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Re: Trump trying to rig 2026 midterm elections
Reply #15 - Aug 9th, 2025 at 4:04am
 
Frank wrote on Aug 8th, 2025 at 11:17pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 8th, 2025 at 2:22pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 8th, 2025 at 1:38pm:
lee wrote on Aug 8th, 2025 at 1:24pm:


Most Democratic states have independent bodies set up to set electoral boundaries.

Redistricting is set as a 10 year process. This reset is being done between scheduled redistricting.

The vast majority of Republican states are heavily gerrymandered. Very few Democrat states.

Texas is already heavily gerrymandered, This is gerrymandering the gerrymander and as Trump said it is purely about election cheating / election fraud - nothing else.


This is why we see electoral maps showing a sea of read compared to very little blue - Republican held states are heavily into gerrymandering. All this does is prove the case for a body that sets electoral maps independently of political parties or people, such as what we have in Australia with the Australian Electoral Commission.

The more big cities  in a state the more Dem it is.
D.C. voted 92% Biden - that's more than Saddam Hussein or or Kim il jong ever got.




Is that so? Then please say how Georgia, which has one of the biggest cities in the union, has Republicans like Marjorie Taylor Greene representing them.

D.C's a territory. It's not allowed to become a state for the very reason you're complaining about.

In the words of the poetess, please explain?
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Re: Trump trying to rig 2026 midterm elections
Reply #16 - Aug 9th, 2025 at 1:37pm
 


I guess it depends on your metric.

By population - The largest city in Georgia is Atlanta, Ranked 38th.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/us-cities

By Size - Statenville 1089Km2, ranked 15th but with a population of only 3,697.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_area
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Re: Trump trying to rig 2026 midterm elections
Reply #17 - Aug 9th, 2025 at 1:39pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Aug 8th, 2025 at 10:59pm:
You do see that even using your site there are still double the number of Republican states ?



Wow. 9 is now twice 6. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

6 is a few, 3 more us half a few more. Wink


And the stats you cited were NOT about gerrymanders but redistributions, otherwise those ones done independently wouldn't figure at all.


Dnarever wrote on Aug 8th, 2025 at 10:59pm:
You seem to have proven what I said ?



Nope. There are fewer it doesn't mean the Republicans are overrepresented in a small sample. Wink
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Re: Trump trying to rig 2026 midterm elections
Reply #18 - Aug 9th, 2025 at 1:40pm
 
Karnal wrote on Aug 8th, 2025 at 10:19pm:
Good at this, isn't he?



Couldn't answer the question. Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Re: Trump trying to rig 2026 midterm elections
Reply #19 - Aug 10th, 2025 at 8:31pm
 
lee wrote on Aug 9th, 2025 at 1:40pm:
Karnal wrote on Aug 8th, 2025 at 10:19pm:
Good at this, isn't he?



Couldn't answer the question. Grin Grin Grin Grin


My error. Now you tell us why Republicans, who's name indicates a preference for a constitutional republic, would be trying to rig a constitutional election.

Steve Bannon's explained the entire process. The post-Watergate reforms were so unfair, he says. The Ethics in Government Act, the Presidential Records Act, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, the Hughes-Ryan Amendment to the Foreign Assistance Act, and last but by no means least, the amendments to the Federal Election Campaign Act.

These laws aim to enhance the Constitution and ensure a clear separation of powers. A prez, it is held, is supposed to administer the laws of elected representatives in Congress. A prez is not a king, he/she is a humble servant who pledges to honour and uphold the Constitution. Sloppy Steve wants to turn the entire constitution on its head, having the prez rule over both elected houses and the people themselves.

It's all a bit of fun. Sloppy says he's really right wing - far more than DL, who stands in the middle. Yes, according to Sloppy, DL is a centrist, with the wisdom of Solomon.

That's King Solomon. I kid you not, Sloppy Steve said all this. The old boy thought it was so good, he posted the interview. Sloppy wants elections rigged, loyalists appointed, the entire federal public service replaced, and the Constitution overturned. 

