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They called this Jew antisemitic
Jul 10th, 2025 at 5:55pm
 
But Ben Cohen, co-founder of Ben & Jerry's Ice Cream, would not remain silent:

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Reply #1 - Jul 10th, 2025 at 6:13pm
 
Who called him an anti semite?
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Reply #2 - Jul 11th, 2025 at 7:25am
 
freediver wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 6:13pm:
Who called him an anti semite?


Do you know what the term passive voice means?
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Reply #3 - Jul 11th, 2025 at 7:52am
 
wombatwoody wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 7:25am:
freediver wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 6:13pm:
Who called him an anti semite?


Do you know what the term passive voice means?


Is that where Jew haters create a strawman so they can feel like they won an argument with someone?
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Re: They called this Jew antisemitic
Reply #4 - Jul 11th, 2025 at 8:15am
 
freediver wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 7:52am:
wombatwoody wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 7:25am:
freediver wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 6:13pm:
Who called him an anti semite?


Do you know what the term passive voice means?


Is that where Jew haters create a strawman so they can feel like they won an argument with someone?


Like who?

While you're thinking about how to answer that,

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Reply #5 - Jul 11th, 2025 at 8:31am
 
wombatwoody wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 7:25am:
Do you know what the term passive voice means?



FD thinks that anyone who criticises the IDF and their murder of innocent women and children as 'antisemetic'
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Reply #6 - Jul 11th, 2025 at 10:39am
 
John Smith wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 8:31am:
wombatwoody wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 7:25am:
Do you know what the term passive voice means?



FD thinks that anyone who criticises the IDF and their murder of innocent women and children as 'antisemetic'


Just the ones who compulsively spread lies and cannot explain anything they post John. That's kind of a giveaway.
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Reply #7 - Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:01pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 10:39am:
John Smith wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 8:31am:
wombatwoody wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 7:25am:
Do you know what the term passive voice means?



FD thinks that anyone who criticises the IDF and their murder of innocent women and children as 'antisemetic'


Just the ones who compulsively spread lies and cannot explain anything they post John. That's kind of a giveaway.


Like the jewish guy in the OP fd?
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Reply #8 - Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:19pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:01pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 10:39am:
John Smith wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 8:31am:
wombatwoody wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 7:25am:
Do you know what the term passive voice means?



FD thinks that anyone who criticises the IDF and their murder of innocent women and children as 'antisemetic'


Just the ones who compulsively spread lies and cannot explain anything they post John. That's kind of a giveaway.


Like the jewish guy in the OP fd?


Like you and woody.
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Reply #9 - Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:27pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:19pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:01pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 10:39am:
John Smith wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 8:31am:
wombatwoody wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 7:25am:
Do you know what the term passive voice means?



FD thinks that anyone who criticises the IDF and their murder of innocent women and children as 'antisemetic'


Just the ones who compulsively spread lies and cannot explain anything they post John. That's kind of a giveaway.


Like the jewish guy in the OP fd?


Like you and woody.

. are you scared to take a position  on the guy in the OP Fd? Worried your stupidity might be highlighted?

if so, don't worry about it. ... it's far to late for that.
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Reply #10 - Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:49pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:27pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:19pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:01pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 10:39am:
John Smith wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 8:31am:
wombatwoody wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 7:25am:
Do you know what the term passive voice means?



FD thinks that anyone who criticises the IDF and their murder of innocent women and children as 'antisemetic'


Just the ones who compulsively spread lies and cannot explain anything they post John. That's kind of a giveaway.


Like the jewish guy in the OP fd?


Like you and woody.

. are you scared to take a position  on the guy in the OP Fd? Worried your stupidity might be highlighted?

if so, don't worry about it. ... it's far to late for that.


Woody posts about a dozen random youtube videos a day. I don't watch them all, let alone try to figure out what is going on behind the scenes. Even woody happily admits they are mostly BS, but he cannot explain why he posts them anyway. I would be surprised if anyone here is watching them. Even woody. But he does post them obsessively, which is curious. There is something he really wants to say, but he is too scared to say it, and he is hoping someone else on the internet will say it for him.
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Reply #11 - Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:51pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 8:31am:
wombatwoody wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 7:25am:
Do you know what the term passive voice means?



FD thinks that anyone who criticises the IDF and their murder of innocent women and children as 'antisemetic'


Because they don't & what's said is driven by jew hating Palestinian/Hamas propaganda.
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Reply #12 - Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:57pm
 
Gnads wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:51pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 8:31am:
wombatwoody wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 7:25am:
Do you know what the term passive voice means?



