Victoria's First Peoples' Assembly reveals proposed treaty-backed powers to create new education facility

Note that the financial arrangements remain confidential.

A recipe for apartheid and poor education standards that will disadvantage aboriginal children.

One presumes that they will be able to exclude non-Aboriginal children and also to whose curriculum will they adhere?

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There are all sorts of excuses and exceptionalism that people use to justify racism. But at the end of the day, it is still racism. Australian citizens do not need different educational institutions because of their genetics.

My god you idiots are ridiculous.

This is brilliant. An actual working measure to closing the gap.

ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 4:08pm:



There's stupid then there's downright evil. We have a few from both columns on this forum. And the odd number with a foot in both camps.

Working measure isn't an analogy for measure working, Fleadriver.


Would you like to try again?

3% of the population responsible for:

14% of child homicides

53% of missing persons - and never seen again

Captain Cook's fault?

Let's try again Mothra.

Can you cite some previous examples where throwing large but secret amounts of money at a problem in order to create a solution that is inherently racist has "worked"?

What makes you describe it as "brilliant" if you think it is "working" but won't actually work?

Boris wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 4:19pm:



93% of women in relationship killings in the NT ...

100% of 'extrajudicial killings' caused by their attacking cops with weapons ... even Bobby's Melbadishu Khefres know when to surrender and go quietly...

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 5:32pm:


So if your concern is it working, other than locking up and segregating all indigenous people into hermetically sealed enclosures and selling rich people tickets to hunt them, what would your solution be to make it work?

ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2025 at 7:17am:


ADDS:-  Skanka and the kind don't want them to be treated equally under the law - they are precious and must be above the law - like sheilas think they are these days.  Snide note:-  do you think that if we had the traditional teachers we had 'way back' any of this 'ball-chopping' BS would have got a look-in?  WTF is it with these dopey sheilas?

Wrong as usual - the entire concept of Aborassic Park began as a simple concept - to offer a Homeland and benefits through tourism and such to those who DEMANDED some 'right' to 'do things their way' and to have somewhere to put all the troublemakers and criminals - it was never a mass exodus ... only the Nirvana the dreamers think they had 'back then' and where all the 'activists' can go and be one with their 'traditional ways', and where Australia could just get rid of the troublemakers and make them the responsibility of their own people - AS THEY DEMAND.

A clear WIN in every way!!

It was never about 'locking up' and 'segregating' those who simply wanted to live an ordinary life and get along in the modern age etc - it was a GIFT of land to those imagineers who thought they knew how to do it better without Whartey's Way... but of course, Civilised Society has to be quarantined from that kind of wild way of living... can't have tribal massacres on every street, can we ..... and the idea of hunting parties was along the lines of Maverick..

"Only old and sick Indian can be hunted... ensure money for tribe - it is an honour to do that." ... and it was all a farce anyway - a pantomime for money.

Are you really that stupid?  Born that way or did it take years of work and effort and head down in the books?  Keep that up and you could become a 'governor-general' who clearly states her loyalty is not to the King in any way but to the PM... as in WTF??  Then why are we paying her handsomely (other than that she is an old pal on the barricades of every idiotic thing that has overtaken the West in the past forty years, leading US to Albo and the utter destruction of Australia) ... why are we paying her at all?

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2025 at 10:49am:


Such weakness always starts with insults.

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 24^th, 2025 at 11:05pm:

Frank wrote on Aug 25^th, 2025 at 11:14am:


How would you close the gap then?

Please Explain.

ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 25^th, 2025 at 12:14pm:


If you had read beyond the headline you would have a clue.
I even highlighted the kicker - yet you pretend to have missed it. Ridiculous.

In any case, there is no magic formula just for Aborigines or blacks or lumpen whites. 

Frank wrote on Aug 25^th, 2025 at 1:04pm:


Oh, so you don't like me holding up a mirror to your behaviour?

Please Explain.

freediver wrote on Aug 25^th, 2025 at 12:57pm:




Hard to argue with any of that

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Exactly. That's why we have lower standards and expectations for aborigines. Why we let them get away with things that we would not permit from any other group in our society. It's why they are treated differently before the law.

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How is treating people differently before the law, based on their race, a level playing field?