Sloppy, you see, is a constitutional conservative. He wants to tear the whole thing down. He doesn't want the Constitution rewritten, no. That would require 75% of the house and Senate - way too ambitious, even for someone as cunning as Sloppy Steve. He just wants it re-interpreted for a new generation. For Sloppy, that means you can just make stuff up and do whatever you want.

Redraw electoral boundaries, stop certain people voting, chuck out votes you don't like. For Steve, all is fair in love and war. Steve says this is a war. Sloppy Steve is fighting against the majority of Americans who believe in free and fair elections. If you don't like the result, Steve says, just make something up. Like his war metaphor, Steve also uses the term coup. And yes, if that doesn't work, Sloppy Steve says it's time for a real war to sort this out once and for all.

If Americans don't like it, they can pick a side and fight for real.

So I'm curious. What do you think of Steve's plan? He used to be your DL's campaign manager and senior advisor. These things are currently being planned as we speak.

Can you answer the question?
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Re: Trump trying to rig 2026 midterm elections
Reply #20 - Aug 10th, 2025 at 9:21pm
 
lee wrote on Aug 9th, 2025 at 1:39pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 8th, 2025 at 10:59pm:
You do see that even using your site there are still double the number of Republican states ?



Wow. 9 is now twice 6. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

6 is a few, 3 more us half a few more. Wink


And the stats you cited were NOT about gerrymanders but redistributions, otherwise those ones done independently wouldn't figure at all.


Dnarever wrote on Aug 8th, 2025 at 10:59pm:
You seem to have proven what I said ?



Nope. There are fewer it doesn't mean the Republicans are overrepresented in a small sample. Wink


Quote:
9 is now twice 6


It is actually 5 to 9 almost double if you believe these numbers.
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Reply #21 - Aug 10th, 2025 at 9:23pm
 
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The Republican Gerrymanders

Texas and Florida, the two states that gained the most congressional seats this decade, anchor the GOP advantage in this decade’s maps. In 2024, these two big states alone give Republicans a total of 10 additional safe House seats compared to the median Freedom to Vote Act–compliant map.

In Texas, Democrats currently hold only 13 of 38 seats (34 percent) despite getting between 46 and 48 percent of the vote in recent statewide federal elections. The median Freedom to Vote Act–compliant map, by comparison, has 18 Democratic districts (roughly in line with Democrats’ recent statewide vote share).

Critically, gerrymandering in the Lone Star State also created an electoral firewall for Republicans: 21 of the 25 Texas seats they hold are districts that Donald Trump carried by 15 or more percentage points in 2020. This is a significant change from last decade’s maps, in which there were only 11 such super-Trump districts.

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/how-gerrymandering-tilts...
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n Florida, Republicans undertook an even bigger seat grab, transforming a 16–11 edge in the state’s congressional delegation into an astonishing 20–8 advantage. They accomplished this feat by making the district Florida picked up in reapportionment a Republican seat and targeting three Democratic incumbents, including a Black Democrat in northern Florida. By contrast, the median Freedom to Vote Act–compliant map has 13 Democratic seats. No Florida congressional races are currently rated as competitive.


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The next biggest building block in Republicans’ advantage is North Carolina. The median Freedom to Vote Act–compliant map has 6 Democratic seats, but the state’s newly gerrymandered map could see the election of just 3 Democrats in 2024. Only one North Carolina district — a newly gerrymandered district long represented by a Black Democrat — is rated as competitive this year.

Republicans also drew a skewed but marginally more competitive map in Ohio that produced a 10–5 split in 2022 but could produce a 12–3 split this year if Republicans pick up two currently Democratic-held toss-up districts (including one that they likely lost in 2022 only because the Republican candidate lied about his military record). By contrast, the median Freedom to Vote Act–compliant plan has 6 Democratic districts.
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Re: Trump trying to rig 2026 midterm elections
Reply #22 - Aug 11th, 2025 at 12:30am
 
Karnal wrote on Aug 10th, 2025 at 8:31pm:
lee wrote on Aug 9th, 2025 at 1:40pm:
Karnal wrote on Aug 8th, 2025 at 10:19pm:
Good at this, isn't he?



