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Reply #30 - Aug 7th, 2025 at 1:48pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Aug 7th, 2025 at 1:39pm:
Good feedback.
Food for thought


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Reply #31 - Aug 7th, 2025 at 1:52pm
 
ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 7th, 2025 at 1:48pm:

Well, well, well... sometimes someone reads your TLDRs.
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Reply #32 - Aug 7th, 2025 at 2:11pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 7th, 2025 at 1:52pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 7th, 2025 at 1:48pm:

Well, well, well... sometimes someone reads your TLDRs.



You bet.
The longer the better.
When most of the population can't finish a 12 second tik tok
Learning to maintain focus is a superpower.
Try Atlas Shrugged
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Reply #33 - Aug 7th, 2025 at 3:32pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Aug 7th, 2025 at 2:11pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 7th, 2025 at 1:52pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 7th, 2025 at 1:48pm:

Well, well, well... sometimes someone reads your TLDRs.



You bet.
The longer the better.
When most of the population can't finish a 12 second tik tok
Learning to maintain focus is a superpower.
Try Atlas Shrugged

Well, more power to you... It's a good habit to have...

But, like food, it depends on what you're digesting.

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Reply #34 - Aug 7th, 2025 at 4:33pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 7th, 2025 at 3:32pm:
aquascoot wrote on Aug 7th, 2025 at 2:11pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 7th, 2025 at 1:52pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 7th, 2025 at 1:48pm:

Well, well, well... sometimes someone reads your TLDRs.



You bet.
The longer the better.
When most of the population can't finish a 12 second tik tok
Learning to maintain focus is a superpower.
Try Atlas Shrugged

Well, more power to you... It's a good habit to have...

But, like food, it depends on what you're digesting.



Sort of.

You have the rights to the fruits of the effort.
You don't have the rights to the result.

I call this " process orientation" and it's a killer on terms of enjoying life.

I realized this from fishing and surfing.
Many colleagues would get butt hurt if they didn't catch fish or catch waves.
They were chasing a result.
But if you just enjoy the water, the result doesn't matter.

If you enjoy reading because it is building your focus, the result isn't really the point.

I believe you learn only a little from reading or listening or watching
You learn 10 x from action.

You want to learn about, for instance, how to run a business or interact with people, just start one or decide to talk to everyone.
I talk to every Uber driver , check out operator, service station worker, bank teller , person in a queue I can lay my hands on
The kids thought it was weird but its just practicing social skills.
Now the kids run an online 7 figure business.
They get energized from social interactions


Like I said.  " Process orientation"

If you aren't talking to every Uber driver, I would ask you " why not"
If you aren't building focus by reading war and peace, I would ask " why not " Smiley
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Reply #35 - Aug 7th, 2025 at 4:38pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Aug 7th, 2025 at 11:10am:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Aug 7th, 2025 at 10:59am:
aquascoot wrote on Aug 7th, 2025 at 7:33am:
Trump understands one of my favourite marketing teachers , the legendary  John Carlton s maxim


Make your mess your message.

It makes you seem congruent and in control of the frame.

Like when Kerry packer was asked why he paid a low tax rate and replied
Only a total f wit pays one cent more then he has to.

People respect strong men who feature their flaws and own their actions.

Everyone basically wants pussy and cash.

But rich people are often embarrassed and pretend they just want to be like George clooney and go dig wells for the pygmies or Bill gates and go vaccinate Ethiopians ( whilst stealing their blood for a gene databank).

The public don't buy it.

What you can't fake, you feature.

Own it
Be unapologetic.

It builds trust that you aren't a 2 faced phoney.

Trump loves cash and pussy.

He doesn't lose a single vote by being attacked over his love of cash and pussy, because he does nothing but talk about how he loves cash and pussy.

Smart marketing. Wink


Ah yes, the gospel according to Facebook marketers, where moral bankruptcy is rebranded as "authenticity" and sociopathy is just "smart branding."