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There are plenty of cases where that is exactly how aborigines are treated. They are given property (eg Uluru, Mt Warning etc), but they only have collective ownership of it. They are not allowed to have individual ownership of it. So an entire communist economy is built around the ownership, with exactly the consequences you would expect from communism.

freediver wrote on Aug 25^th, 2025 at 1:45pm:




Hard to argue with any of that

Frank wrote on Aug 25^th, 2025 at 4:19pm:


No, its socialism.  Ownership of the means of production held in common equates to basic socialism.  If you knew anything about political theory, you'd know that, Soren.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...

freediver wrote on Aug 25^th, 2025 at 4:35pm:


Australia hosted a conference of all the Socialist states around the world back in the early 1970s.  We were accorded the honour as the second most Socialist nation in the world.  Since then we have gone downhill with major privatisation efforts.  Australians tend to think that effort has gone too far.  We are paying proportionately more in fees for services as a consequence.  We are making oligarchs richer at our expense.  Gough would never allow that in his Term as Prime Minister.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 25^th, 2025 at 4:21pm:



Don't tell me, Bbwiyawn, tell KangaLoon. He is the one labouring unders a total misunderstanding, with a full stop, no less. Suddenly a man of VERY few words (all wrong, of course).

Commune- ism about holding everything collectively, by the commune. It has been realised in small communes, among primitive peoples and by Russeau-ites imitating/playing at being, primitive people, like kibbutzim. Aborigines lived in proto-communism and their clinging to it is what ****s them, good and proper. Some cuz can rock up from Whoop Whoop and make a claim on your house, food, daughters, booze and drugs and you can't say no because it's 'kultcha'. So your house is devasteted, your family is traumatised and your 'elders' will ostracise you if you object to the 'law'.


There have never been communist states and never can be, unless it s a small city state or some 'first nations' band of clans.
State ownership is not, in itself, either socialist or communist.

Frank wrote on Aug 25^th, 2025 at 4:19pm:


Welcome to the chat.  If you want to barge in uninvited, that's fine, but at least have the courtesy to reply in the full context of the discussion or even just the current exchange.

For something to be considered a communist system, it can't be privately owned, it has to be owned by the state. That doesn't mean everything state-owned is communism, but Indigenous or First Nations ownership of land is, by definition, not communism.

The reason it's framed that way is simple, it's a rhetorical trick.

Most people in any progressive, open society would agree that communism isn't an ideal system, so slapping the label on these moves is a neat way to stir up fear, whip up resentment, and avoid the uncomfortable appearance of punching down at Indigenous Australians or confronting the atrocities committed during colonisation and the building of modern Australia.

If someone wants to object to what's happening around Mt Warning or to efforts at closing the gap, that's their prerogative, but let's not pretend dishonesty about motivations or realities is a legitimate starting point for debate.

Of Australia’s claimed 900,000 Aboriginal-identifying people, as many as 30–40% may have no genuine Aboriginal heritage at all, a concern publicly raised by Nathan Moran, CEO of the Metropolitan Local Aboriginal Land Council, or are self-identified while living entirely outside disadvantaged conditions. This inflation grossly exaggerates the apparent scale of inequality.

Remove this distortion and exclude those Aboriginal people who choose to live in remote and very remote communities, and the realistic Aboriginal population in mainstream Australia is closer to 400,000, most living under the same infrastructure, laws, and services as everyone else. Within this group, measurable differences in education, health, employment, and life expectancy are small and often negligible.

The real, entrenched disadvantage is concentrated among up to 150,000 people, about 25% of the adjusted figure, living in remote or very remote communities (approximately 68,000 in the NT, 62,000 in QLD, and 12,000 in WA).  The persistent gap is concentrated almost entirely within these communities, where cultural norms, kinship obligations, and rejection of mainstream authority create a self-reinforcing barrier. Here, disadvantage is not the result of governmental neglect but of a cultural wall maintained by choice.

If measured correctly, Closing the Gap would recognise that the “gap” in mainstream society is already nearly closed, and that the remaining disparity is the predictable result of voluntary self-exclusion, no amount of additional funding or management can remedy, and which remains effectively closed until voluntary, measurable, and demonstrable community and cultural change occurs.
...

The reality is stark: Closing the Gap has been weaponised into an Aboriginal political tool. Remote and very remote Indigenous communities are structurally incapable of meeting its targets, not through any absence of legal rights, public funding, or government commitment, but through persistent failure at the elder, family, and community level to enforce school attendance, maintain health, ensure the safety and wellbeing of their own community and foster wellbeing. Where there is no functioning economy, participation is impossible, ensuring that the gap will never close.