FD thinks that anyone who criticises the IDF and their murder of innocent women and children as 'antisemetic'


Because they don't & what's said is driven by jew hating Palestinian/Hamas propaganda.



yeah ... the 55 000 dead, mostly women and children, all killed themselves

FMD you are a moron Cheesy

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freediver wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:49pm:
Woody posts about a dozen random youtube videos a day. I don't watch them all, let alone try to figure out what is going on behind the scenes. Even woody happily admits they are mostly BS, but he cannot explain why he posts them anyway. I would be surprised if anyone here is watching them. Even woody. But he does post them obsessively, which is curious. There is something he really wants to say, but he is too scared to say it, and he is hoping someone else on the internet will say it for him.


just admit you are scared and move  on ... so much quicker then typing all that trash
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Reply #14 - Jul 11th, 2025 at 1:00pm
 
Gnads wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:51pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 8:31am:
wombatwoody wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 7:25am:
Do you know what the term passive voice means?



FD thinks that anyone who criticises the IDF and their murder of innocent women and children as 'antisemetic'


Because they don't & what's said is driven by jew hating Palestinian/Hamas propaganda.



The elephant in the room is this question
which no one in the media has asked -

Why didn't Israel attempt to get all the women and children out of Gaza
and put them into tents in say - the Negev desert before they
bombed the hell out of Gaza?

I mean - the Hamas terrorists slept safe every night, deep underground in tunnels
while the women and children were mercilessly bombed on the surface
with giant earthquake bombs - 10s of 1000s of them.
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Why didn't Israel attempt to get all the women and children out of Gaza


Because they would be accused of genocide. And the women and children would refuse to leave. Hamas would probably shoot them if they did.

Bottom line is, Israel is not responsible for Hamas' choice to wage a war in an urban area, nor are they responsible for the consequences of that choice. Hamas is. If the women and children set up camp in the desert, Hamas would join them and fire rockets at Israel from the camp.
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Reply #16 - Jul 11th, 2025 at 1:05pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 1:03pm:
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Why didn't Israel attempt to get all the women and children out of Gaza


Because they would be accused of genocide.
And the women and children would refuse to leave.
Hamas would probably shoot them if they did.



That's all hypothetical.
We don't know if the women and children would have been blocked -
there was no chance to find out.
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freediver wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 1:03pm:
Because they would be accused of genocide



no, that's what happens when you KILL the women and children Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #19 - Jul 11th, 2025 at 1:20pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:57pm:
Gnads wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:51pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 8:31am:
wombatwoody wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 7:25am:
Do you know what the term passive voice means?



FD thinks that anyone who criticises the IDF and their murder of innocent women and children as 'antisemetic'


Because they don't & what's said is driven by jew hating Palestinian/Hamas propaganda.



yeah ... the 55 000 dead, mostly women and children, all killed themselves

FMD you are a moron Cheesy



You're the moron.

Hamas use their own women & children as human shields & as martyrs.

You can prove that 55,000 Gazan women & children were killed directly by Israelis?

You just believe the propaganda.
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Reply #20 - Jul 11th, 2025 at 1:49pm
 
Gnads wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 1:20pm:
Hamas use their own women & children as human shields & as martyrs.


keep gulping that cool aid
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Reply #21 - Jul 11th, 2025 at 3:52pm
 
Gnads wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 1:20pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:57pm:
Gnads wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:51pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 8:31am:
wombatwoody wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 7:25am:
Do you know what the term passive voice means?



FD thinks that anyone who criticises the IDF and their murder of innocent women and children as 'antisemetic'


Because they don't & what's said is driven by jew hating Palestinian/Hamas propaganda.



yeah ... the 55 000 dead, mostly women and children, all killed themselves

FMD you are a moron Cheesy



You're the moron.

Hamas use their own women & children as human shields & as martyrs.

You can prove that 55,000 Gazan women & children were killed directly by Israelis?

You just believe the propaganda.



Hamas used their own women and children as human shields -
Israel bombed them anyway.
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Reply #22 - Jul 11th, 2025 at 3:53pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 3:52pm:
Gnads wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 1:20pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:57pm:
Gnads wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:51pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 8:31am:
wombatwoody wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 7:25am:
Do you know what the term passive voice means?



FD thinks that anyone who criticises the IDF and their murder of innocent women and children as 'antisemetic'


Because they don't & what's said is driven by jew hating Palestinian/Hamas propaganda.



yeah ... the 55 000 dead, mostly women and children, all killed themselves

FMD you are a moron Cheesy



You're the moron.