The idea that "owning your flaws" makes you a better leader might hold some weight if we were talking about human flaws, like doubt, grief, or mistakes.

But what you're celebrating Scoot is unrepentant greed and misogyny.

Trump's "flaws" aren't flaws in the human sense, they're warning signs.

If a bloke walked into a job interview and said "I love money and rooting, and I don't pay tax," he wouldn't be seen as strong, he'd be shown the door. But slap a flag pin on him and suddenly he's a prophet of the working class?

And this Kerry Packer quote, every halfwit tax cheat uses it like it's holy writ. Packer said that while sitting atop a mountain of inherited wealth, running monopolies or businesses propped up by tax payer funds, while dodging taxes the average punter has no choice but to pay. It's not wisdom, it's a smirk from the top of the food chain while the rest of us fund hospitals and roads.

It's no surprise that triggers your admiration.

Then comes the real caveman insight: "Everyone wants pussy and cash." Right, so the entire human condition is just a byproduct of unresolved incel fantasies?

What a bleak, adolescent worldview.

Apparently, altruism doesn't exist, unless it's Bill Gates secretly harvesting African DNA like it's a Bond villain subplot. If you think that's clever marketing, you've already drunk the Kool-Aid and asked for seconds.

Here's the truth: Trump isn't "owning his flaws", he's weaponising them. There's a difference.

Owning your flaws means changing, growing, taking responsibility.

Trump does none of that.

Ever.

He just floods the zone with shamelessness until the outrage fatigue sets in and the bar drops through the floor. And the fact that people are mistaking that for strength says more about their standards than his strategy.

I'm looking at you Scoot.  You and Frank have dropped the bar so low for Trump that you now find yourselves defending paedophiles.

How did that happen!?

But sure, keep calling it "marketing" if it helps you sleep at night. Just don't pretend it's noble, smart, or honest. It's not. It's just the tired old grift of a man who figured out he could fail upward if he lied loud enough and often enough. And some of you still clap.

Egad, just realised how long that post turned out, almost guaranteed to send Frank and Scoot scurrying for the hills again, pretending they haven't seen it so they don't have to respond.

Standard playbook: ignore anything that forces them to think, especially if it's longer than a meme or doesn't end in "lol."

https://i.imgur.com/hNxsbdu.png



Studying and understanding a situation is neither celebrating it nor endorsing it.

Try again


He's right, Sad. When has Aquascoot ever defended, deflected, denied, spinelessly apologized for and outright worshipped the big fella?

Go on, quote him.

Why must the left lie?
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Re: trumps heist
Reply #36 - Aug 7th, 2025 at 4:48pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Aug 7th, 2025 at 1:41pm:
Carl D wrote on Aug 7th, 2025 at 1:15pm:
aquascoot wrote on Aug 7th, 2025 at 1:04pm:
Enormous opportunities to contribute.
I can name a half dozen farmers in their 80s.


Why not do seasonal fruit and vegetables picking?
Get fit, fresh air, meet people, make cash, see the country. Contribute 😀


Nah, brain surgeon still sounds good.

Now, come here and let me practice. I've already done the scan.

Where's that magnifying glass gone?



No problem Carl
Enjoy the great indoors


Well, I've just returned from a nice 2km walk.

Beautiful warm(ish) day in Perth today for a change.

Now, what have you been up to while I was out *checks out posts above* Oh, more meaningless words salads, I see.

So, who's been "enjoying the great indoors" for the past couple of hours? Hint: not me.  Smiley
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Reply #37 - Aug 7th, 2025 at 4:50pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Aug 7th, 2025 at 1:04pm:
Carl D wrote on Aug 7th, 2025 at 11:49am:
aquascoot wrote on Aug 7th, 2025 at 11:08am:
Carl D wrote on Aug 7th, 2025 at 10:24am:
Funny, I always thought the role of any government and its leader (President in the case of the United States) was to serve the people and improve their living conditions and health, etc.

