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Question: Finally a fantastic decision for the RAN

Scomo should pay for the sub debacle    
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After Scomo wasted billions. Don’t vote lnp    
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Scomo needs to face a royal commission    
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Labor supported the failed sub deal!    
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We have better wine and cheese than the French    
  2 (16.7%)
I’m just happy our Navy has a future    
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I fish and I vote    
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China should have put in a offer?    
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Total votes: 12
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Reply #45 - Aug 8th, 2025 at 5:12pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Aug 7th, 2025 at 9:11pm:
There is a problem there.  We don't have sufficient budget to do both things. Australia has limited budgetary means, it can afford to spend money on expensive ships or expensive rescue organisations. 



Why?

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Reply #46 - Aug 8th, 2025 at 7:03pm
 
They spent $450m on their Voice campaign.
$29m on a flagpole.
$20m to Hamas
Millions each year to Indonesia
...the list goes on.
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #47 - Aug 8th, 2025 at 7:26pm
 
Good posts.

I've done Marine Rescue and when it had to rescue 35 naval personnel. Of course, you'll never hear about such naval incompetence, for obvious reasons. But the fact is that the Military mindset is not 'safe' and it has shown time and again. Even joining Academic divers for research, we could tell that we would have to keep an eye on their 'clumsy' ways.

The ADF should not be the main excuse for Rescues. It's not their forte. It's not... military. It may appear they are doing a good job. But it's only because Australia does not have an effective National Rescue industry that would do an even better job of it.

I'm sorry to say, but Australia, Great Britain and USA has a medical-rescue culture-industry akin to nothing more than a sick bay in a Military Base and Parliament house.
I can tell you that European, NZ to Cuba and even South Africa have far superior trained and professional Medical & Rescue personnel.
That's fine. Each region has its strengths. But Medical/Rescue is not one of Australia's. Like I said, the fact that most of it runs on the vapours of Volunteer and Donations, says a lot.

But the root cause is tax-payer's money being spent on all the wrong things. $450m for Media for the Voice campaign. $29m for a flagpole on the SHBridge, $20m to Hamas and so on. Flippant and frivolous spendings into dead ends.

Let the Military do it's Defence (invading other countries for America). While the Medical should be doing the Rescuing. It's a pretty normal act of true professions in other countries here.
But at the moment under Albo, it seems it's all about appeasing a Media image as if he was some actor from Hollywood.
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #48 - Aug 9th, 2025 at 2:37pm
 
I have watched and waited for all those that “should know “ to identity the link between the announcement on that particular day.

But alas it appears history is easily forgotten.




https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowra_breakout
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I don’t care about Australians who are living in poverty or their businesses have gone bankrupt or those working hard and still struggling to survive.

BAN THE BURKA!

That’s fair more important!

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Reply #49 - Aug 9th, 2025 at 6:32pm
 
Advanced warship?
Another toy for the boys.
Can it compete against some other Nations’ steam submarines?
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Self defence is a right.
 
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Reply #50 - Aug 10th, 2025 at 5:44pm
 
Regarding these latest toys, they are going to cost billions of dollars.
Meanwhile our native wildlife is being threatened by imported predators and imported weeds, the fire ants and cane toads adapt and are moving South.
Camels and donkeys, in increasing numbers, are destroying native species’ habitat and the camels also posing a threat to humans as well.

A few of the apparently inexhaustible billions could be spent on these real everyday problems, but it wouldn’t look good in the history books to be remembered for eradicating fire ants.
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Reply #51 - Aug 12th, 2025 at 12:44am
 
“The "wa borer" likely refers to the Polyphagous shot-hole borer (PSHB), an invasive beetle detected in Western Australia (WA) since 2021. It attacks a wide range of trees by tunnelling into them and introducing a fungus that can kill the tree. The borer is particularly problematic because it has no known chemical treatment and can spread easily through infested wood. “

I believe that the federal government has a clever plan.
By allowing the borers to destroy every tree in western Australian and advance East while at the same time protecting and allowing the fire ants to move south while NSW Minns government fails to stop land clearing of endangered Koalas habitats eventually the fire ants and borers will meet near the Victoria and south Australian border and fight it out!

This clever strategy will mean our  Albo government will have to  do nothing effective and just stand on the roof and play fiddle as Australian land is slowly destroyed and our wildlife destroyed.

I’m sure if they can they will award themselves an environmental certificate for their actions!

It’s not funny because it’s true- LOOK OVER THE OTHER SIDE THE WORLD, nothing to see here in Australia too worried about 😞😒
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I don’t care about Australians who are living in poverty or their businesses have gone bankrupt or those working hard and still struggling to survive.

BAN THE BURKA!

That’s fair more important!

Ffs
 
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Reply #52 - Aug 12th, 2025 at 12:48am
 
Well under a Lefty government in power.
Don't expect much benefit to Right-wing industries like Military and Politics itself.
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Reply #53 - Aug 12th, 2025 at 1:01am
 
Albo government is just grabbing any opportunity to distract from its own failures to deliver assistance to Australian families and instead pretending to be world saviours.
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I don’t care about Australians who are living in poverty or their businesses have gone bankrupt or those working hard and still struggling to survive.

BAN THE BURKA!

That’s fair more important!

Ffs
 
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