Hamas use their own women & children as human shields & as martyrs.

You can prove that 55,000 Gazan women & children were killed directly by Israelis?

You just believe the propaganda.



Hamas used their own women and children as human shields -
Israel bombed them anyway.


Bobby, what do you think would happen if Israel refrained from defending itself every time Hamas used human shields?
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Reply #23 - Jul 11th, 2025 at 3:58pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 3:53pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 3:52pm:
Hamas used their own women and children as human shields -
Israel bombed them anyway.


Bobby, what do you think would happen if Israel refrained from defending itself
every time Hamas used human shields?



Well the fact is that Israel never even tried to move the women and children out -
we'll never know now if it was possible.

Israel had a chance to prove they were better than the terrorists -
and then they fell into a propaganda trap by killing so many innocent people -
all live on TV with the whole world watching.



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we'll never know now if it was possible.


Anything is possible Bobby, but more women and children would die in the effort to move them out than would have died in the war. What you are describing is literally a war crime. It would solve nothing. Even if they could move them out, Hamas would just move with them. Hamas is not basing itself in the city because it is some kind of sacred site to them. They are basing themselves there because that is where the women and children are to hide behind.

What do you think would happen if Israel refrained from defending itself every time Hamas used human shields?

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Reply #25 - Jul 11th, 2025 at 4:20pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 4:11pm:
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we'll never know now if it was possible.


Anything is possible Bobby, but more women and children would die in the effort to move them out than would have died in the war. What you are describing is literally a war crime. It would solve nothing. Even if they could move them out, Hamas would just move with them. Hamas is not basing itself in the city because it is some kind of sacred site to them. They are basing themselves there because that is where the women and children are to hide behind.

What do you think would happen if Israel refrained from defending itself every time Hamas used human shields?




"but more women and children would die in the effort to
move them out than would have died in the war. "


We don't know that - they may have gone voluntarily - they would have been glad to go.



"What do you think would happen if Israel refrained from defending itself
every time Hamas used human shields? "


I as not calling for refraining just a delay -
to give time to get the women and children out.

Question:
is it fair to lock women and children up in a small area from where they can't escape
and drop earthquake bombs on top of them?
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Reply #26 - Jul 11th, 2025 at 4:23pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 8:31am:
wombatwoody wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 7:25am:
Do you know what the term passive voice means?



FD thinks that anyone who criticises the IDF and their murder of innocent women and children as 'antisemetic'

Did Bush jr America genocide Afghanistan in retaliation for 9/11?
The was a lot of collateral damage like women and children.
I bet you were wooting for America, because an attack in America is an attack in Australia no!?
...but Jews Roll Eyes

It's obvious you Lefties can't cope with the difficulty of urban fighting, compared to open terrain. Even the ex-Soviet Ukrainians haven't made the efforts against Russian civilians, like Israel has with Palestinian civilians that cry "Death to Jews" and, like nearly 50 boys have done, opened fire on IDF troops trying to move them to safety.
Your double standards and bigotry is obvious, let alone your ignorant stupidities of denial and plain trolling.
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Reply #27 - Jul 11th, 2025 at 5:17pm
 
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I as not calling for refraining just a delay -
to give time to get the women and children out.


If someone is shooting a gun at you, what is the difference between not responding at all, and waiting until the city empties of women and children?

Quote:
We don't know that - they may have gone voluntarily


There are plenty of places in the west bank or gaza strip they can move to right now. They don't need anyone to tell them to move.
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freediver wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 5:17pm:
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I as not calling for refraining just a delay -
to give time to get the women and children out.


If someone is shooting a gun at you, what is the difference between not responding at all, and waiting until the city empties of women and children?

Quote:
We don't know that - they may have gone voluntarily


There is nothing stopping them leaving voluntarily right now. What role do you expect Israel  to play in that decision?



"If someone is shooting a gun at you, what is the difference between not responding at all,
and waiting until the city empties of women and children?"


I was only mentioning a delay before reducing Gaza to rubble.


"There is nothing stopping them leaving voluntarily right now. "

That's false - the women and children can't get out - no one can.
It's like shooting fish in a barrel.


" What role do you expect Israel  to play in that decision?"

Setting up tents in the Negev desert and asking the women and kids to leave -
taking them there in buses.
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Reply #29 - Jul 11th, 2025 at 5:25pm
 
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I was only mentioning a delay before reducing Gaza to rubble.


There was a delay.

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That's false - the women and children can't get out - no one can.
It's like shooting fish an a barrel.


