they said, they don’t like the way they keep using that term to describe this man on the run.
They said they have no care for him and said he’s a criminal.
Now our male friend was ex army, and has 2 brothers in the police force. One has retired.

So therefore, saying all sovcits are bad is wrong.

This guy on the run… he’s a criminal first and foremost and shooting people is absolutely abhorrent.

Shooting people is not absolutely abhorrent, depends on the people involved, if a policeman comes face to face with the criminal and shoots him dead it will be heroic.

I would’ve thought that some years ago, but when we were selling a boat … a couple blokes came from Newcastle to buy it (we are in Vic)
One was a copper, the other an ex copper. He left the force because he did shoot someone dead in the line of duty. I thought oh yeah… cool but he went on to say how it affected him for a long time and couldn’t stay in the police force anymore.
It’s not always clean cut heroic-easy-get-over-it stuff after all unless one is a psychopath anyway.
That made me realise how difficult it would be for a policeman to have to draw a gun and shoot or be killed.
It’s a negative job. I feel for the families of those 2 policemen that have died. One was about to retire too.

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Re: Two police officers confirmed dead after shooting
Reply #48 - Aug 27^th, 2025 at 10:40pm

Gnads wrote on Aug 27^th, 2025 at 7:37pm:

Sophia wrote on Aug 27^th, 2025 at 6:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 27^th, 2025 at 5:59pm:

Gnads wrote on Aug 27^th, 2025 at 1:06pm:

This bloke was known to Police who also knew of his Sovereign Citizen claim.

Obviously the Victorian Police must go about with their heads up their arses.....

they didn't learn one thing from the Wieambilla incident where two Police Officers shot & killed by the Train Family when they attended a farmhouse in December 2022.

The Trains were the same sort of people as this Dezi Freeman - Sovereign Citizens and Conspiracy theorists.

Also having a heavy arsenal of unregistered weapons.

Sadly, you're right - they didn't learn a thing.

All SovCits should be considered dangerous, especially those known to have guns.

They must always be treated with extreme caution - they are literally insane and could do anything at any time.

I just hope the shooter does the right thing and uses one of his guns on himself.

I'm almost certain he will.

No, not all.
Using the same brush to tar all others is the same as saying the copper that tasered the granny as all cops are thugs and act without due care.

I have just spoken to our friends that are sov citizens and they said, they don’t like the way they keep using that term to describe this man on the run.
They said they have no care for him and said he’s a criminal.
Now our male friend was ex army, and has 2 brothers in the police force. One has retired.

So therefore, saying all sovcits are bad is wrong.

This guy on the run… he’s a criminal first and foremost and shooting people is absolutely abhorrent.

No one said or suggested that.... though a sovereign citizen might.

Sovereign citizens that make the headlines have proven they are bad - and it's for all the wrong reasons.

So if your friends don't fit the mold as to these types then they're not really a sovereign citizen type.

They are just more your disgruntled citizen .....

and in this day and age with what's going on - who is not?

Oh yes, disgruntled enough to exercise rights, freeman, name in capitals, whatever else was said, it just goes in one ear and out the other with me. Grin

He’s a fighter, he’s got a 3rd Dan black belt taekwondo.
He has guns.
Now… about 5 years before we had that gun amnesty … he had guns the cops wanted him to hand in… so he did. He had a receipt of having handed them in etc.

Well get this…. talk about corruption in the police force… his gun ended up resurfacing 2 years later in Tasmania! Shocked

It was found out some coppers were stashing these guns handed in so they on sold them! Black market!

Since then, when guns are handed in… there’s a big window/glass barrier, where you see your gun being destroyed.
I saw this…when we handed in our pump action shot gun.

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Re: Two police officers confirmed dead after shooting
Reply #49 - Aug 27^th, 2025 at 10:55pm

Some issues with official story Vic police aren't reliable when you look at how they handled covid.