While communities refuse, resist, or reject the fundamental changes demanded by modernity  and government imposes no requirement, expectation, or obligation, voluntary or mandatory, nor even enforces existing laws such as school attendance, their children are condemned to remain shut out from the opportunities and standards of Australian society.

The truth no one will speak is that those given the most assistance are often the ones who make success impossible, defending the very conditions that keep them in failure.
https://quadrant.org.au/news-opinions/aborigines/why-the-gap-never-closes/

Education, the only path out

The Closing the Gap framework commits governments to achieving parity in education outcomes for Aboriginal Australians. Nowhere is its failure more visible than in the school attendance data for very remote Indigenous communities. The Australian Institute for Teaching and School Leadership (AITSL) reports that in these communities, only 25% of Indigenous primary school students attend regularly (where they meet the 90% attendance benchmark] and by Year 10, this falls to just 13%.

This trajectory signals far more than an education problem. It is not the product of societal neglect, inadequate funding, or a lack of government will, but of chronic failure at the elder, family, and community level to ensure engagement. The absence of consistent adult enforcement of school attendance undermines the educational rights that law and substantial public expenditure have already secured.

Education is the core structural driver on which progress across nearly all Closing the Gap targets depends.  Without consistent school attendance, literacy, and numeracy, young people are locked out of employment opportunities, perpetuating welfare dependency and economic marginalisation.

Poor educational outcomes directly correlate with poorer health literacy, reduced access to preventative healthcare, and higher rates of chronic disease.

They also limit the capacity to engage with legal systems constructively, contributing to overrepresentation in incarceration statistics. The absence of educational attainment erodes hope, aspiration, and the ability to navigate life challenges, feeding into the crisis of youth suicide.
Ibid.

mothra wrote on Aug 26^th, 2025 at 9:56am:

Can you dispute any of the points?

No.

Is there anything untrue in the bits I posted?

No.

You are just trying to hide your inability of refuting or countering any of the points by doing a Bbwiyawnesque 'twilight zone'.

Analysis / Bias

In review, Quadrant frequently uses loaded words in headlines and articles such as Burn, Climate Witches, Burn. This article is also one of many that question whether humans influence climate change. They have also been accused of creating scientific hoaxes. Quadrant usually sources their information but sometimes uses poor sources such as Judith Curry. Essentially, all articles favor the right and conservative causes.


https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/quadrant-magazine/

Frank wrote on Aug 26^th, 2025 at 10:13am:


Would you like me to answer those questions?

Let's start by actually identifying the points they've raised. After reading it a few times, I think it's fair to summarise their position as:

- Inflated population numbers - they claim the official Aboriginal population (approx. 900,000) is exaggerated, with up to 30-40% being "not genuinely Aboriginal."

- Disadvantage is "really" only remote - they argue that once you exclude "fake" or "urban" Aboriginal people, the remaining population (~400,000) has outcomes that are nearly equal to non-Indigenous Australians.

- The gap is "already closed" for most - they suggest measurable differences in mainstream (urban/regional) Aboriginal populations are "small and often negligible."

- Culture is to blame for remaining gaps - they say disadvantage in remote communities is due to cultural norms, kinship obligations, and rejection of mainstream authority, not government neglect.

- Closing the Gap is politicised - they argue the policy is "weaponised into an Aboriginal political tool."

Their solution: cultural change, not government action - they conclude that no amount of funding or management will help until Aboriginal communities abandon aspects of their culture and adopt "modern" values.

Before we go any further, can we at least agree, Frank, that these are the actual points they've raised?

And tell me, did you notice anything contradictory about some of those claims?

In these racial enclaves, there are no jobs and therefore no prospect of meaningful participation in the wider economy. Education has failed their youth; health outcomes, driven by life choices, poor diet, and alcoholism, are disastrous; and disregard for law and order is widespread. In any sane world, such communities would be closed or subjected to decisive government intervention. Yet the opposite occurs: the only calls are for “self-determination,” more power, and more money for the very people and structures that have presided over this failure.
Prime Minister Albanese sought to create a legacy on symbolic gesture of a constitutionally enshrined Voice to Parliament. He has shed public tears over this symbolic absurdity, yet remains dry-eyed at the brutal and preventable suffering of Aboriginal children in the Northern Territory today.

This article focuses on the Northern Territory, the epicentre of the Gap, a jurisdiction directly and unquestionably under Canberra’s control. Though self-governing, it remains subject to Commonwealth authority and is answerable to the federal government. As the old saying goes, “You can delegate authority, but you cannot delegate responsibility.” Every act of violence, every case of abuse, every child growing up in a lawless camp happens under the direct jurisdiction of the Albanese government.