They don't have to get out of the west bank and gaza strip. They just have to get away from the fighting. What you are suggesting Israel should do, the Palestinians could do just as easily themselves.

Can you quote a single Palestinian woman suggesting they would voluntarily move into a camp in the middle of the desert in Israeli territory that men were not allowed into?
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Reply #30 - Jul 11th, 2025 at 5:30pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 5:25pm:
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I was only mentioning a delay before reducing Gaza to rubble.


There was a delay.

Quote:
That's false - the women and children can't get out - no one can.
It's like shooting fish an a barrel.


They don't have to get out of the west bank and gaza strip. They just have to get away from the fighting. What you are suggesting Israel should do, the Palestinians could do just as easily themselves.

Can you quote a single Palestinian woman suggesting they would voluntarily move into a camp in the middle of the desert in Israeli territory that men were not allowed into?



Can you quote a single Palestinian woman suggesting they would voluntarily move into a camp ...

No but it seems pretty obvious if you think about MK-84 bombs dropping on top of you.




https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-808212

Between the war's start last October and recent days,
the United States has transferred at least 14,000 of the MK-84 2,000-pound bombs,
6,500 500-pound bombs, 3,000 Hellfire precision-guided air-to-ground missiles,
1,000 bunker-buster bombs, 2,600 air-dropped small-diameter bombs,
and other munitions, according to the officials, who were not authorized to speak publicly.

US has sent Israel thousands of 2,000-pound bombs since Oct. 7
While the officials didn't give a timeline for the shipments, the totals suggest there has been no significant drop-off in US military support for its ally.
By REUTERS
JUNE 28, 2024 23:51
Updated: JUNE 29, 2024 03:59

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Reply #31 - Jul 11th, 2025 at 5:37pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 1:00pm:
Gnads wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:51pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 8:31am:
wombatwoody wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 7:25am:
Do you know what the term passive voice means?



FD thinks that anyone who criticises the IDF and their murder of innocent women and children as 'antisemetic'


Because they don't & what's said is driven by jew hating Palestinian/Hamas propaganda.



The elephant in the room is this question
which no one in the media has asked -

Why didn't Israel attempt to get all the women and children out of Gaza
and put them into tents in say - the Negev desert before they
bombed the hell out of Gaza?

I mean - the Hamas terrorists slept safe every night, deep underground in tunnels
while the women and children were mercilessly bombed on the surface
with giant earthquake bombs - 10s of 1000s of them.


Because they are trying to exterminate the whole lot of them Sad
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Mogadishu:

Mobs up to a thousand unarmed Civilians WILLINGLY & ANGRILY used themselves as Human Shields for the armed Militia among them on attacks on Americans and later Pakistan & Malaysian forces.
Of course, stranded American soldiers and even overhead Helicopters trying to extract them. Were FORCED to fire into these approaching hundreds to a thousand at a time Mobs of both overt (armed) and covert (unarmed) - to disperse them from continuing.
In one instance, these unarmed civilians killed by hand, some American soldiers who had both run out of ammunition and were wounded. Only one was spared, only because he was deemed to be prisoner worth.

Of course, these American soldiers were GENOCIDERS right!? Wink

...as were the UN forces against invasive Iraqi forces on the infamous Highway 88, where thousands of Iraqi war vehicles and stolen vehicles were obliterated in a Turkey shoot to prevent Iraqi reuse in future threats (which it did 10 years later). Any Iraqi soldiers that fled the vehicles back to Iraq on foot were not targeted, but those that made the choice to remain in their tanks, etc - were destroyed.
Genocide innit!?

It's pretty obvious that the Lefties on here haven't a clue about warfare, let alone the good from the bad. The likes of peasant Nail and that Wombatwoody are the type no-one would want in their platoon. For they are known as 'dead meat' curse and the type of soldier who would kill civilians fleeing, because fear is their mind killer.
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Reply #33 - Jul 12th, 2025 at 1:13am
 
freediver wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:19pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:01pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 10:39am:
John Smith wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 8:31am:
wombatwoody wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 7:25am:
Do you know what the term passive voice means?



FD thinks that anyone who criticises the IDF and their murder of innocent women and children as 'antisemetic'


Just the ones who compulsively spread lies and cannot explain anything they post John. That's kind of a giveaway.


Like the jewish guy in the OP fd?


Like you and woody.


What lies?
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Reply #34 - Jul 12th, 2025 at 1:14am
 
freediver wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:49pm:
Woody posts about a dozen random youtube videos a day.


You're obviously confusing me with someone else.

Quote:
Even woody happily admits they are mostly BS


Substantiate that claim please.