10 Police couldn't take 1 guy, how did he get away from the other 7 cops while carrying a huge arsenal?
If he was carrying so many weapons and ran away, surely the other police should have been able to shoot at him or run after him. You can't fire a rifle/shotgun if your hands are full of other weapons

Police claim he took pistols and radios from officers he killed.
They also claim he has several guns yet they had no idea of what guns he had when they executed warrant.

It's hard enough trekking through thick bush with one rifle and backpack yet the police want us to believe he is carrying multiple guns while he ran away from 7 other police officers.

Police Choppers have thermal cameras why haven't they located him ?

The police want us to believe he ran off into the bush like Rambo while carrying a huge arsenal while none of the other 7 police officers on the scene saw where he went?

It doesn't add up it's either a massive cock up by the police or they aren't being honest with us.

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Re: Two police officers confirmed dead after shooting
Reply #50 - Aug 27^th, 2025 at 11:13pm

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-08-27/alleged-porepunkah-shooter-dezi-freeman-g...

Suspected Porepunkah gunman Dezi Freeman
stripped of gun licence prior to police shooting.

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Alleged gunman Dezi Freeman last year told the Supreme Court his firearms licence had been cancelled while appearing in court on another matter.

Mr Freeman identified himself to the court as a disability pensioner and claimed his family was persecuted by the state.

What's next?
Police are continuing a significant search for Mr Freeman, who is believed to be armed and dangerous, after two police officers were shot dead and another seriously injured at his rural property on Tuesday.

A victim of a 'personal vendetta'
Mr Freeman last year launched a Supreme Court challenge after his drivers licence was cancelled and he was disqualified from driving for two years after being convicted of speeding, refusing to submit to a drug test and using a mobile phone while driving.

Mr Freeman, who was born Desmond Filby, told the Supreme Court he and his family were the victims of "malicious prosecution" and "personal vendetta" after he was stopped for speeding outside a fish and chip shop.

According to the court, the incident sparked a heated exchange with Mr Freeman who ultimately drove off without completing a drug test while simultaneously filming the officers who pulled him up.

"I had my firearms licences cancelled and lost my club membership," Mr Freeman told the Supreme Court, which ultimately struck down the challenge.

"We endured four acts of criminal trespass and harassment on our home by police and I have been dragged through four years of court hearings."

Victoria Police declined to comment on whether Mr Freeman had his gun licence cancelled.

Court records obtained by the ABC paint the picture of a man who felt deeply wronged by police, who he previously described as "terrorist thugs" and "friggin' Nazis".

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Re: Two police officers confirmed dead after shooting
Reply #51 - Aug 27^th, 2025 at 11:33pm

Sophia wrote on Aug 27^th, 2025 at 10:26pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Aug 27^th, 2025 at 7:25pm:

Sophia wrote on Aug 27^th, 2025 at 6:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 27^th, 2025 at 5:59pm:

Gnads wrote on Aug 27^th, 2025 at 1:06pm:

This bloke was known to Police who also knew of his Sovereign Citizen claim.

Obviously the Victorian Police must go about with their heads up their arses.....

they didn't learn one thing from the Wieambilla incident where two Police Officers shot & killed by the Train Family when they attended a farmhouse in December 2022.

The Trains were the same sort of people as this Dezi Freeman - Sovereign Citizens and Conspiracy theorists.

Also having a heavy arsenal of unregistered weapons.

Sadly, you're right - they didn't learn a thing.

All SovCits should be considered dangerous, especially those known to have guns.

They must always be treated with extreme caution - they are literally insane and could do anything at any time.

I just hope the shooter does the right thing and uses one of his guns on himself.

I'm almost certain he will.

No, not all.
Using the same brush to tar all others is the same as saying the copper that tasered the granny as all cops are thugs and act without due care.

I have just spoken to our friends that are sov citizens and they said, they don’t like the way they keep using that term to describe this man on the run.
They said they have no care for him and said he’s a criminal.
Now our male friend was ex army, and has 2 brothers in the police force. One has retired.