My bad... I should have known better (I did, I'm just being sarcastic). The role of governments these days.. and it's been like this for a long time.. is to make as much money for themselves as they can and screw the people (literally screw them in a few cases as we've seen).

Must be the reason why I see Australia's government referred to as "gov.corp" fairly often on some forums.


Yep.
The role of a leader should be to serve the public.
It rarely is.
It is to get re elected and do a good PR job.

The role of a citizen should be to contribute to the nation,  the community , the workplace and improve society
It rarely is.
It is to extract maximal resources from the nation whilst limiting contribution as much as possible.

You yourself are proud that this is your behaviour Carl.

You can hardly complain about it when you are the problem  Embarrassed


I'm 68, retired and on the pension you muppet.

What is it exactly that you think I should be doing right now? Building roads? Bricklaying? Brain surgeon? (now that's an idea, pays quite a lot too. Can I practice on your brain to start with (assuming I can find it, might need a magnifying glass)?

Smiley



Enormous opportunities to contribute.
I can name a half dozen farmers in their 80s.


Why not do seasonal fruit and vegetables picking?
Get fit, fresh air, meet people, make cash, see the country. Contribute 😀


Aquascoot has a point, Carl. Don't be a Debbie Downer. Do something positive for the community.

Why not take up ropemaking?

You get to use your hands, meet fellow ropemakers and see heaps of interesting warehouses.

They say jute brings out the best in people. Does the phrase money for old rope ring a bell?

You're never to old to give it a go, no?

Something tells me Aquascoot's had Dr Phil on, but that's just me.

Just putting it out there, mkay?
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Reply #38 - Aug 7th, 2025 at 4:54pm
 
Melanias purse wrote on Aug 7th, 2025 at 4:50pm:
aquascoot wrote on Aug 7th, 2025 at 1:04pm:
Carl D wrote on Aug 7th, 2025 at 11:49am:
aquascoot wrote on Aug 7th, 2025 at 11:08am:
Carl D wrote on Aug 7th, 2025 at 10:24am:
Funny, I always thought the role of any government and its leader (President in the case of the United States) was to serve the people and improve their living conditions and health, etc.

My bad... I should have known better (I did, I'm just being sarcastic). The role of governments these days.. and it's been like this for a long time.. is to make as much money for themselves as they can and screw the people (literally screw them in a few cases as we've seen).

Must be the reason why I see Australia's government referred to as "gov.corp" fairly often on some forums.


Yep.
The role of a leader should be to serve the public.
It rarely is.
It is to get re elected and do a good PR job.

The role of a citizen should be to contribute to the nation,  the community , the workplace and improve society
It rarely is.
It is to extract maximal resources from the nation whilst limiting contribution as much as possible.

You yourself are proud that this is your behaviour Carl.

You can hardly complain about it when you are the problem  Embarrassed


I'm 68, retired and on the pension you muppet.

What is it exactly that you think I should be doing right now? Building roads? Bricklaying? Brain surgeon? (now that's an idea, pays quite a lot too. Can I practice on your brain to start with (assuming I can find it, might need a magnifying glass)?

Smiley



Enormous opportunities to contribute.
I can name a half dozen farmers in their 80s.


Why not do seasonal fruit and vegetables picking?
Get fit, fresh air, meet people, make cash, see the country. Contribute 😀


Aquascoot has a point, Carl. You're never to old to live.

Why not take up ropemaking?

You get to use your hands, meet fellow ropemakers and see heaps of interesting warehouses.

They say jute brings out the best in people. Does the phrase money for old rope ring a bell?

You're never to old to give it a go, no?

Something tells me Aquascoot's had Dr Phil on, but that's just me.

Just putting it out there, mkay?


Karnal I just got my MAGA weekly and you can buy two MAGA caps for the price of three, should I buy it?.
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Reply #39 - Aug 7th, 2025 at 5:08pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Aug 7th, 2025 at 4:33pm:
I talk to every Uber driver , check out operator, service station worker, bank teller , person in a queue I can lay my hands on

Yeah, I'd go easy on that...