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Reply #35 - Jul 12th, 2025 at 8:27am
 
wombatwoody wrote on Jul 12th, 2025 at 1:13am:
freediver wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:19pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 12:01pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 10:39am:
John Smith wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 8:31am:
wombatwoody wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 7:25am:
Do you know what the term passive voice means?



FD thinks that anyone who criticises the IDF and their murder of innocent women and children as 'antisemetic'


Just the ones who compulsively spread lies and cannot explain anything they post John. That's kind of a giveaway.


Like the jewish guy in the OP fd?


Like you and woody.


What lies?


Some examples:

Israel is deliberately targeting civilians.

Iran did half a trillion dollars worth of damage to Israel.

I could come up with others, if you ever actually said something, rather than playing the sock puppet. But that is two lies out of two things that you have said.
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Reply #36 - Jul 12th, 2025 at 8:46am
 
Question for FD,

is there some way Israel could have smashed Hamas without
killing 10s of 1000s of innocent women and children?

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Reply #37 - Jul 12th, 2025 at 8:51am
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 12th, 2025 at 8:46am:
Question for FD,

is there some way Israel could have smashed Hamas without
killing 10s of 1000s of innocent women and children?



Not that I am aware of. Hamas could have avoided it by not hiding among civilians, but there is not much Israel could have done. At the heart of the problem is a dedicated core of Islamists who mean it quite literally when they say they welcome death, and the majority of Palestinians who still support them. They spread the same racist propaganda about Jews that John Smith, Greg, woody etc spread here, but because of Islam it gains much broader traction among the public than the lunatic fringe that it captures here.
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Reply #38 - Jul 12th, 2025 at 9:04am
 
freediver wrote on Jul 12th, 2025 at 8:51am:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 12th, 2025 at 8:46am:
Question for FD,

is there some way Israel could have smashed Hamas without
killing 10s of 1000s of innocent women and children?



Not that I am aware of. Hamas could have avoided it by not hiding among civilians, but there is not much Israel could have done. At the heart of the problem is a dedicated core of Islamists who mean it quite literally when they say they welcome death, and the majority of Palestinians who still support them. They spread the same racist propaganda about Jews that John Smith, Greg, woody etc spread here, but because of Islam it gains much broader traction among the public than the lunatic fringe that it captures here.



Hamas have no morality whatsoever -
they literally hide behind the skirts of women  -
however I don't see any evidence that Israel even tried
to get the women and children out of Gaza - perhaps to the Negev desert -
before they started their earthquake bombing campaign.

One 2,000 pound bomb can level a 10 story building full of people
and pancake the layers - crushing everyone to death -
and even destroy an entire city block.
Imagine what 10s of 1000s of such bombs can do in the small area of Gaza?
Actually - there are plenty of pictures online for those lacking imagination.
Gaza looks like Hiroshima after WW2.
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Reply #39 - Jul 12th, 2025 at 10:04am
 
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however I don't see any evidence that Israel even tried
to get the women and children out of Gaza - perhaps to the Negev desert


What do you mean by that? Should Israel respond to attacks by Hamas by just opening the border and seeing what happens?
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Reply #40 - Jul 12th, 2025 at 10:55am
 
freediver wrote on Jul 12th, 2025 at 10:04am:
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however I don't see any evidence that Israel even tried
to get the women and children out of Gaza - perhaps to the Negev desert


What do you mean by that? Should Israel respond to attacks by Hamas by just opening the border and seeing what happens?



Yes - Israel have to prove they are the good guys -
that they are better than the terrorists.
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Reply #41 - Jul 12th, 2025 at 10:57am
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 12th, 2025 at 10:55am:
freediver wrote on Jul 12th, 2025 at 10:04am:
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however I don't see any evidence that Israel even tried
to get the women and children out of Gaza - perhaps to the Negev desert


What do you mean by that? Should Israel respond to attacks by Hamas by just opening the border and seeing what happens?



Yes - Israel have to prove they are the good guys -
that they are better than the terrorists.


By opening the borders and letting their attackers just wander in?
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Bobby. wrote on Jul 12th, 2025 at 10:55am:
Israel have to prove they are the good guys -
that they are better than the terrorists.



Israel is EXACTLY the same as the terrorists. There is no difference apart from the flag they fly and their propaganda departments.
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Reply #43 - Jul 12th, 2025 at 11:00am
 
John Smith wrote on Jul 12th, 2025 at 10:58am:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 12th, 2025 at 10:55am:
Israel have to prove they are the good guys -
that they are better than the terrorists.



