None of which obscures the flaws that run deep in this society/culture - starting at the very top with the delusion of some form of control over the people rather than serving the nation, and running all the way down to people long over-ridden continuing to demand a return to their primitive ideas and being given rule over the country.

And none of this justifies or validates the strange idea that Australia should be wide open to mass immigration that is altering our society/culture beyond all recognition while the country is in a position where it cannot 'feed' its own adequately in terms of homing, standards of living, costs of living, and legal and social and economic rights ... and while its economic position is quite literally falling through the floor .... this is fascism at its very lowest from government, and nowhere more clearly proven than by that 'government' over-ruling and ignoring the will of the people in a vote.

Fascism from the befuddled Extreme Left is no less dangerous than Fascism from the befuddled Extreme Right... any attempt to dominate and control the People from a small, specially selected, centralised government is the same no matter which 'side' it comes from ... and again - women, due to their different approach to life themes, something which to date has NOT shown any real and substantive change in our governance but only more of the same as the Beta Men (The Hollow Men) in government - and due to their near lack of experience in reality, attached to the Princess Diarrhoea of assuming they are somehow special all the time ... which, of course, is proven by their 'success' under a regime of absolute preference and privilege for them (LMAO) starting in pre-school ...................... are NOT suitable to run a country like ours.

The Pussy Pass has gone on for far too long and it's time for renewal of sense and reason and fairness.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 16^th, 2025 at 8:12pm:



Hurley's vision seems the correct one.
People love the path of least resistance
They value comfort and safety over freedom.
And thinking for yourself burns mental capital.
So it's anti evolution.
People historically understood that when they were lost or needed to hunt or to cook or to make a fire, the guy who was most confident in how to navigate or hunt or cook or make a fire was the guy to defer to.

This is of course the winner effect.
When you are competant, your voice becomes clear. Your pupils dilate you have charisma, people fall into your frame.

A 6 yo showing adults how to solve a Rubik's cube will speak clearly and charismaticslly and hold attention and display the winner effect and because we are lazy we just follow and believe.

Trump is the example par excellence of this evolutionary bias.

Act confident. Believe in yourself, strong voice and people who don't want to burn resources thinking fall into your frame.

It's a smart move.


The daily lectures in covid by people like Dan saying
We've got this. You're safe, trust me this all ends when we get the jab.

Mentally lazy people just say. " well He seems to be the guy to follow".


Leaders in government and business all do it
And the sheep will all follow.


And what's really interesting is if you call out any of the sheep for not taking personal responsibility for their thinking  they get super mad.


People just love that laziness and safety.
It will be their undoing but they can't be reached

mothra wrote on Jul 17^th, 2025 at 6:09am:

Taking out your reiteration of the OP's point...

Intolerance is the flipside of the same conversation.

Yes, the term is hackneyed, trite and often misused as a stand-in for other states like timidity/ passivity, or more complex mind states like having resilience or depth.

And, yes, it lends itself too easily to its opposite - intolerance, which, in its turn, is cynically abused, as in 'intolerance of intolerance' to sanctify the thrill felt when imagining, metaphorically, smashing someone in the face with a spade as a reprisal for their 'moral turpitude'.

A term like forbearance does not lend itself to its opposite, and, when associated with patience, in the way the term is respected in eastern cultures, you pop out the other end with 'patient forbearance' - something, I suspect, good mothers have in spades.

freediver wrote on Jul 17^th, 2025 at 8:52am:

Is it?

Tolerance can imply a loading, as some of the posters here have articulated... The film 'Falling Down' explores what happens when the cumulative load of tolerance reaches a critical mass.

'How much can a koala bear?'

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 17^th, 2025 at 8:57am:


People can bear quite a lot. It takes a fragile man to Fall Down like that, which is why they so rarely do. The world was not always as peaceful and just as your world is right now.

freediver wrote on Jul 17^th, 2025 at 9:02am:

Sure, very few are as overloaded as 'Falling Down's' William 'D-Fens' Foster.

The term's hackneyed overuse means it does not do justice to the concept of accepting ethnic/social/cultural/religious difference.

Tolerance is a stand-in for so many mind states, implies a load on the psyche, and can flip on a dime into intolerance, even if cynically, as in 'intolerance of intolerance'.

Jasin wrote on Jul 16^th, 2025 at 10:37pm:


Geyer wasn't sure if he could take him - nothing to do with luck.