Couldn't answer the question. Grin Grin Grin Grin


My error. Now you tell us why Republicans, who's name indicates a preference for a constitutional republic, would be trying to rig a constitutional election.

Steve Bannon's explained the entire process. The post-Watergate reforms were so unfair, he says. The Ethics in Government Act, the Presidential Records Act, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, the Hughes-Ryan Amendment to the Foreign Assistance Act, and last but by no means least, the amendments to the Federal Election Campaign Act.

These laws aim to enhance the Constitution and ensure a clear separation of powers. A prez, it is held, is supposed to administer the laws of elected representatives in Congress. A prez is not a king, he/she is a humble servant who pledges to honour and uphold the Constitution. Sloppy Steve wants to turn the entire constitution on its head, having the prez rule over both elected houses and the people themselves.

It's all a bit of fun. Sloppy says he's really right wing - far more than DL, who stands in the middle. Yes, according to Sloppy, DL is a centrist, with the wisdom of Solomon.

That's King Solomon. I kid you not, Sloppy Steve said all this. The old boy thought it was so good, he posted the interview. Sloppy wants elections rigged, loyalists appointed, the entire federal public service replaced, and the Constitution overturned. 

Sloppy, you see, is a constitutional conservative. He wants to tear the whole thing down. He doesn't want the Constitution rewritten, no. That would require 75% of the house and Senate - way too ambitious, even for someone as cunning as Sloppy Steve. He just wants it re-interpreted for a new generation. For Sloppy, that means you can just make stuff up and do whatever you want.

Redraw electoral boundaries, stop certain people voting, chuck out votes you don't like. For Steve, all is fair in love and war. Steve says this is a war. Sloppy Steve is fighting against the majority of Americans who believe in free and fair elections. If you don't like the result, Steve says, just make something up. Like his war metaphor, Steve also uses the term coup. And yes, if that doesn't work, Sloppy Steve says it's time for a real war to sort this out once and for all.

If Americans don't like it, they can pick a side and fight for real.

So I'm curious. What do you think of Steve's plan? He used to be your DL's campaign manager and senior advisor. These things are currently being planned as we speak.

Can you answer the question?

Silly, grimacing bollocks again.

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Re: Trump trying to rig 2026 midterm elections
Reply #23 - Aug 11th, 2025 at 4:21am
 
Frank wrote on Aug 11th, 2025 at 12:30am:
Karnal wrote on Aug 10th, 2025 at 8:31pm:
lee wrote on Aug 9th, 2025 at 1:40pm:
Karnal wrote on Aug 8th, 2025 at 10:19pm:
Good at this, isn't he?



Couldn't answer the question. Grin Grin Grin Grin


My error. Now you tell us why Republicans, who's name indicates a preference for a constitutional republic, would be trying to rig a constitutional election.

Steve Bannon's explained the entire process. The post-Watergate reforms were so unfair, he says. The Ethics in Government Act, the Presidential Records Act, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, the Hughes-Ryan Amendment to the Foreign Assistance Act, and last but by no means least, the amendments to the Federal Election Campaign Act.

These laws aim to enhance the Constitution and ensure a clear separation of powers. A prez, it is held, is supposed to administer the laws of elected representatives in Congress. A prez is not a king, he/she is a humble servant who pledges to honour and uphold the Constitution. Sloppy Steve wants to turn the entire constitution on its head, having the prez rule over both elected houses and the people themselves.

It's all a bit of fun. Sloppy says he's really right wing - far more than DL, who stands in the middle. Yes, according to Sloppy, DL is a centrist, with the wisdom of Solomon.