Israel is EXACTLY the same as the terrorists. There is no difference apart from the flag they fly and their propaganda departments.


Can you play spot the difference John?

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Reply #44 - Jul 12th, 2025 at 1:21pm
 
more useless deflections fd  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy....

one day you might try actually discussing the issue
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Reply #45 - Jul 12th, 2025 at 1:43pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jul 12th, 2025 at 1:21pm:
more useless deflections fd  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy....

one day you might try actually discussing the issue


Says the Troll (like Brian) who constantly SOOKS "You answer my questions..." time and time again. Roll Eyes
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Reply #46 - Jul 12th, 2025 at 2:09pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 12th, 2025 at 10:57am:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 12th, 2025 at 10:55am:
freediver wrote on Jul 12th, 2025 at 10:04am:
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however I don't see any evidence that Israel even tried
to get the women and children out of Gaza - perhaps to the Negev desert


What do you mean by that? Should Israel respond to attacks by Hamas by just opening the border and seeing what happens?



Yes - Israel have to prove they are the good guys -
that they are better than the terrorists.


By opening the borders and letting their attackers just wander in?



I never said that -
by opening the border of Gaza and getting the women and kids bused out to Negev -

and following that as many other innocents as possible before destroying Hamas.
It's about doing the job that had to be done properly with as little loss of life
as is possible in a war.

What is the alternative ?  -
raining down 10s 0f 1000s of MK-84 earthquake bombs on top of them?
Bibi has been a prized idiot in the way he has conducted this war -
and even Jewish people will tell you that.
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Reply #47 - Jul 12th, 2025 at 2:30pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 12th, 2025 at 2:09pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 12th, 2025 at 10:57am:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 12th, 2025 at 10:55am:
freediver wrote on Jul 12th, 2025 at 10:04am:
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however I don't see any evidence that Israel even tried
to get the women and children out of Gaza - perhaps to the Negev desert


What do you mean by that? Should Israel respond to attacks by Hamas by just opening the border and seeing what happens?



Yes - Israel have to prove they are the good guys -
that they are better than the terrorists.


By opening the borders and letting their attackers just wander in?



I never said that -
by opening the border of Gaza and getting the women and kids bused out to Negev


Would you volunteer to drive a bus into the Gaza strip to take away their women and children?

How would you stop Hamas from dressing up as women and getting on the bus?
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Reply #48 - Jul 12th, 2025 at 2:34pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 12th, 2025 at 2:30pm:
Would you volunteer to drive a bus into the Gaza strip to take away their women and children?

How would you stop Hamas from dressing up as women and getting on the bus?



I wouldn't - they could use female Palestinian drivers?

Anyway -
no bus would be inside Gaza -
the buses would be outside the customs gate so it's not a problem.
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Bobby. wrote on Jul 12th, 2025 at 2:34pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 12th, 2025 at 2:30pm:
Would you volunteer to drive a bus into the Gaza strip to take away their women and children?

How would you stop Hamas from dressing up as women and getting on the bus?



I wouldn't - they could use female Palestinian drivers?

Anyway -
no bus would be inside Gaza -
the buses would be outside the customs gate so it's not a problem.


So what, just deliver a few hundred free busses to Palestine, open the boarder, and hope for the best?
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Reply #50 - Jul 12th, 2025 at 2:44pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 12th, 2025 at 2:35pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 12th, 2025 at 2:34pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 12th, 2025 at 2:30pm:
Would you volunteer to drive a bus into the Gaza strip to take away their women and children?

How would you stop Hamas from dressing up as women and getting on the bus?



I wouldn't - they could use female Palestinian drivers?

Anyway -
no bus would be inside Gaza -
the buses would be outside the customs gate so it's not a problem.


So what, just deliver a few hundred free busses to Palestine, open the boarder, and hope for the best?



Get them out - bus them off to tent camps -
get the Red Cross involved -
look after them until the war is over - then bus them back.

Israel could still do it now.
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Bobby. wrote on Jul 12th, 2025 at 2:44pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 12th, 2025 at 2:35pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 12th, 2025 at 2:34pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 12th, 2025 at 2:30pm:
Would you volunteer to drive a bus into the Gaza strip to take away their women and children?

How would you stop Hamas from dressing up as women and getting on the bus?



I wouldn't - they could use female Palestinian drivers?

Anyway -
no bus would be inside Gaza -
the buses would be outside the customs gate so it's not a problem.


So what, just deliver a few hundred free busses to Palestine, open the boarder, and hope for the best?



Get them out - bus them off to tent camps -
get the Red Cross involved -
look after them until the war is over - then bus them back.

