Australian Politics Forum - Australia's first treaty with first nations

freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51534 At my desk.	Re: Australia's first treaty with first nations Reply #15 - Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 4:18pm mothra wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 4:18pm: Working measure isn't an analogy for measure working, Fleadriver. Would you like to try again? Are you conceding that this plan will not work?
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Boris Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4438 Gender:	Re: Australia's first treaty with first nations Reply #16 - Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 4:19pm 3% of the population responsible for: 14% of child homicides 53% of missing persons - and never seen again Captain Cook's fault?
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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36239 Gender:	Re: Australia's first treaty with first nations Reply #17 - Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 4:22pm freediver wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 4:18pm: mothra wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 4:18pm: Working measure isn't an analogy for measure working, Fleadriver. Would you like to try again? Are you conceding that this plan will not work? What is wrong with you? Here's Boris. Play with him.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51534 At my desk.	Re: Australia's first treaty with first nations Reply #18 - Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 4:51pm Let's try again Mothra. Can you cite some previous examples where throwing large but secret amounts of money at a problem in order to create a solution that is inherently racist has "worked"? What makes you describe it as "brilliant" if you think it is "working" but won't actually work?
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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88901 Proud Old White Australian Man Gender:	Re: Australia's first treaty with first nations Reply #19 - Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 5:29pm Nothing but a private deal between a group of Australian citizens and Jacinta Alien, that's all it can ever be.
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Re: Australia's first treaty with first nations
Reply #20 - Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 5:31pm

Boris wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 4:19pm:

3% of the population responsible for:

14% of child homicides

53% of missing persons - and never seen again

Captain Cook's fault?

93% of women in relationship killings in the NT ...

100% of 'extrajudicial killings' caused by their attacking cops with weapons ... even Bobby's Melbadishu Khefres know when to surrender and go quietly...

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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88901 Proud Old White Australian Man Gender:	Re: Australia's first treaty with first nations Reply #21 - Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 5:32pm mothra wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 4:04pm: My god you idiots are ridiculous. This is brilliant. An actual working measure to closing the gap. Get back to us when it actually works.
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Re: Australia's first treaty with first nations
Reply #22 - Aug 23^rd, 2025 at 7:17am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 5:32pm:

mothra wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 4:04pm:

My god you idiots are ridiculous.

This is brilliant. An actual working measure to closing the gap.

Get back to us when it actually works.

So if your concern is it working, other than locking up and segregating all indigenous people into hermetically sealed enclosures and selling rich people tickets to hunt them, what would your solution be to make it work?

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Reply #23 - Aug 23^rd, 2025 at 8:30am

ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2025 at 7:17am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 5:32pm:

mothra wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 4:04pm:

My god you idiots are ridiculous.

This is brilliant. An actual working measure to closing the gap.

Get back to us when it actually works.

So if your concern is it working, other than locking up and segregating all indigenous people into hermetically sealed enclosures and selling rich people tickets to hunt them, what would your solution be to make it work?

Have you considered treating them equally before the law?

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Reply #24 - Aug 23^rd, 2025 at 10:49am

ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2025 at 7:17am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 5:32pm:

mothra wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 4:04pm:

My god you idiots are ridiculous.

This is brilliant. An actual working measure to closing the gap.

Get back to us when it actually works.

So if your concern is it working, other than locking up and segregating all indigenous people into hermetically sealed enclosures and selling rich people tickets to hunt them, what would your solution be to make it work?

ADDS:- Skanka and the kind don't want them to be treated equally under the law - they are precious and must be above the law - like sheilas think they are these days. Snide note:- do you think that if we had the traditional teachers we had 'way back' any of this 'ball-chopping' BS would have got a look-in? WTF is it with these dopey sheilas?

Wrong as usual - the entire concept of Aborassic Park began as a simple concept - to offer a Homeland and benefits through tourism and such to those who DEMANDED some 'right' to 'do things their way' and to have somewhere to put all the troublemakers and criminals - it was never a mass exodus ... only the Nirvana the dreamers think they had 'back then' and where all the 'activists' can go and be one with their 'traditional ways', and where Australia could just get rid of the troublemakers and make them the responsibility of their own people - AS THEY DEMAND.

