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Reply #30 - Jul 15^th, 2025 at 5:32pm

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jul 15^th, 2025 at 5:08pm:

Asking simple questions is never a mistake, it’s fun and each time one corrects the AI it regulates and comes up with a better answer, that’s part of the fun.

Sure, if you're using AI as a toy and enjoy spending days training the AI.

IT professionals and others are using it as a substitute for professional and operational teams.

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Reply #31 - Jul 17^th, 2025 at 11:12am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 15^th, 2025 at 5:32pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jul 15^th, 2025 at 5:08pm:

Asking simple questions is never a mistake, it’s fun and each time one corrects the AI it regulates and comes up with a better answer, that’s part of the fun.

Sure, if you're using AI as a toy and enjoy spending days training the AI.

IT professionals and others are using it as a substitute for professional and operational teams.

And University students are using it in place of research, so AI will provide the means of those with more money than ability gaining degrees under false pretences.
I already know of one MBA, who has the ability to get the degree fair and square [so his top job is not in jeopardy] he just couldn’t be bothered doing the hard yards himself.

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Reply #32 - Oct 8^th, 2025 at 3:00am

Accounting and consulting giant Deloitte has announced it will offer a partial refund to the Australian government for a report that contained AI-hallucinated quotes and references to nonexistent research. This is just the latest example of a professional firm suffering massive embarrassment for the sloppy use of AI tools.

Ars Technica reports that Deloitte Australia has admitted to using a generative AI tool, specifically Azure OpenAI GPT-4o, in the creation of a report for the Australian government. The report, titled “Targeted Compliance Framework Assurance Review,” was published by the Department of Employment and Workplace Relations (DEWR) in August and cost Australian taxpayers nearly $440,000 AUD (approximately $290,000 USD).

Shortly after the report’s publication, Chris Rudge, Deputy Director of Health Law at Sydney University, noticed several citations to papers and publications that did not exist. This included multiple references to nonexistent reports by Lisa Burton Crawford, a professor at the University of Sydney law school. Crawford expressed concern about the misattribution of research to her name and sought an explanation from Deloitte regarding the generation of these citations.

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26588 Australia	Re: will AI take our jobs? Reply #33 - Oct 8^th, 2025 at 3:17am first the blacks took our jobs then the women took our jobs then the immigrants took our jobs but really the govt policies outsourcing everything took our jobs. Spot
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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 58314 Gender:	Re: will AI take our jobs? Reply #34 - Oct 8^th, 2025 at 3:58am Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Oct 8^th, 2025 at 3:17am: first the blacks took our jobs then the women took our jobs then the immigrants took our jobs but really the govt policies outsourcing everything took our jobs. Spot Whaaaaahh! You ARE a moron Good tag and....er.... that's it.
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Reply #35 - May 5^th, 2026 at 8:12am

Coder Displaced By A.I. Told He Should Just 'Learn To Mine Coal'

PORTLAND, OR — After losing his coding job to artificial intelligence, local man Roger Garrison was told by political pundits that he should instead learn to mine coal.

With coal back in heavy demand to power the data centers that house artificial intelligence, Garrison was told to face the reality of the changing economy and grab a pickaxe.

"Get with the times, bud," said career counselor Mackenzie Pelham. "Coding is a stone-age relic from a bygone era. Coal mining is the future now. It may be hard to start over with a new skill set, but you can't cling to the past. Put on your hard hat and get to work."

To help people like Garrison, government officials rolled out a new initiative to assist displaced coders as they transition into the modern age of manual labor in the mines. The program, called Code2Coal, reportedly includes a two-hour online seminar titled "So You've Been Replaced By A Machine: Now What?"

"It's going to be a big change, but I really do consider myself lucky," said Garrison. "Fortunately for me, I used to be a coal miner before Biden shut down the mines. He told me to 'learn to code', so I spent the past three years mastering Python and Java. It seems like a bit of a waste now, but at least I already know my way around the mines."