Israel could still do it now.


Who should do this Bobby? Once you start sorting out the details, you quickly realise that "getting the civilians out before the military action starts" soon turns into a far bigger military action with even more loss of life.

If you give 100 free busses to Palestinian civilians, you will get 100 Hamas militants driving a bus full of explosives or armed militants back over the border.
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Reply #52 - Jul 12th, 2025 at 3:53pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 12th, 2025 at 3:38pm:
Who should do this Bobby? Once you start sorting out the details, you quickly realise that "getting the civilians out before the military action starts" soon turns into a far bigger military action with even more loss of life.

If you give 100 free busses to Palestinian civilians, you will get 100 Hamas militants driving a bus full of explosives or armed militants back over the border.



You're not giving buses to Palestinians -
they are just passengers being taken to a proposed refugee camp in the Negev desert
until the war has finished.
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Reply #53 - Jul 12th, 2025 at 5:50pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 12th, 2025 at 3:53pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 12th, 2025 at 3:38pm:
Who should do this Bobby? Once you start sorting out the details, you quickly realise that "getting the civilians out before the military action starts" soon turns into a far bigger military action with even more loss of life.

If you give 100 free busses to Palestinian civilians, you will get 100 Hamas militants driving a bus full of explosives or armed militants back over the border.



You're not giving buses to Palestinians -
they are just passengers being taken to a proposed refugee camp in the Negev desert
until the war has finished.


Who is driving the busses Bobby?
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Reply #54 - Jul 13th, 2025 at 12:24am
 
freediver wrote on Jul 12th, 2025 at 5:50pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 12th, 2025 at 3:53pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 12th, 2025 at 3:38pm:
Who should do this Bobby? Once you start sorting out the details, you quickly realise that "getting the civilians out before the military action starts" soon turns into a far bigger military action with even more loss of life.

If you give 100 free busses to Palestinian civilians, you will get 100 Hamas militants driving a bus full of explosives or armed militants back over the border.



You're not giving buses to Palestinians -
they are just passengers being taken to a proposed refugee camp in the Negev desert
until the war has finished.


Who is driving the busses Bobby?



Whoever - the Red Cross maybe?

Notice are well fed the Hamas fighters look?

Hamas get the lion's share of the food and water.
They sleep well every night, deep underground in tunnels.
They go up up to the surface when they are bored
and take a few pot shots at the IDF soldiers then return underground.
The women and children take all the return fire and bombs
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And what happens when Hamas takes the busses from the red cross?

What makes you think the red cross would want to get involved in taking women and children away from Muslim communities and get accused of ethnic cleansing?
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Reply #56 - Jul 13th, 2025 at 10:18am
 
freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 8:39am:
And what happens when Hamas takes the busses from the red cross?

What makes you think the red cross would want to get involved in taking women and children away from Muslim communities and get accused of ethnic cleansing?



Dear FD,
many blessings.

As the buses would be outside of Gaza and people would enter them from there -
I don't see how Hamas could take the buses or even want to take them.
Hamas would be glad that their women and children are finding safety.

The Red Cross is always glad to help in any humanitarian cause.
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Hamas would be glad that their women and children are finding safety.


If that were true, they would not be hiding among women and children in the first place.
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Those women and children would likely be wearing concealed explosives and willingly so.
Mogadishu civilians come to mind.
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Bobby, can men be civilians also?

Or do you only want their women and children?
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Semites are a sub-group of the Human Race... thus the term Judeophobe is more appropriate - or even Israelophobe or Zionophobe.

'antisemitism' has become far too over-used and inappropriately applied to hatred of Jews and Israel and Zionism... it is also possible to hate an Arab and thus be 'antisemitic' - so more appropriate terms are called for in modern discussion of the real issues.

Gazans/Philistines are not Semites... someone said they are of Greek origin.  Poor bustards - ambushed by a fanatical quasi-religious cult.
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freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 1:07pm:
Bobby, can men be civilians also?

Or do you only want their women and children?



Yes -  but first start with women and children -
see how that goes and then progress to others who want to be safe.
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Reply #62 - Jul 13th, 2025 at 1:56pm
 
Jasin wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 12:30pm:
Those women and children would likely be wearing concealed explosives and willingly so.
Mogadishu civilians come to mind.



Yes they would all have to go through one of those airport radio imaging boxes
to allow the operators to see if they are wearing anything they shouldn't be wearing.
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Reply #63 - Jul 13th, 2025 at 2:26pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 1:54pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 1:07pm:
Bobby, can men be civilians also?

