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The Link Between George Wallace and Trump
Jul 30th, 2025 at 12:54pm
 
Something that Tom Holland and Dominic Sandbrook discussed during one of their episodes on the US in 1968 was the alignment of Trump's strategies with those of George Wallace's.

Wallace, who'd initially begun his political campaigns promoting infrastructure renewal, education, and healthcare, found that he couldn't get traction with the American people with them.

Then he turned his attention to ethnic issues and exploiting the ethnic divide via taking a stand for segregation, and his popularity went stratospheric... not just with republican voters, but also with democratic ones.

As he said, years later, "You know, I tried to talk about good roads and good schools and all these things that have been part of my career, and nobody listened. And then I began talking about n****rs, and they stomped the floor."

After Wallace's political withdrawal in the presidential campaigns, Wallace's team predicted that his movement and strategies would not die with his exit... that a 'super Wallace' will rise to take his place.

It seems they were right.

N****rs became Mexicans and immigrants.
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Re: The Link Between George Wallace and Trump
Reply #1 - Jul 30th, 2025 at 4:21pm
 
And the similarities to Trump and the Wallace of the 60s don't stop there. While Wallace was a Democrat and a populist, he would have been happy to switch to the Republicans if the offer was good - that he be Goldwater's running mate.
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Reply #2 - Jul 30th, 2025 at 10:04pm
 
What Trump has proved is that Americans' historical predisposition towards ethnic separatism still plays out in US politics, as Wallace realised in his day.

As Americans from both sides 'stomped the floor' when Wallace platformed national segregation, so too has Trump evoked the same stomping in his political life.

The overreach of ICE indicates that Americans still have a fetish for putting their collective boot on the neck of the 'outsider'.
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Re: The Link Between George Wallace and Trump
Reply #3 - Jul 30th, 2025 at 10:20pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 30th, 2025 at 10:04pm:
What Trump has proved is that Americans' historical predisposition towards ethnic separatism still plays out in US politics, as Wallace realised in his day.

As Americans from both sides 'stomped the floor' when Wallace platformed national segregation, so too has Trump evoked the same stomping in his political life.

The overreach of ICE indicates that Americans still have a fetish for putting their collective boot on the neck of the 'outsider'.



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Re: The Link Between George Wallace and Trump
Reply #4 - Jul 30th, 2025 at 10:37pm
 
While Wallace intended to use his segregation platform only as a means to an end to advance his political career, he was ultimately defined by it and only escaped its vortex (not so his historical legacy) after he was shot.

With Trump, his Greenland and Canada annexation proposals were Wallace-style diversions that have faded from his political focus, but will probably permanently define his presidency anyway.

Trump will likely have more legacy success with his immigrant policies, as Americans have an insatiable historical appetite for them.
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Re: The Link Between George Wallace and Trump
Reply #5 - Jul 30th, 2025 at 10:55pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 30th, 2025 at 10:37pm:
While Wallace intended to use his segregation platform only as a means to an end to advance his political career, he was ultimately defined by it and only escaped its vortex (not so his historical legacy) after he was shot.

With Trump, his Greenland and Canada annexation proposals were Wallace-style diversions that have faded from his political focus, but will probably permanently define his presidency anyway.

Trump will likely have more legacy success with his immigrant policies, as Americans have an insatiable historical appetite for them.

Which is why they elected O'Bama.
Twice.



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Reply #6 - Jul 30th, 2025 at 11:10pm
 
Wallace's N****rs have become Trump's Mexicans and immigrants.
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Reply #7 - Jul 30th, 2025 at 11:29pm
 
It shouldn't be surprising that Trump's policies and strategies follow those of Wallace, Nixon, Reagan (MAGA), and even Carter; his political instincts were forged during the late 60s, 70s and early 80s largely by them.
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Re: The Link Between George Wallace and Trump
Reply #8 - Jul 31st, 2025 at 8:36am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 30th, 2025 at 11:29pm:
It shouldn't be surprising that Trump's policies and strategies follow those of Wallace, Nixon, Reagan (MAGA), and even Carter; his political instincts were forged during the late 60s, 70s and early 80s largely by them.