At publishing time, Democrats had vowed to pass legislation to shut down coal-powered data centers.

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Reply #36 - May 5^th, 2026 at 9:13am

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The Data Behind Disruption: Key Statistics on AI Replacing Jobs Globally

AI is projected to displace approximately 300 million jobs worldwide by 2030, representing about 9.1% of the global workforce.

AI is expected to create around 97 million new jobs by 2025, leading to a net gain of approximately 12 million jobs globally.

Approximately 41% of employers worldwide plan to reduce their workforce due to AI adoption over the next five years.

Entry-level positions are particularly susceptible to automation, with nearly 50 million U.S. jobs at risk in the coming years.

30% of U.S. workers fear their jobs will be replaced by AI or similar technologies by 2025.

AI has already led to the elimination of approximately 77,999 jobs in 2025 alone.

77% of businesses are either already using or considering the adoption of AI technologies.

By 2040, AI is expected to automate or transform 50% to 60% of jobs, with full automation potentially reaching 80% by 2050.

AI skills are in high demand, with a 30% annual growth rate for AI-related job postings, though automation may impact the longevity of some roles.

AI is projected to contribute up to $19.9 trillion to the global economy by 2030, driven by increased productivity and the automation of cognitive tasks.

https://www.strategicmarketresearch.com/blogs/ai-replacing-jobs-statistics

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Reply #38 - May 5^th, 2026 at 12:37pm

Becoming core infrastructure
Palantir Technologies positions its platforms (like Gotham and Foundry) as essential operating systems for governments and large organizations. As more agencies rely on them for daily decisions, switching away becomes difficult—giving Palantir long-term leverage.
2. Data integration advantage
The more systems and datasets its software connects, the more valuable it becomes. Over time, this creates a network effect: institutions depend on a unified “single source of truth,” which increases Palantir’s strategic importance.
3. Deep government relationships
Long-term contracts with defense, intelligence, and public-sector agencies mean influence grows alongside trust. These partnerships can expand into new domains (healthcare, infrastructure, finance), widening its footprint.
4. Embedding in decision-making
Palantir tools don’t just store data—they help guide decisions. As organizations rely on these outputs, the company indirectly shapes how decisions are made, even if it doesn’t make them itself.
5. High switching costs
Once an institution builds workflows, training, and policies around Palantir systems, replacing them is expensive and risky. That lock-in effect strengthens the company’s position over time.
6. Expansion into commercial sectors
Beyond government, Palantir is growing in industries like manufacturing, energy, and logistics. This broadens its influence across both public and private systems.

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Reply #39 - May 8^th, 2026 at 5:38am

Here are excerpts from 'Careless People' – a book written by Sarah Wynn-Williams, who worked for Zuckerberg directly:-

p.264 'Mark stands by what he said. He believes it! It's remarkable that a person who founded one of the most powerful companies in the word, a business premised on the idea that it can influence the brand of toothpaste you buy, has such difficulty accepting that the platform where the president-elect spent such vast amounts of money had any influence on the election'.

'A Trump operative named Brad Parscale ran the operation together with the embedded Facebook staff, and he basically invented a new way for a political campaign to shitpost its way to the White House, targeting voters with misinformation, inflammatory posts, and fundraising messages.'

'…. Facebook and Parscale's combined team microtargeted users and tweaked ads for maximum engagement, using data tools we (Facebook) designed for commercial advertisers …. Trump's campaign amassed a database named Project Alamo, of over 220 million people in America. It charted all sorts of online and offline behaviour, including gun registration, voter registration, credit card and shopping histories, what websites they visit, what car they drive, where they live, and the last time they voted …...'

'the campaign used Facebooks' 'Custom Audiences from Custom Lists' algorithm to match people in that database with their Facebook profiles. Then Facebook's 'Lookalike Audiences, algorithm found people on Facebook with 'common qualities that 'look like' those of known Trump supporters.”

p265 ' at any given moment the campaign had tens of thousands of ads in play, millions of different ad variations by the time they were done. These ads were tested using Facebook's Brand Lift surveys, which measure whether people have absorbed the messages in the ads, and tweaked accordingly.