That's King Solomon. I kid you not, Sloppy Steve said all this. The old boy thought it was so good, he posted the interview. Sloppy wants elections rigged, loyalists appointed, the entire federal public service replaced, and the Constitution overturned. 

Sloppy, you see, is a constitutional conservative. He wants to tear the whole thing down. He doesn't want the Constitution rewritten, no. That would require 75% of the house and Senate - way too ambitious, even for someone as cunning as Sloppy Steve. He just wants it re-interpreted for a new generation. For Sloppy, that means you can just make stuff up and do whatever you want.

Redraw electoral boundaries, stop certain people voting, chuck out votes you don't like. For Steve, all is fair in love and war. Steve says this is a war. Sloppy Steve is fighting against the majority of Americans who believe in free and fair elections. If you don't like the result, Steve says, just make something up. Like his war metaphor, Steve also uses the term coup. And yes, if that doesn't work, Sloppy Steve says it's time for a real war to sort this out once and for all.

If Americans don't like it, they can pick a side and fight for real.

So I'm curious. What do you think of Steve's plan? He used to be your DL's campaign manager and senior advisor. These things are currently being planned as we speak.

Can you answer the question?

Silly, grimacing bollocks again.



Strange. You posted the clip. Then you said, see how marvellous PBS is for posting such wise words?

So which part's bollocks, dear boy? Sloppy's wisdom of Solomon schtick, or the bit about the mean old Watergate reforms?

Funny thing is, your DL's been caught doing far worse than anything Nixon ever did. A harmless old burglary cover-up - sounds rather cute in hindsight, doesn't it?

Turns out Nixon wasn't so bad after all, ja?
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Re: Trump trying to rig 2026 midterm elections
Reply #24 - Aug 11th, 2025 at 6:12am
 
Karnal wrote on Aug 11th, 2025 at 4:21am:
Frank wrote on Aug 11th, 2025 at 12:30am:
Karnal wrote on Aug 10th, 2025 at 8:31pm:
lee wrote on Aug 9th, 2025 at 1:40pm:
Karnal wrote on Aug 8th, 2025 at 10:19pm:
Good at this, isn't he?



Couldn't answer the question. Grin Grin Grin Grin


My error. Now you tell us why Republicans, who's name indicates a preference for a constitutional republic, would be trying to rig a constitutional election.

Steve Bannon's explained the entire process. The post-Watergate reforms were so unfair, he says. The Ethics in Government Act, the Presidential Records Act, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, the Hughes-Ryan Amendment to the Foreign Assistance Act, and last but by no means least, the amendments to the Federal Election Campaign Act.

These laws aim to enhance the Constitution and ensure a clear separation of powers. A prez, it is held, is supposed to administer the laws of elected representatives in Congress. A prez is not a king, he/she is a humble servant who pledges to honour and uphold the Constitution. Sloppy Steve wants to turn the entire constitution on its head, having the prez rule over both elected houses and the people themselves.

It's all a bit of fun. Sloppy says he's really right wing - far more than DL, who stands in the middle. Yes, according to Sloppy, DL is a centrist, with the wisdom of Solomon.

That's King Solomon. I kid you not, Sloppy Steve said all this. The old boy thought it was so good, he posted the interview. Sloppy wants elections rigged, loyalists appointed, the entire federal public service replaced, and the Constitution overturned. 

Sloppy, you see, is a constitutional conservative. He wants to tear the whole thing down. He doesn't want the Constitution rewritten, no. That would require 75% of the house and Senate - way too ambitious, even for someone as cunning as Sloppy Steve. He just wants it re-interpreted for a new generation. For Sloppy, that means you can just make stuff up and do whatever you want.

Redraw electoral boundaries, stop certain people voting, chuck out votes you don't like. For Steve, all is fair in love and war. Steve says this is a war. Sloppy Steve is fighting against the majority of Americans who believe in free and fair elections. If you don't like the result, Steve says, just make something up. Like his war metaphor, Steve also uses the term coup. And yes, if that doesn't work, Sloppy Steve says it's time for a real war to sort this out once and for all.