With that in mind, it's an easy guess to predict Trump's inclination on almost any and every issue.

He'll be a 'morning in America' Reaganite (although more white-trash than Reagan was).

A Carteresque peacenik (without the perception of Carteresque weakness over US defence).

Deviously, even criminally, Nixonian in his personal dealings and the treatment of his perceived political 'enemies'.

And full, uber-Wallace when it comes to wedge politics on ethnic issues, and any other issue that will divide Americans.

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Reply #9 - Jul 31st, 2025 at 9:26am
 
What uniquely defines Trump apart from Wallace, Nixon, Carter, and Reagan is his instinctive cowardice.

Trump is easily the most publicly cowardly president of the 20th and 21st centuries.

There is no threat that Trump makes that he will not walk back when those he threatens don't blink.

Even his recent threat to Putin is expressed as 'more sanctions'. Given Russia is already sanctioned up the yin-yang... more sanctions? Gee... wow... what a 'tough guy'... NOT!

Russia is currently evading sanctions by trading with the likes of China, India and Iran using gas, oil and covert gold as payment...

So, more sanctions pose no threat to Russia... not within 10 days, 12 days, or 15 minutes.

Why not more offensive and defensive weapons to Ukraine? That would be a threat that would keep Putin up at night... but that's what a real man would do, so...


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Re: The Link Between George Wallace and Trump
Reply #10 - Jul 31st, 2025 at 9:45am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 31st, 2025 at 9:26am:
What uniquely defines Trump apart from Wallace, Nixon, Carter, and Reagan is his instinctive cowardice.

Trump is easily the most publicly cowardly president of the 20th and 21st centuries.

There is no threat that Trump makes that he will not walk back when those he threatens don't blink.

Even his recent threat to Putin is expressed as 'more sanctions'. Given Russia is already sanctioned up the yin-yang... more sanctions? Gee... wow... what a 'tough guy'... NOT!

Russia is currently evading sanctions by trading with the likes of China, India and Iran using gas, oil and covert gold as payment...

So, more sanctions pose no threat to Russia... not within 10 days, 12 days, or 15 minutes.

Why not more offensive and defensive weapons to Ukraine? That would be a threat that would keep Putin up at night... but that's what a real man would do, so...




This post is brought to you by the words secondary and sanctions and the numbers 10 and 12.

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Re: The Link Between George Wallace and Trump
Reply #11 - Aug 1st, 2025 at 8:56am
 
Regarding Putin, Trump is in the process of pivoting from his half-arsed version of 'Nixon the diplomat' vis-à-vis Nixon and Mao's China, to a limp-wristed version of 'Reagan the Cold War warrior', i.e. Reagan and the late Soviet Union.

Reagan's strategy was straightforward in its messaging to a line of late Soviet leaders: 'You may go no further at any price you can afford.'
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Reply #12 - Aug 1st, 2025 at 7:24pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 1st, 2025 at 8:56am:
Regarding Putin, Trump is in the process of pivoting from his half-arsed version of 'Nixon the diplomat' vis-à-vis Nixon and Mao's China, to a limp-wristed version of 'Reagan the Cold War warrior', i.e. Reagan and the late Soviet Union.

Reagan's strategy was straightforward in its messaging to a line of late Soviet leaders: 'You may go no further at any price you can afford.'

Trump's tariffs/sanctions on Russia will amount to either:

(a) a deferrment from '10 to 12 days' to 30+ days during which Putin will up his offensive in Ukraine
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(b) impose a calculatedly ineffective tariff/sanction after which Putin will up his offensive in Ukraine.

Faced with a similar situation, Reagan, the true Cold War warrior, threatened Gorbachev with the Strategic Defence Initiative - 'Star Wars'.

No cat-and-mouse, limp-wristed diddling for Reagan.
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Reply #13 - Aug 1st, 2025 at 7:54pm
 
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Reply #14 - Aug 1st, 2025 at 8:20pm
 
It's almost a Seinfeld series watching Trump as the 'George' character trying to be Wallace, then Nixon, then Carter, then Reagan, each episode... and failing with the same dramatic comedy that Jason Alexander breathed into 'George'.

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