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Arab states call for Hamas to disarm and FO
Aug 2^nd, 2025 at 3:17pm

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Arab states call on Hamas to disarm and relinquish power in unprecedented move

Jul 31, 2025

Arab and Muslim states including Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Egypt have for the first time issued a joint call for Hamas to disarm and relinquish power in the Gaza Strip as part of efforts to end the war in the territory.

The 22-member Arab League, the entire European Union and another 17 countries backed a declaration signed at a United Nations conference co-hosted by Saudi Arabia and France on Tuesday.

The meeting in New York aimed to address “the peaceful settlement of the question of Palestine and the implementation of the Two-State Solution,” and the declaration lays out what steps the signatories think should be taken next.

“Governance, law enforcement and security across all Palestinian territory must lie solely with the Palestinian Authority, with appropriate international support,” the joint document read, adding that “in the context of ending the war in Gaza, Hamas must end its rule in Gaza and hand over its weapons to the Palestinian Authority, with international engagement and support, in line with the objective of a sovereign and independent Palestinian State.”

The text also condemned the deadly October 7, 2023 attack by Hamas on Israel,and proposed the deployment of “a temporary international stabilization mission” upon invitation by the PA and “under the aegis of the United Nations.”

“We welcomed the readiness expressed by some Member States to contribute in troops,” it said.

France, who co-chaired the conference, called the declaration “unprecedented.”

Speaking at the UN Tuesday, Jean-Noël Barrot, the French foreign minister, said that “on the part of Saudi Arabia and the Arab and Muslim countries who for the first time will condemn terrorism, the acts of terror on the 7th of October, a call for the disarmament of Hamas and expressed their hope to have a normalized relationship with Israel in due time.”

Both mediators in ceasefire negotiations, Qatar and Egypt have maintained ties with Hamas and Israel throughout the war.

In March, a plan for Gaza formulated by Egypt excluded Hamas from governance of the enclave once the war ends, a draft of the plan obtained by CNN showed.

The plan was discussed by Arab leaders meeting in Cairo in an emergency summit, with Egypt’s president proposing a Palestinian committee to temporarily govern Gaza – taking over from Hamas and eventually handing power to the Palestinian Authority (PA).

Saudi Arabia has repeatedly pushed for a revival of the two-state solution.

France has said it will vote to recognize a Palestinian state in September, to Israel’s dismay. The United Kingdom also said it will recognize a Palestinian state in September unless Israel agrees to a ceasefire in Gaza. Both Israel and the United States condemned France and Britain’s statements.

Hamas has, however, shown no signs of relinquishing power in the enclave, yet officials within the militant group have in the past given contradictory statements about the movement’s role in a post-war Gaza.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/07/30/middleeast/arab-league-hamas-gaza-israel-intl

Arab muslim countries call Hamas terrorists.

Lefties who support Hamas and Palestine Islamic Jihad support Islamic terrorists.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 52071 At my desk.	Re: Arab states call for Hamas to disarm and FO Reply #1 - Aug 2^nd, 2025 at 3:19pm Even the Muslims now realise that the only people standing in the way of a Palestinian state are the Palestinians. I wonder when Greg and John and Nail will catch on.
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Reply #2 - Aug 2^nd, 2025 at 3:28pm

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Hamas has, however, shown no signs of relinquishing power in the enclave

They won't give up - and why should they?

Every night they sleep well, in tunnels deep underground.
They get the lion's share of all the food and water while
the women and children take all the bullets and earthquake bombs dropped on them.
They only come to the surface when they are bored -
just to take a few pot shots at any IDF forces and then scurry underground again -
like rats - before they can be located and killed.

They only care about themselves not the Palestinian people.

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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16339 Gender:	Re: Arab states call for Hamas to disarm and FO Reply #3 - Aug 2^nd, 2025 at 3:33pm freediver wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2025 at 3:19pm: Even the Muslims now realise that the only people standing in the way of a Palestinian state are the Palestinians. I wonder when Greg and John and Nail will catch on. Who are 'the Muslims'?
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 52071 At my desk.	Re: Arab states call for Hamas to disarm and FO Reply #4 - Aug 2^nd, 2025 at 3:34pm It's all explained in the opening post Meister.
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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16339 Gender:	Re: Arab states call for Hamas to disarm and FO Reply #5 - Aug 2^nd, 2025 at 3:38pm freediver wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2025 at 3:34pm: It's all explained in the opening post Meister. What do you mean by 'the Muslims'?
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Reply #6 - Aug 2^nd, 2025 at 3:44pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2025 at 3:38pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2025 at 3:34pm:

It's all explained in the opening post Meister.

What do you mean by 'the Muslims'?

I mean the people referred to in the opening post Meister. Honestly, it would be easier for you to just read the rest of the thread rather than getting me to fill you in. Do try to keep up.

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Reply #7 - Aug 2^nd, 2025 at 3:49pm

freediver wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2025 at 3:44pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2025 at 3:38pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2025 at 3:34pm:

It's all explained in the opening post Meister.

What do you mean by 'the Muslims'?

I mean the people referred to in the opening post Meister. Honestly, it would be easier for you to just read the rest of the thread rather than getting me to fill you in. Do try to keep up.

Do you mean the Arab League?

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 52071 At my desk.	Re: Arab states call for Hamas to disarm and FO Reply #8 - Aug 2^nd, 2025 at 3:55pm I was the second person to post in the thread Meister. I thought it was bleeding obvious that I was referring to the opening post. Was it not obvious to you?
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Reply #9 - Aug 2^nd, 2025 at 3:58pm

freediver wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2025 at 3:55pm:

I was the second person to post in the thread Meister. I thought it was bleeding obvious that I was referring to the opening post.