If Americans don't like it, they can pick a side and fight for real.

So I'm curious. What do you think of Steve's plan? He used to be your DL's campaign manager and senior advisor. These things are currently being planned as we speak.

Can you answer the question?

Silly, grimacing bollocks again.



Strange. You posted the clip. Then you said, see how marvellous PBS is for posting such wise words?

So which part's bollocks, dear boy? Sloppy's wisdom of Solomon schtick, or the bit about the mean old Watergate reforms?

Funny thing is, your DL's been caught doing far worse than anything Nixon ever did. A harmless old burglary cover-up - sounds rather cute in hindsight, doesn't it?

Turns out Nixon wasn't so bad after all, ja?


Nixon? Trump is starting to make Kim Jong Un look amateurish.
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Reply #25 - Aug 11th, 2025 at 7:11am
 
Trump would be negligent in his duties if he didn't try to get electoral boundaries changed in his favour.

What on earth is wrong with the leftie intellectuals?

Can't you just say
" this looks like a smart move"
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Reply #26 - Aug 11th, 2025 at 9:34am
 
aquascoot wrote on Aug 11th, 2025 at 7:11am:
Trump would be negligent in his duties if he didn't try to get electoral boundaries changed in his favour.

What on earth is wrong with the leftie intellectuals?

Can't you just say
" this looks like a smart move"


There is no scheduled boundary change. it is pure election fraud. It is cheating, normal process for Republicans.
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Reply #27 - Aug 11th, 2025 at 9:48am
 
Dnarever wrote on Aug 11th, 2025 at 9:34am:
aquascoot wrote on Aug 11th, 2025 at 7:11am:
Trump would be negligent in his duties if he didn't try to get electoral boundaries changed in his favour.

What on earth is wrong with the leftie intellectuals?

Can't you just say
" this looks like a smart move"


There is no scheduled boundary change. it is pure election fraud. It is cheating, normal process for Republicans.


It's an admission from aquascoot that Trump isn't popular.

If his policies and job performance were popular among Americans, why would he need to resort to changing boundaries?

Trump is about as popular as a fart in an elevator, and that's why he's doing what he always does - cheat.

Wives, taxes, golf - you name it he cheats on it.
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Re: Trump trying to rig 2026 midterm elections
Reply #28 - Aug 11th, 2025 at 9:55am
 
aquascoot wrote on Aug 11th, 2025 at 7:11am:
Trump would be negligent in his duties if he didn't try to get electoral boundaries changed in his favour.

What on earth is wrong with the leftie intellectuals?

Can't you just say
" this looks like a smart move"


It's not the lefties intellectuals saying that, dear. Many of them are Maoists.

It's the constitutional conservatives, the patriots, the Real Americans.

Types like John Howard who said you accept the result of elections no matter what. When you heard him say that, you said you're done. No more DL for you, you said, I'm a Ron D man.

What happened - changed your mind, have you?

Totally understandable. If you can't have Desanctis, you'll settle for Fascism instead.

As you do, no?



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Re: Trump trying to rig 2026 midterm elections
Reply #29 - Aug 11th, 2025 at 11:12am
 
aquascoot wrote on Aug 11th, 2025 at 7:11am:
Trump would be negligent in his duties if he didn't try to get electoral boundaries changed in his favour.

What on earth is wrong with the leftie intellectuals?

Can't you just say
" this looks like a smart move"


It reads like a blunt admission he's failing at the job and can't win a fair vote, so he's scheming to rig the election, turning the same, or even fewer supporters, into more electoral seats.

Undemocratic? Absolutely.

But because it's Trump pulling the strings, suddenly nobody bats an eye.

That's why if the Blue States break with tradition and threaten to fight fire with fire in retaliation, I couldn't give a damn.

If this is the new political battlefield you want, you've got to live and die by it.
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