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Reply #15 - Aug 11^th, 2025 at 1:38pm

John Smith wrote on Aug 11^th, 2025 at 1:06pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 11^th, 2025 at 12:54pm:

But they don't advertise places as bulldozer jobs.

thats because not everyone is as useless as you and many are quite happy to fix things that aren't quite right. Many buyers actively search out these properties because they can get them cheaper.

You halfwit -
They are bulldozer jobs not repairs. Roll Eyes

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Dirty Tricks Selling Houses - Underquoting rampant Reply #16 - Aug 11^th, 2025 at 2:19pm Bobby. wrote on Aug 11^th, 2025 at 1:38pm: They are bulldozer jobs not repairs. only to idiotic morons like you
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Reply #17 - Aug 11^th, 2025 at 3:16pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 11^th, 2025 at 10:11am:

Carl,
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Speaking of dirty tricks, I wonder if governments ever got around to
banning the practice of "dummy" bidders (working for the mortgagee) at mortgagee sale auctions?

Very difficult to stop them -
the real estate agents are crooks.

Also - they sell dumps that are unfit for human habitation.
The lower end of the market are mostly houses that are only bulldozer material -
yet they sell them as habitable places.

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 56928 Gender:	Re: Dirty Tricks Selling Houses - Underquoting rampant Reply #18 - Aug 11^th, 2025 at 3:39pm Massive influxes of racist Arabs, Indians and East Asians has pushed the 'desperado' bar up into the red zone. What was $500,000 five years previously can now cash in for a $1 million sale due to a lack of quantity now making a hovel considered as 'quality' under the 'rare' opportunity gimmick.
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Reply #19 - Aug 11^th, 2025 at 3:41pm

John Smith wrote on Aug 11^th, 2025 at 1:06pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 11^th, 2025 at 12:54pm:

But they don't advertise places as bulldozer jobs.

thats because not everyone is as useless as you and many are quite happy to fix things that aren't quite right. Many buyers actively search out these properties because they can get them cheaper.

but how good is the fix-up job ? Unless you are in the know you could be buying a lemon and later spending another 50k or more.

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@cathiematthews1359
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I agree! Paint, new tiles and flooring. Maybe some new lights. Some new curtains. But the stuff that matters is still the same, and will probably need to be replaced- plumbing, electrical, structural, water damage- could cost hundreds of thousands to fix!

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@damonroberts7372
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Not only that, I'm not convinced the improvements are deeper than cosmetic. For instance, take a close look at that tiled roof. I think it sags in spots. Flippers rarely want to tackle structural issues like rot or termites, they just divert your attention with a fresh coat of paint and a Kaboodle kitchen.

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@raulf100

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its a dulux rebuild. walk. water damage on eaves comes from sagging roof/ structural damage. lipstick on a pig

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Im an interior carpenter by trade. You are both right and wrong. Yes you should have bought the place when you could (and im in the exact same position as you right now) however this "reno" was bargain basement and will fall apart in the coming years. As another commenter said, lipstick on a pig. Whoever bought this got their foot in the door, but their headaches are just around the corner. The only people winning right now are sellers.

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 56928 Gender:	Re: Dirty Tricks Selling Houses - Underquoting rampant Reply #20 - Aug 11^th, 2025 at 3:48pm I have a great Ocean view, basic traffic noise pollution. Plenty of parking. No congested crowds. ...didn't have to pay millions for it either.
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Reply #21 - Aug 11^th, 2025 at 4:38pm

Jasin wrote on Aug 11^th, 2025 at 3:48pm:

I have a great Ocean view, basic traffic noise pollution. Plenty of parking. No congested crowds.
...didn't have to pay millions for it either. Tongue

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 56928 Gender:	Re: Dirty Tricks Selling Houses - Underquoting rampant Reply #22 - Aug 11^th, 2025 at 5:06pm You're such a wank yank. Squatters in Australia are rich landowners sheep dip. The word you need to use is "swaggie". Nah. I have a nice two room place with carport and ocean views just 5 min drive to the beaches.
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Reply #23 - Aug 11^th, 2025 at 5:19pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 11^th, 2025 at 10:11am:

Very difficult to stop them -
the real estate agents are crooks.

Also - they sell dumps that are unfit for human habitation.
The lower end of the market are mostly houses that are only bulldozer material -
yet they sell them as habitable places.

https://x.com/purplepingers/status/1953386570137952733

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If I was paying $1350 per week I’d probably want a kitchen that wasn’t in the bathroom as a bare minimum

https://x.com/purplepingers/status/1953101626308186275

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My brother in Christ this is not an apartment this is someone’s garage.

https://x.com/purplepingers/status/1952312239912071231

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If anyone was wondering, yes it's Ray White.

https://x.com/purplepingers/status/1951150989806825819

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The photoshopped waterfront views 💀

https://x.com/purplepingers/status/1947862196220055687

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Still just wanna chat about this rental you’ve got listed for $550pw Ray White - feel free to email or call anytime

And many, many more.