The lifting of alcohol bans, the collapse of law enforcement presence, and the return to pre-Intervention levels of chaos have all happened on Albanese’s watch. His government has the legislative power to act tomorrow, to reimpose protections, enforce education, and break the cycle of abuse, yet chooses to prioritise symbolic constitutional change over direct, life-saving intervention.

Many remote and very remote Aboriginal settlements were originally justified as a means of preserving a distinct ‘native life’ as a functioning pre-contact system of law, economy, and culture. Today, that foundation has almost entirely disappeared. The societal norms that once structured daily life have collapsed:

♦ Customary law as an operative governance system is absent; ceremonial authority is fragmented or symbolic, replaced by statutory councils and service delivery bodies.

♦ Economic self-sufficiency has vanished, replaced almost wholly by welfare dependency.

♦ Social cohesion has disintegrated under the pressures of violence, substance abuse, and humbugging.

♦ Cultural practice is discontinuous, often reconstructed for external consumption rather than embedded in daily governance.

The result is enclavism: the maintenance of ethnically homogeneous, closed settlements through racially restricted tenures, either through State legislation or exclusive native title, internal governance that enforces exclusivity, and a cultural narrative that no longer reflects the lived reality. These communities, far from preserving traditional life, now perpetuate post-cultural dysfunction behind a racial shield.

Frank wrote on Aug 26^th, 2025 at 9:49am:

Cont.

In this way, education is not merely one Closing the Gap target among many, it is the keystone upon which progress in every other domain depends. Without addressing it decisively, gains in health, employment, justice, and wellbeing will continue to dissolve.
Criminological evidence consistently shows that chronic truancy is a primary risk factor for juvenile offending. In communities where the overwhelming majority of adolescents are disengaged from school:

♦ There is no structured daily routine or adult supervision.

♦ Peer groups form around anti-social behaviour, property crime, and substance abuse.

♦ Contact with police begins earlier, increasing the likelihood of juvenile detention.

The Closing the Gap data shows Indigenous youth are over-represented in detention at more than 20 times the rate of non-Indigenous youth. Education disengagement is not incidental to this figure, it is one of its root causes.

Government and advocacy responses perversely often frame attendance as a cultural issue, proposing “culturally responsive” schooling while tolerating chronically low attendance. This approach confuses cultural respect with acceptance of dysfunction, insulating harmful patterns from scrutiny. The reality is that attendance collapse is not an expression of cultural continuity; it is a symptom of post-cultural welfare dependency and the abdication of responsibility by community leadership.
...

Remote and very remote communities’ future is already determined. Those who gain a real education will leave, because there are no jobs and no economic future beyond permanent welfare dependence. What remains is a mendicant settlement where health outcomes are dictated not by government programs but by individual lifestyle choices — choices that must change if there is to be any improvement.

In such places, the “gap” is no longer open or bridgeable. It is deliberately closed from within. The wall is not just built but fortified, defended as cultural identity, and used to hold the outside world at bay. Despite the laws, ethics, and moral standards of a free modern society, it becomes an impenetrable barrier that protects a perversion, shielding behaviours that would be condemned anywhere else. This dynamic is not isolated; it is found in almost every remote and very remote community and homeland across the Northern Territory and beyond.

No government should abandon people behind the cultural wall, but in Australia, cowardice in leadership and ignorance in society keep it standing. The state’s hands are not bound by law or principle, but by fear of political backlash, fear of being branded racist, fear of confronting the truth. And that fear is sustained by a public that clings to romantic myths and media-fed illusions, blind to the reality of grotesque dysfunction in remote communities.
Ibid.

ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 26^th, 2025 at 10:56am:

Conclusion

The reality is stark: Closing the Gap has been weaponised into an Aboriginal political tool. Remote and very remote Indigenous communities are structurally incapable of meeting its targets, not through any absence of legal rights, public funding, or government commitment, but through persistent failure at the elder, family, and community level to enforce school attendance, maintain health, ensure the safety and wellbeing of their own community and foster wellbeing. Where there is no functioning economy, participation is impossible, ensuring that the gap will never close.

While communities refuse, resist, or reject the fundamental changes demanded by modernity  and government imposes no requirement, expectation, or obligation, voluntary or mandatory, nor even enforces existing laws such as school attendance, their children are condemned to remain shut out from the opportunities and standards of Australian society.