All bad enough, you say, and this use of algorithms runs through the kind of 'truck' you drive, the way you text messages, childcare preference and so on and so on … and guess what – this was self-funding , since the 'data targeting' enabled the campaign to 'raise millions each month in campaign contributions through Facebook'.

I'll let that sit with you for a while (I wrote it) - while I segue it all into the looming AI catastrophe, alongside the equation between the rise of the 'Sovereign Citizen' movement - and countless other unformed currents (not strictly movements being unformed) flowing beneath the surface of our Western cultures and societies these days - cultures of resentment and anger often undefined and the part played in all these by the rise and rise of soul-less algorothims used to manipulate the 'masses'. It looks like a long story, so I'm giving you a bite at a time... just in case you've been wondering where I've been.

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Reply #40 - May 8^th, 2026 at 8:24am

Next:-
'Brand Lift' surveys is what you see with people being paid to post crap to get responses that are monitored. Now I don't know about you - but to me that is pretty scary, and shows not only the level to which the internet and coming AI dominance over it can be used to dominate and control a society - but why so much disinformation is being fed to you all daily in posts that contain hate speech and such - and all untouched by any restrictions, even on complaint direct.

These people are paid to trigger responses so those responses can be evaluated by Facebook's marketing algorithms, and nothing is allowed to stand in the way of that process

The internet is already out of control - AI will make it much worse by having 'benevolent' Terminators in front of your eyes feeding you whatever line their creators and controllers want to feed you... the Obersturmfuhrers playing the music as you are lead to the chambers...

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Reply #41 - May 19^th, 2026 at 2:16am

Maybe - but then the governments will have to tax them to fund the lazing on the beach.... and without people with money to buy - the products they create will just lie in the repositories...

Anyway - good to see a small start on what I've been saying for years now - re-tooling of the West using up-to date and cleaner technologies... still a long way to go with this one, but it's a start - though wind is unreliable... unless it's the cold winds blowing from Canberra due to all the hot air there rising... I know - it doesn't work that way but Canberra IS a special needs case... as the hot air rises more densely the cold winds blowing on the people get ... colder...

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/steel-mill-becomes-nation-s-first-to-sw...

"A steel mill on the industrial edge of Melbourne has become the first in Australia to draw more than half its power from renewable energy sources, marking a step forward in the push to clean up one of the world’s most carbon-intensive industries.

Since activating a new energy supply deal on April 1, InfraBuild’s Laverton steel mill in Melbourne’s west has been contracting enough electricity from a wind farm to cover more than 50 per cent of the power it needs to melt scrap metal into molten steel.

The rest of the power for the mill’s furnace continues to be drawn from the grid, which relies on a fluctuating mix of fossil fuels, renewable energy and storage.

The move reflected growing efforts by companies and governments to decarbonise steelmaking, which accounted for up to 8 per cent of the global output of greenhouse gas emissions, said InfraBuild chief executive Francisco Irazusta.

“This means a significant reduction of carbon dioxide emissions per tonne of steel that we produce,” he said.

“Our objective is to go to 100 per cent renewable. We have a target to reach that by 2030.”

Experts deem steelmaking as an industry where pollution is hard to abate. It is a corner of the economy where phasing out climate-warming emissions is particularly difficult. The main way of making steel today – by heating coal to create coke, then burning it inside massive blast furnaces to melt iron ore – emits vast quantities of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere."

... more .. do your own reading - I work hard to supply links... just saying here - nuke would be cleaner..... and more reliable.... imagine that chain home of nuke power stations along the Murray - with a kill switch to detach Victoria if it gets too far out of control... maybe offers a separate Parliament for Wops or something on top of the Cheese Cheers one ... just saying....

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