Was it not obvious to you?

So by 'the Muslims' you meant the Arab League, then.

Given your general ignorance of politics, economics, social and cultural issues, I wanted to confirm what you meant by 'the Muslims'.

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Reply #10 - Aug 3^rd, 2025 at 12:51pm

Israel is a state. It is a state set up under the explicit auspices of the United Nations, in 1947-48, in what was intended to be a rational and peaceful two-state solution to long-running disputes between the Jews and the Arabs in the British mandate territory of Palestine. The Jews accepted the UN proposal. The Arab leadership rejected it. They immediately set about trying to destroy the nascent state of Israel. They failed totally. But they have never come to the table to negotiate a two-state solution in good faith.

This is not a matter of settlements on the West Bank or of Israeli treatment of the Palestinian Authority/Fatah/Palestine Liberation Organisation. There simply has never been a Palestinian Arab leadership that was prepared to accept the radical defeat of efforts to destroy Israel and to lead Palestinian Arabs to lay down their arms and make a viable settlement with it. Neither Fatah nor Hamas seeks a two-state solution. They seek the destruction of Israel.

Hamas made that clearer than ever on October 7, 2023.

In the 1920s, the Zionists themselves debated whether an agreement with the Arabs could be reached and a Jewish state accepted in the Middle East. Ze’ev Jabotinsky and others argued pessimistically that the Arabs would not accept a Jewish state until all their efforts to destroy it had been defeated and they came to the realisation that the Jews were there to stay.

The frustration of repeated efforts at negotiation led to a shift to the right in Israeli politics – from Labor to Likud. Israelis slowly and reluctantly reached the collective conclusion that Jabotinsky had been right.

The present war has brought all this to a climax. Hamas demonstrated, once and for all, that its whole purpose was the destruction of Israel and the massacre of Jews. Iran’s brutal and fanatical regime and its Shia proxy Hezbollah in Lebanon had long made plain that their plans were annihilation of the “Zionist entity” and the Jews worldwide.

Israel has hit back with stunning effectiveness, after the initial shock of the October 7 assault by Hamas. But thousands of self-styled radicals, Muslim immigrants in the West and common citizens have rallied to the cause of Hamas and chanted explicitly anti-Zionist and anti-Semitic slogans over the past 21 months. Those slogans are not simply criticisms of the way in which Israel has responded to its avowed enemies and an atrocious assault on its citizens.

They pivot on the supposedly Marxist insistence that Israel is itself a Western, “white”, neo-colonial and imperialist project. Much of the angry support for Israel’s Arab enemies springs from that premise.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/inquirer/claims-of-alleged-zionist-imperialism-...
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Reply #11 - Aug 3^rd, 2025 at 1:00pm

freediver wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2025 at 3:19pm:

Even the Muslims now realise that the only people standing in the way of a Palestinian state are the Palestinians.

I wonder when Greg and John and Nail will catch on.

This week, the Australian government edged closer calling for Palestinian statehood. Its weakness is malignant. Meanwhile, all 72 members of the Arab League issued their own statement, demanding Hamas surrender, release the hostages and disband. They know. Oh they know, all right …

What motivation would Hamas have to do that? It has the West where it wants it regarding statehood, and if our government and others are dumb enough to believe that’s where it will stop, then these are perilous times indeed.

I don’t care who you are. A normal, run-of-the-mill person like me, a newspaper editor, a publisher, a journalist, a housewife, a teacher a gardener. The Prime Minister, the Foreign Minister. I don’t care. If you are OK to weaponise and exploit the sickness of a child suffering since birth with serious health issues, simply to push your anti-Israel agenda, you aren’t just part of the problem, you are the problem.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/useful-idiots-of-the-west-target-isr...

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Reply #12 - Aug 8^th, 2025 at 1:34pm

London: Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office says Israel’s security cabinet has approved a plan to take over Gaza City, shunning global calls for a ceasefire amid mounting casualties from the war.

The decision on Friday marks another escalation of Israel’s 22-month military operation to wipe out Hamas, a listed terrorist group.

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Asked earlier on Fox News whether Israel would take control of all of Gaza, Netanyahu had said: “We intend to, in order to assure our security, remove Hamas there, enable the population to be free of [Hamas] and to pass it to civilian governance that is not Hamas and not anyone advocating the destruction of Israel,” Netanyahu had earlier told Fox News.

https://www.theage.com.au/world/middle-east/israel-intends-to-take-over-gaza-net...

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Reply #13 - Aug 10^th, 2025 at 10:21pm

Israel is readying to assault thelast Hamas stronghold and finish that phase of this war started by Hamas.

What IS your problem? You want them left alone so they can rebuild and do it again? Or Hamas abolished completely and a new chance given to the honest people of Gaza to prosper? Lebanon has ordered the disarmament of Hezbollah at the same time..

Freed from a violent and merciless death cult, the ordinary people of Gaza will welcome the chance to get ahead and have a decent life for selves and families. That's the way of it all over the world, and despite the 'dancing in the streets' - that echoes exactly like the deep mourning of the death of a North Korean dictator - mourn and weep and wail or you die - you are all totally bereft (or dance, pardner) and you'd better believe it!!

The poor bastards would do that or be shot as traitors.... wake up...

In the year before 7/10 - Israel INCREASED visa passes into Israel to Gazans so they could work and earn good money - and the reward was? And how many hundreds of normal fathers and grand-fathers who went to their 'government' Hamas to request that they be permitted to move their families away from the fighting and death were shot like dogs as 'traitors'? How many ordinary people there were shot as traitors of the Zionists for not being 500% behind the death cult?

WAKE UP!

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