So therefore, saying all sovcits are bad is wrong.

This guy on the run… he’s a criminal first and foremost and shooting people is absolutely abhorrent.

Shooting people is not absolutely abhorrent, depends on the people involved, if a policeman comes face to face with the criminal and shoots him dead it will be heroic.

I would’ve thought that some years ago, but when we were selling a boat … a couple blokes came from Newcastle to buy it (we are in Vic)
One was a copper, the other an ex copper. He left the force because he did shoot someone dead in the line of duty. I thought oh yeah… cool but he went on to say how it affected him for a long time and couldn’t stay in the police force anymore.
It’s not always clean cut heroic-easy-get-over-it stuff after all unless one is a psychopath anyway.
That made me realise how difficult it would be for a policeman to have to draw a gun and shoot or be killed.
It’s a negative job. I feel for the families of those 2 policemen that have died. One was about to retire too.

I feel for the families and friends and fellow officers as well.and all the speculation is not helping.
It’s worth remembering that it is almost impossible to not suffer casualties in a well laid ambush, the first inkling comes with the first shot.
I
There have been thousands of Australians who killed in the line of duty and they didn’t kill criminals but ordinaty blokes like themselves, and only a tiny percentage ever let it worry them.

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Re: Two police officers confirmed dead after shooting
Reply #52 - Aug 27^th, 2025 at 11:57pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 27^th, 2025 at 11:13pm:

Suspected Porepunkah gunman Dezi Freeman
stripped of gun licence prior to police shooting.

5h ago

In short:

Alleged gunman Dezi Freeman last year told the Supreme Court his firearms licence had been cancelled while appearing in court on another matter.

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"I had my firearms licences cancelled and lost my club membership," Mr Freeman told the Supreme Court, which ultimately struck down the challenge.

Victoria Police declined to comment on whether Mr Freeman had his gun licence cancelled.

Victoria police know if he had his gun license cancelled why would they decline to comment on this?

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Reply #53 - Aug 27^th, 2025 at 11:59pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 27^th, 2025 at 10:55pm:

Some issues with official story Vic police aren't reliable when you look at how they handled covid.

10 Police couldn't take 1 guy, how did he get away from the other 7 cops while carrying a huge arsenal?
If he was carrying so many weapons and ran away, surely the other police should have been able to shoot at him or run after him. You can't fire a rifle/shotgun if your hands are full of other weapons

Police claim he took pistols and radios from officers he killed.
They also claim he has several guns yet they had no idea of what guns he had when they executed warrant.

It's hard enough trekking through thick bush with one rifle and backpack yet the police want us to believe he is carrying multiple guns while he ran away from 7 other police officers.

Police Choppers have thermal cameras why haven't they located him ?

The police want us to believe he ran off into the bush like Rambo while carrying a huge arsenal while none of the other 7 police officers on the scene saw where he went?

It doesn't add up it's either a massive cock up by the police or they aren't being honest with us.

The very question I thought of when I saw them big helicopters on the news.
From what I heard, the fugitive has a good knowledge of bush skills and especially the Alpine region… where there are many caves apparently.

And you write ~~

10 Police couldn't take 1 guy, how did he get away from the other 7 cops while carrying a huge arsenal?
If he was carrying so many weapons and ran away, surely the other police should have been able to shoot at him or run after him. You can't fire a rifle/shotgun if your hands are full of other weapons

And I ponder how…and don’t forget with wife and kid/s. So how did he get away?
Or maybe his family were used as a shield for him to not get shot at while on the move?

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Reply #55 - Aug 28^th, 2025 at 11:03am

The "couldn't be taken by 10 cops" line is misleading.

A number of the police personnel were from the sex offenders investigation unit because this dirt-bag nutter was being served on matters relating to sexual offending against children under the age of 15.

What's the bet that this nutter kills himself?