A clear WIN in every way!!

It was never about 'locking up' and 'segregating' those who simply wanted to live an ordinary life and get along in the modern age etc - it was a GIFT of land to those imagineers who thought they knew how to do it better without Whartey's Way... but of course, Civilised Society has to be quarantined from that kind of wild way of living... can't have tribal massacres on every street, can we ..... and the idea of hunting parties was along the lines of Maverick..

"Only old and sick Indian can be hunted... ensure money for tribe - it is an honour to do that." ... and it was all a farce anyway - a pantomime for money.

Are you really that stupid? Born that way or did it take years of work and effort and head down in the books? Keep that up and you could become a 'governor-general' who clearly states her loyalty is not to the King in any way but to the PM... as in WTF?? Then why are we paying her handsomely (other than that she is an old pal on the barricades of every idiotic thing that has overtaken the West in the past forty years, leading US to Albo and the utter destruction of Australia) ... why are we paying her at all?

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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88901 Proud Old White Australian Man Gender:	Re: Australia's first treaty with first nations Reply #25 - Aug 24^th, 2025 at 11:05pm I still want to see the heroes here lay out for us what will actually improve for the Victorian half-breeds, quadroons, octoroons ans so forth under some 'treaty' that a state has no power or right to make ... WHAT is going to improve? What are the actual benefits that will flow?
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Re: Australia's first treaty with first nations
Reply #26 - Aug 25^th, 2025 at 9:18am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2025 at 10:49am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2025 at 7:17am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 5:32pm:

mothra wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 4:04pm:

My god you idiots are ridiculous.

This is brilliant. An actual working measure to closing the gap.

Get back to us when it actually works.

So if your concern is it working, other than locking up and segregating all indigenous people into hermetically sealed enclosures and selling rich people tickets to hunt them, what would your solution be to make it work?

ADDS:- Skanka

Such weakness always starts with insults.

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Re: Australia's first treaty with first nations
Reply #27 - Aug 25^th, 2025 at 11:06am

ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 25^th, 2025 at 9:18am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2025 at 10:49am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2025 at 7:17am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 5:32pm:

mothra wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 4:04pm:

My god you idiots are ridiculous.

This is brilliant. An actual working measure to closing the gap.

Get back to us when it actually works.

So if your concern is it working, other than locking up and segregating all indigenous people into hermetically sealed enclosures and selling rich people tickets to hunt them, what would your solution be to make it work?

ADDS:- Skanka

Such weakness always starts with insults.

You got that...

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Re: Australia's first treaty with first nations
Reply #28 - Aug 25^th, 2025 at 11:06am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 24^th, 2025 at 11:05pm:

I still want to see the heroes here lay out for us what will actually improve for the Victorian half-breeds, quadroons, octoroons ans so forth under some 'treaty' that a state has no power or right to make ...

WHAT is going to improve? What are the actual benefits that will flow?

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Reply #29 - Aug 25^th, 2025 at 11:14am

ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 4:08pm:

mothra wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 4:04pm:

My god you idiots are ridiculous.

This is brilliant. An actual working measure to closing the gap.

And that's the problem.

Why the Gap Never Closes

Conclusion

The reality is stark: Closing the Gap has been weaponised into an Aboriginal political tool. Remote and very remote Indigenous communities are structurally incapable of meeting its targets, not through any absence of legal rights, public funding, or government commitment, but through persistent failure at the elder, family, and community level to enforce school attendance, maintain health, ensure the safety and wellbeing of their own community and foster wellbeing. Where there is no functioning economy, participation is impossible, ensuring that the gap will never close.

While communities refuse, resist, or reject the fundamental changes demanded by modernity and government imposes no requirement, expectation, or obligation, voluntary or mandatory, nor even enforces existing laws such as school attendance, their children are condemned to remain shut out from the opportunities and standards of Australian society.

The truth no one will speak is that those given the most assistance are often the ones who make success impossible, defending the very conditions that keep them in failure.
https://quadrant.org.au/news-opinions/aborigines/why-the-gap-never-closes/

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