The truth no one will speak is that those given the most assistance are often the ones who make success impossible, defending the very conditions that keep them in failure.
https://quadrant.org.au/news-opinions/aborigines/why-the-gap-never-closes/




Which bit do you want to refute?

Frank wrote on Aug 26^th, 2025 at 11:08am:


Nope. You're burying your point of exposure.

Oh, and preening.

But nobody reads it, old boy. Try to keep it punchy.

ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 26^th, 2025 at 11:12am:

What IS your question?

I posted extensively from the article, with a link to it. I did not post the entire article. I posted its conclusion twice. It is a very succint summary. Is there any part of any of the exerpts or of the conclusion that you want to disagree with or refute? Which bit? What IS your question?

mothra wrote on Aug 26^th, 2025 at 9:44am:



Lol at this, halfwit:


Trauma Behind the Clinic Door

What I offer is testimony, a lived account of what it means to bear witness to unbearable things while working at the edge of the healthcare system.

Each day of my work in remote Aboriginal communities brought the possibility of motor vehicle accidents, suicides, severe injuries, of stabbings and killings — events that, over time, left a lasting imprint.  While it is impossible to recount them all, the two cases below offer a glimpse into the kinds of trauma I regularly faced as a remote area nurse.

In one case that still haunts me, I treated a woman whose jealous husband had forced a burning stick into her vagina and broken all her fingers. I will never forget the smell of burnt flesh or the way she flinched when I reached out to help her. There was no women’s shelter, no local psychologist, no police presence until hours later. I dressed her wounds and tried to offer comfort, but the damage was far beyond anything a bandage could fix.
That night, I didn’t sleep. I sat up, shaking — devastated not only by what had been done to her, but by the cruel reality that this kind of violence was not unusual.

Another evening at the remote clinic I was called to treat a baby boy by his mother. She had left him in the care of her sister to go drinking, and the sister decided to join the drinkers, leaving the baby alone in the backyard. A dog had torn off the baby’s nappy and ripped the skin from his scrotum. Alone in the clinic, I treated him as best I could. There was no doctor, no paediatric support, and no one to call for debriefing afterwards.

I remember wrapping him gently, speaking to him quietly, as if I could somehow undo the pain. When he heard what happened, the father of the baby picked up the animal and killed it with his bare hands.

Nurses working in remote Aboriginal communities in Australia face unique and compounding psychological burdens.  They frequently witness community-wide trauma and must often navigate moral distress while working  in under-resourced settings. These conditions result in significant mental health consequences. Remote Aboriginal communities present one of the most complex environments for health- service delivery.  Nurses stationed in these areas not only function as primary health care providers, but often take on roles as advocates, crisis responders and community members.
While these roles are vital, they expose nurses to repeated trauma resulting in emotional and psychological fatigue.  Despite growing awareness of burnout, the concepts of vicarious trauma and collateral damage remain largely unrecognised in remote health policy and practice.

Remote Aboriginal communities face some of the most confronting health and social challenges imagineable. There are disproportionately high rates of preventable chronic illnesses such as diabetes, cardiovascular and rheumatic heart diseases. Mental health conditions are often undiagnosed or untreated, compounded by overcrowded housing with up to 80% of homes in very remote Indigenous communities considered overcrowded. Rates of youth suicide in Aboriginal populations are more than twice that of non-indigenous youth, and domestic and family violence are both widespread and under-reported.

Nurses may be the only health professional for hundreds of kilometres, coping not only physical illness but acute emotional distress and community crises. Over time, this exposure becomes corrosive. Even if you don’t name it as trauma, the damage accumulates. For many, it doesn’t fully resonate until after they leave.

Vicarious trauma refers to the cumulative impact on professionals who are indirectly exposed by empathetic engagements with victims. Unlike burnout, vicarious trauma is specifically trauma-related and often mirroring post-traumatic stress disorder.

This is a serious occupational hazard for nurses who work in these challenging and isolated environments. They often care for patients who have experienced sexual abuse, violence, incarceration, substance misuse and neglect.  This continuous exposure to suffering  accumulates. One of the cruelest aspects of vicarious trauma is that nurses don’t recognise it while it is happening.  The exhaustion, insomnia, and emotional numbing feel like normal reactions to an abnormal workload. It is only once they leave the communities and stop running  day-to-day on adrenaline that the realisation of the pschological toll hits home. While working, they may appear composed and resilient, but once removed from the environment, suppressed trauma often surfaces.



https://quadrant.org.au/news-opinions/aborigines/the-trauma-behind-the-clinic-do...