In fact, he has a whole website devoted to this BS.

Australia... a land of sweeping plains. And scammers and con artists.

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Reply #25 - Aug 11^th, 2025 at 6:32pm

Did anyone see it ?

Recommendations to make the reserve price public and mandatory property inspections and pest inspections.

Many people spending $$$$ on their own inspections only to be outbid at the auction. Doesn't make sense that a buyer should be out of pocket for something that should be made available to prospective buyers.

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Reply #26 - Aug 11^th, 2025 at 6:57pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 11^th, 2025 at 6:32pm:

Did anyone see it ?

Make the reserve price public and mandatory property inspections and pest inspections.

Many people spending $$$$ on their own inspections only to be outbid at the auction. Doesn't make sense that a buyer should be out of pocket for something that should be made available to prospective buyers.

hear hear sir Nail,
I agree with that.

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Reply #27 - Aug 11^th, 2025 at 7:19pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 11^th, 2025 at 12:54pm:

Leroy wrote on Aug 11^th, 2025 at 10:29am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 11^th, 2025 at 10:11am:

Carl,
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Speaking of dirty tricks, I wonder if governments ever got around to
banning the practice of "dummy" bidders (working for the mortgagee) at mortgagee sale auctions?

Very difficult to stop them -
the real estate agents are crooks.

Also - they sell dumps that are unfit for human habitation.
The lower end of the market are mostly houses that are only bulldozer material -
yet they sell them as habitable places.

Not so, real estate agents only represent the seller they do not own the property. Buyers have a responsibility to have the property inspected and checked before buying. If someone buys a dump they already knew it was a dump before they bought it.

Nobody buys a house without making sure it is habitable and if they do then that is not the agents error, the buyer knew that before they purchased the property.

But they don't advertise places as bulldozer jobs.
You should have seen some of the houses I saw. Shocked

Blocked sewers - toilet water overflows out of bowl when flushed.
Bricks able to pulled out of the side of the house with my bare hands -
mortar had turned into loose sand,
huge cracks in the brick walls due to foundations being undermined
by gutters never having been cleaned and water overflowing for 10 years.
Completely rusted out gutters in the roof.
Floors moving up and down as you walked as the stumps were all gone.
Signs of water damage.
Masking tape put over cracks in walls and then painted.
Signs of termite damage.
Asbestos used everywhere.
No electricity or gas connected so you can't test any appliances.
Even an inspector can't test them.
Really low pressure water as the pipes were nearly blocked.

All sold as a great place to move into and live. WTF?

2 years later you find out the place had been bulldozed and a new house built
at great expense.

your problem Bobby is you don't have your own agent, I have been using the same agent for over 20 years, If I see a property I'm interested in I ring her and she will tell me if it is worth me looking. You have to build a relationship with an agent and get your monies worth. People just don't know how to use an agent to work for them and build trust. They are normal people like you and me and if you get to know one that you like you can have a excellent resource to use when buying or selling property. My agent knows what I like and don't like and she will only call me if its something I would like. I really don't care what other agents advertise because advertising is not something I consider when buying.

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Reply #28 - Aug 11^th, 2025 at 7:43pm

Leroy wrote on Aug 11^th, 2025 at 7:19pm:

your problem Bobby is you don't have your own agent, I have been using the same agent for over 20 years, If I see a property I'm interested in I ring her and she will tell me if it is worth me looking. You have to build a relationship with an agent and get your monies worth. People just don't know how to use an agent to work for them and build trust. They are normal people like you and me and if you get to know one that you like you can have a excellent resource to use when buying or selling property. My agent knows what I like and don't like and she will only call me if its something I would like. I really don't care what other agents advertise because advertising is not something I consider when buying.

That's true -
I found in a few suburbs that the best bargains were all sold
within 5 hours of going on the market.
Obviously agents had phoned up a buyer they knew.

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Reply #29 - Aug 11^th, 2025 at 7:47pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 11^th, 2025 at 3:41pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 11^th, 2025 at 1:06pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 11^th, 2025 at 12:54pm:

But they don't advertise places as bulldozer jobs.

thats because not everyone is as useless as you and many are quite happy to fix things that aren't quite right. Many buyers actively search out these properties because they can get them cheaper.

but how good is the fix-up job ? Unless you are in the know you could be buying a lemon and later spending another 50k or more.

so get a building inspection Roll Eyes

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