He will cop life imprisonment without parole if he is caught alive.

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Reply #56 - Aug 28^th, 2025 at 11:53am

The reports are a as a skilled bushman he could travel 15 kms per day.

Looking at this map of a 30km radius, and with a metre of snow predicted in snowy region… I’m looking at the map and get a feeling he could be heading towards Beechworth. (Outlaw Ned Kelly region)

Ned Kelly escaped to the bush, reappearing at sunrise to try to rescue his brother. This time, police shot Kelly where he was most vulnerable, taking out his legs in a volley of bullets that finally brought the dramatic siege to an end. Kelly's preliminary hearing was held in the Beechworth Courthouse in August 1880.

I’m reading some reports he was living in a caravan?
It was mentioned cops were ambushed from a caravan.

And as there’s one door in a caravan … was that door facing away from the main driveway entry towards the bush land for fast getaway?
Didn’t the cops flank the place?
10 cops, surely not all from the sex offensive team?

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Reply #57 - Aug 28^th, 2025 at 12:32pm

Captain Nemo wrote on Aug 28^th, 2025 at 11:03am:

The "couldn't be taken by 10 cops" line is misleading.

A number of the police personnel were from the sex offenders investigation unit because this dirt-bag nutter was being served on matters relating to sexual offending against children under the age of 15.

What's the bet that this nutter kills himself?

He will cop life imprisonment without parole if he is caught alive.

Yep, I said that from day one.

Hopefully we'll see this headline soon: "Shooter found dead in thick bush-land with self-inflicted gunshot wound"

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Reply #58 - Aug 28^th, 2025 at 12:48pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28^th, 2025 at 12:32pm:

Captain Nemo wrote on Aug 28^th, 2025 at 11:03am:

The "couldn't be taken by 10 cops" line is misleading.

A number of the police personnel were from the sex offenders investigation unit because this dirt-bag nutter was being served on matters relating to sexual offending against children under the age of 15.

What's the bet that this nutter kills himself?

He will cop life imprisonment without parole if he is caught alive.

Yep, I said that from day one.

Hopefully we'll see this headline soon: "Shooter found dead in thick bush-land with self-inflicted gunshot wound"

If so, would he have done it earlier rather than later? Hence why maybe thermal imaging isn’t showing up for those helicopters?
Also, maybe suicides in a way they never find his body so it remains a long standing mystery? Much like those 3 girls went missing on Valentine’s Day 1900 and were never found at Hanging Rock.

Why is nothing being said about his wife and family the police earlier said he took as “hostages” ?

Are they all going to be dead or never found or maybe remains are found ?

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Reply #59 - Aug 28^th, 2025 at 12:49pm

Sophia wrote on Aug 28^th, 2025 at 12:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28^th, 2025 at 12:32pm:

Captain Nemo wrote on Aug 28^th, 2025 at 11:03am:

The "couldn't be taken by 10 cops" line is misleading.

A number of the police personnel were from the sex offenders investigation unit because this dirt-bag nutter was being served on matters relating to sexual offending against children under the age of 15.

What's the bet that this nutter kills himself?

He will cop life imprisonment without parole if he is caught alive.

Yep, I said that from day one.

Hopefully we'll see this headline soon: "Shooter found dead in thick bush-land with self-inflicted gunshot wound"

If so, would he have done it earlier rather than later? Hence why maybe thermal imaging isn’t showing up for those helicopters?
Also, maybe suicides in a way they never find his body so it remains a long standing mystery? Much like those 3 girls went missing on Valentine’s Day 1900 and were never found at Hanging Rock.

Why is nothing being said about his wife and family the police earlier said he took as “hostages” ?

Are they all going to be dead or never found or maybe remains are found ?

His family is safe with authorities.

"The partner and children of Dezi Freeman, accused of killing two police officers in rural Porepunkah in Victoria, Australia, were interviewed by detectives on Tuesday, authorities confirmed."

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