Frank wrote on Aug 26^th, 2025 at 1:35pm:


Thank you, you answered the question, but do try to keep up.

You asked whether anyone can dispute the points in the article or claim parts of it are untrue.

Before tearing it apart, as you requested, it made sense to first establish a baseline of the points, so the goalposts aren't moved later.  Something you are notorious for.

By doing that, you've, perhaps unwittingly, drawn at least one line in the sand, which means when time allows, someone can review the article, the claims it makes, and highlight any that are unsupported, mere "trust me bro" opinion, or demonstrably false.

Given the source, there will likely be plenty, but we'll see once the research is done.

Your reaction, predictable as ever, will be... interesting either way.

Frank wrote on Aug 26^th, 2025 at 1:56pm:


Your problem is that you ignore what you can't handle.  Head in the sand.

The actions of a coward, too afraid to face things head-on.

Since I let the truth and facts guide me, you often have to ignore a lot of what I say to continue to protect your worldview, so this childish take of yours is of absolutely no surprise.

Frank wrote on Aug 26^th, 2025 at 3:58pm:


Settle down. I'm not in the business of fabricating answers just to suit a narrative, unlike you.

If this article is to be dealt with properly, it will require time to comb through it carefully and do the necessary research. We both know the source has a track record of pushing falsehoods and misleading claims, but whether this particular piece falls into the same category is something that needs to be tested.

That's why I asked you to clarify the points first, to gauge whether you were coming at this honestly, or if it was just going to be another exercise in bad faith. For once, perhaps accidentally, you actually managed to answer the question, which is why I'll commit to doing a deep dive on it when time permits.

Yes, there is suspicion surrounding the source, and rightly so, but the proper approach is to see how their claims stand up under scrutiny. That's how truth is established, not by grabbing at whatever headline happens to confirm the bias you already carry like a security blanket.

Sadly, the truth travels slower than the BS you usually push.

ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 25^th, 2025 at 3:19pm:



How much 'research' did you put into  this load of overblown, emoting garbage?

freediver wrote on Aug 25^th, 2025 at 5:10pm:


I have no idea what Communists or Racists believe in except that it is based on a false belief the amount of Melanin determines the worth of an individual.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...

Frank wrote on Aug 26^th, 2025 at 5:53pm:


You already embarrassed yourself once trying to twist what I said, no need to keep humiliating yourself further.

And we've all seen what unchecked racism drives people to post around here, it's not exactly subtle.

What's that, another swing and a miss?

ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 27^th, 2025 at 7:07am:



Who said this?

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Waddle forward, teapot. You said it, FULL STOP .
And then ever since you said it you have twisted it and wiggled it and yeah-but-no- butted it. And you are still at it. FULL STOP.

And everyone else should be embarrassed!!

Frank wrote on Aug 27^th, 2025 at 1:57pm:


You're not even fooling yourself with the spin and cherry picking.

Try harder.

ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 25^th, 2025 at 3:19pm:


I get it, teapot! You ARE writing for the Bee!!



WASHINGTON, DC — President Donald Trump announced this week his administration plans on nationalizing as many private businesses and companies as possible in order to fight socialism.

Following the announcement that his administration is buying a large share in floundering tech company Intel, Trump defended the move by arguing the only way to fight socialism is for the government to buy up large portions of private businesses and nationalize them.

"We must seize the means of production, comrades!" Trump announced in a press conference earlier this week. "Only then will the worker truly be free. We must control the private companies in order to stop the spread of socialism. It makes perfect sense."

After facing mounting criticism over the buy-out, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent appeared on news programs to clarify the administration's motivations.

"You see, this isn't socialism because in socialism the workers control the means of production," Bessent explains. "When the government controls business entities, it's called laissez-faire economics. Oh wait…I might have switched a few things up in my head."

At publishing time, Trump announced the federal government would also be taking control of the airlines and railroads in an effort to promote the free market and halt the spread of communism in the United States.

They want more sit down money and a few cases of VB

Victoria's last treaty with Aborigines, and Australia's watching on with mirth at the sheer fantasy of the whole thing.  Time to get with the program - your tiny percentage of population will not run the show.

Why should anyone be treated as lords and ladies living off the labour of others who have no such privileges?  And this madness from 'Labor' - 'the party of the people'.... sheer madness.

It's an unlawful agreement within Victoria alone, and can be struck down at the drop of a hat, since it is basically biased, discriminatory, racist, and and outright theft from the majority.

The People will have their voice upheld.