People might think you're Welsh.
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Reply #40 - Aug 7th, 2025 at 5:09pm
 
Leroy wrote on Aug 7th, 2025 at 4:54pm:
I just got my MAGA weekly

What was the main article? 'This Week in Fisting'?
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Reply #41 - Aug 7th, 2025 at 5:11pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 7th, 2025 at 5:08pm:
aquascoot wrote on Aug 7th, 2025 at 4:33pm:
I talk to every Uber driver , check out operator, service station worker, bank teller , person in a queue I can lay my hands on

Yeah, I'd go easy on that...

People might think you're Welsh.


That's part of the training.
Not giving a f what people think 🤔
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Reply #42 - Aug 7th, 2025 at 5:19pm
 
Carl D wrote on Aug 7th, 2025 at 4:48pm:
aquascoot wrote on Aug 7th, 2025 at 1:41pm:
Carl D wrote on Aug 7th, 2025 at 1:15pm:
aquascoot wrote on Aug 7th, 2025 at 1:04pm:
Enormous opportunities to contribute.
I can name a half dozen farmers in their 80s.


Why not do seasonal fruit and vegetables picking?
Get fit, fresh air, meet people, make cash, see the country. Contribute 😀


Nah, brain surgeon still sounds good.

Now, come here and let me practice. I've already done the scan.

Where's that magnifying glass gone?



No problem Carl
Enjoy the great indoors


Well, I've just returned from a nice 2km walk.

Beautiful warm(ish) day in Perth today for a change.

Now, what have you been up to while I was out *checks out posts above* Oh, more meaningless words salads, I see.

So, who's been "enjoying the great indoors" for the past couple of hours? Hint: not me.  Smiley


Nor me.

20 degrees today - a heat wave!

I had a nice long walk around the 100 acre property I'm staying at near Gidgegannup.

Now I'm sitting on the back porch, with a glass of red, watching the roos move across the back yard under the gum trees.

...
               (Stock photo - not my actual back yard)
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Reply #43 - Aug 7th, 2025 at 7:57pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 7th, 2025 at 5:09pm:
Leroy wrote on Aug 7th, 2025 at 4:54pm:
I just got my MAGA weekly

What was the main article? 'This Week in Fisting'?


Sustainable fishing, I think.
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Reply #44 - Aug 8th, 2025 at 8:48am
 
aquascoot wrote on Aug 7th, 2025 at 4:33pm:
I talk to every Uber driver , check out operator, service station worker, bank teller , person in a queue I can lay my hands on


That's honestly been one of the more difficult parts of volunteering with Meals on Wheels, though probably not for the reasons you're imagining.

Nearly every delivery turns into a conversation, 10, 20, sometimes 30 minutes. And while yes, part of the role includes a welfare check, we're technically not supposed to enter the home, though there are exceptions.

I'll often be offered tea, biscuits, even a seat at the table, but ultimately, I'm there to deliver food safely. That said, if the recipient needs assistance, and I've got the appropriate PPE, I'll go in and help them store it properly in the fridge. It's a balancing act, mine and their safety, service policy, and basic human decency.

The official rule may be doorstep drop-off, but I've been doing this long before COVID, and over time, you earn a little discretion. You learn the rhythm, the nuance. For many of them, widows, widowers, it's less about the meal and more about companionship. That interaction might be their only one all day.

Of course, not everyone wants to talk. And that's fine too. But here's the thing I've come to understand over the years, and this is where your take, Scoot, starts to ring hollow: the people you're talking about, the ones on the other end of the phone, or behind the counter, they're not chatting because they want to. They're doing it because it's part of the customer service script.

You might think they're engaging with you, but often you're just a disruption to their day. And the older some get, the less self-aware they are about this, or they feel entitled to the attention, and the inconvenience it causes others simply doesn't register.

I genuinely hope you're getting something useful from these experiences. But like many of the things you seem to champion, I wonder if this is just another case of interpreting the world in a way that reinforces the narrative you've already decided you want to believe.
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