Australian Politics Forum - Australia's first treaty with first nations

Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 44899	Australia's first treaty with first nations Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 10:34am Victoria's First Peoples' Assembly reveals proposed treaty-backed powers to create new education facility
Back to top	It seems that I have upset a Moderator and are forbidden from using posting to the general forum now. So much for Freedom of Speech. Tsk, tsk, tsk... IP Logged

freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51527 At my desk.	Re: Australia's first treaty with first nations Reply #1 - Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 10:40am Brian do you support racial segregation in Australian schools?
Back to top	People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words. IP Logged

Sir Eoin O Fada Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3097 New England, NSW Gender:	Re: Australia's first treaty with first nations Reply #2 - Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 11:02am Note that the financial arrangements remain confidential.
Back to top	Self defence is a right. IP Logged

Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 44899	Re: Australia's first treaty with first nations Reply #3 - Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 12:12pm freediver wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 10:40am: Brian do you support racial segregation in Australian schools? I might answer your questions when you answer mine, Freediver. Tsk, tsk, tsk...
Back to top	It seems that I have upset a Moderator and are forbidden from using posting to the general forum now. So much for Freedom of Speech. Tsk, tsk, tsk... IP Logged

Belgarion Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5897 Gender:	Re: Australia's first treaty with first nations Reply #4 - Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 1:12pm A recipe for apartheid and poor education standards that will disadvantage aboriginal children.
Back to top	"I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." Voltaire.....(possibly) IP Logged

freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51527 At my desk.	Re: Australia's first treaty with first nations Reply #5 - Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 2:11pm Brian Ross wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 12:12pm: freediver wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 10:40am: Brian do you support racial segregation in Australian schools? I might answer your questions when you answer mine, Freediver. Tsk, tsk, tsk... You might not. Emoticons is about all you can handle.
Back to top	People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words. IP Logged

Sir Eoin O Fada Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3097 New England, NSW Gender:	Re: Australia's first treaty with first nations Reply #6 - Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 2:24pm One presumes that they will be able to exclude non-Aboriginal children and also to whose curriculum will they adhere?
Back to top	Self defence is a right. IP Logged

ProudKangaroo

Gold Member

Offline

The Sandstorm is coming
🎵Doo doo doo doo🎵

Posts: 21141
Meeanjin (Brisbane)

Re: Australia's first treaty with first nations
Reply #7 - Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 2:29pm

freediver wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 10:40am:

Brian do you support racial segregation in Australian schools?

Do you genuinely equate meeting the distinct educational needs of different communities with segregation?

Should we then do away with specialist schools for students who are deaf or blind, or close institutions that provide immersive language programs?

To claim that establishing a First Nations educational institute, one designed by their own people, rooted in their realities, and tailored to their needs, is somehow "racist" is absurd. That's not segregation, it's equity.

What you're really doing is twisting anti-racism into hollow slogans so you can attack Indigenous self-determination. It's prejudice dressed up as principle, hate cloaked in virtue.

Let's not confuse culturally responsive education with division. This is about justice, not separatism.

Unless, of course, this is just another excuse for the usual suspects to play the eternal victim… it's always the same script.

Back to top

IP Logged

freediver

Gold Member

Offline

www.ozpolitic.com

Posts: 51527
At my desk.

Re: Australia's first treaty with first nations
Reply #8 - Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 2:35pm

Quote:

Do you genuinely equate meeting the distinct educational needs of different communities with segregation?

There are all sorts of excuses and exceptionalism that people use to justify racism. But at the end of the day, it is still racism. Australian citizens do not need different educational institutions because of their genetics.

Back to top

People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words.

IP Logged

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM

Gold Member

Online

Australian Politics

Posts: 88890
Proud Old White Australian Man
Gender: male

Re: Australia's first treaty with first nations
Reply #9 - Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 3:36pm

Belgarion wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 1:12pm:

A recipe for apartheid and poor education standards that will disadvantage aboriginal children. Roll Eyes

That's Albo's plan - to have a permanent underclass who require the state to support them and can be a show-piece of state largesse as well as being a permanent group in rebellion to focus the minds of the ordinary folk on, and as economic times get worse and worse along with massive injections of funny people, many Wharte Australians - Tent City Slickers and such and all 'disadvantaged' people - will see the merits of being one of an underclass!!

Follow da marney!!

Back to top

“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.”
― John Adams

IP Logged

mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36239 Gender:	Re: Australia's first treaty with first nations Reply #10 - Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 4:04pm My god you idiots are ridiculous. This is brilliant. An actual working measure to closing the gap.
Back to top	If you can't be a good example, you have to be a horrible warning. IP Logged

ProudKangaroo Gold Member Offline The Sandstorm is coming 🎵Doo doo doo doo🎵 Posts: 21141 Meeanjin (Brisbane)	Re: Australia's first treaty with first nations Reply #11 - Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 4:08pm mothra wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 4:04pm: My god you idiots are ridiculous. This is brilliant. An actual working measure to closing the gap. And that's the problem.
Back to top	IP Logged

mothra

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 36239
Gender: female

Re: Australia's first treaty with first nations
Reply #12 - Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 4:14pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 4:08pm:

mothra wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 4:04pm:

My god you idiots are ridiculous.

This is brilliant. An actual working measure to closing the gap.

And that's the problem.

There's stupid then there's downright evil. We have a few from both columns on this forum. And the odd number with a foot in both camps.

Back to top

If you can't be a good example, you have to be a horrible warning.

IP Logged

freediver

Gold Member

Offline

www.ozpolitic.com

Posts: 51527
At my desk.

Re: Australia's first treaty with first nations
Reply #13 - Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 4:14pm

mothra wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 4:04pm:

My god you idiots are ridiculous.

This is brilliant. An actual working measure to closing the gap.

It is only a proposal at this stage, but already you declare it as working.

Can you cite some previous example where throwing large but secret amounts of money at a problem in order to create a solution that is inherently racist has "worked"?

Back to top

People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words.

IP Logged

mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36239 Gender:	Re: Australia's first treaty with first nations Reply #14 - Aug 22^nd, 2025 at 4:18pm Working measure isn't an analogy for measure working, Fleadriver. Would you like to try again?
Back to top	If you can't be a good example, you have to be a horrible warning. IP Logged