Or do you only want their women and children?



Yes -  but first start with women and children -
see how that goes and then progress to others who want to be safe.


So what happens if you get all the women and children out, then go into Gaza, an find all the men, but they all insist they are not Hamas?
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Reply #64 - Jul 13th, 2025 at 2:37pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 2:26pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 1:54pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 1:07pm:
Bobby, can men be civilians also?

Or do you only want their women and children?



Yes -  but first start with women and children -
see how that goes and then progress to others who want to be safe.


So what happens if you get all the women and children out, then go into Gaza, an find all the men, but they all insist they are not Hamas?



Well if they surrender then that's OK.

Time for peace.
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Reply #65 - Jul 13th, 2025 at 3:06pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 2:37pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 2:26pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 1:54pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 1:07pm:
Bobby, can men be civilians also?

Or do you only want their women and children?



Yes -  but first start with women and children -
see how that goes and then progress to others who want to be safe.


So what happens if you get all the women and children out, then go into Gaza, an find all the men, but they all insist they are not Hamas?



Well if they surrender then that's OK.

Time for peace.


So they surrender, and as soon as all the women and children come back, they start lobbing rockets again. What then?
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Reply #66 - Jul 13th, 2025 at 3:09pm
 
There is no way out of this Bobby.
The UN failed, the Left failed and both blame Israel for making them look like failures.
Palestine must go and other Arab nations hope so.
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Reply #67 - Jul 13th, 2025 at 3:20pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 3:06pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 2:37pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 2:26pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 1:54pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 1:07pm:
Bobby, can men be civilians also?

Or do you only want their women and children?



Yes -  but first start with women and children -
see how that goes and then progress to others who want to be safe.


So what happens if you get all the women and children out, then go into Gaza, an find all the men, but they all insist they are not Hamas?



Well if they surrender then that's OK.

Time for peace.


So they surrender, and as soon as all the women and children come back,
they start lobbing rockets again. What then?



I dunno - Trump wants to get them out altogether -
he wants to build Trump towers, a casino and a golf course there.
The problem is that no one wants them in their country
as they are considered trouble makers.
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Reply #68 - Jul 13th, 2025 at 11:31pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 12th, 2025 at 3:53pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 12th, 2025 at 3:38pm:
Who should do this Bobby? Once you start sorting out the details, you quickly realise that "getting the civilians out before the military action starts" soon turns into a far bigger military action with even more loss of life.

If you give 100 free busses to Palestinian civilians, you will get 100 Hamas militants driving a bus full of explosives or armed militants back over the border.


You're not giving buses to Palestinians -
they are just passengers being taken to a proposed refugee camp in the Negev desert
until the war has finished.


Alas, Bobby, I think what FD's trying to tell you is you're missing the point.

The war won't be finished until the IDF has killed every last Gazan. After that, Israel plans to clean up the West Bank. As we speak, they're bulldozing Palestinian homes and expanding Israeli settlements there. Bibi has three and a half years left of your DL and he's going to make the most of it. By the time Bibi's done, the state of Israel will be cleansed of all Palestinians from the river to the sea.

FD's right. While you quibble over bus timetabling and staffing issues, the IDF has a job to do. They're hardly going to put a pause on their genocide to let a few women and children through, now are they?

Israel has nothing to hide. Finance minister Bezalel Smotrich has described the government's plan in media briefings: to destroy Gaza entirely.

They also have plans to take southern Lebanon. They're currently using drones to target apartment blocks in Beirut, where Israel has full air cover. When the time's right, they'll invite the US in to launch a full scale invasion of Iran.

That's a little more complicated. Bibi wants to act now. DL asked him to wait a little more until the US mid-terms. They discussed this in the Oval Office just this week. There, for the first time, the US hosted an indicted war criminal on a full state visit. In return, Bibi handed your DL a copy of his letter nominating the big fella for a Nobel peace prize.

As you do, no?

It's all working exactly as planned. The big fella used his first state visit as prez to discuss the investment with Saudi Arabia and Qatar. To stave off any perceptions of a conflict of interest, Eric and Don Junior were there on behalf of the Trump Org. Jared Kushner has plans for a chain of five star resorts along the Gaza strip. The big fella suggested using the US army as a demolition crew, which got a big thumbs up from Pete Hegseth. Somebody even got to work on the marketing, posting an AI video of the big fella and Elon sipping on cocktails and getting a tan on what they're calling the Gaza Riviera.

Apart from Elon being in, it's all in accordance. And no, none of this is satire, dear, it's reality. You've gotta have a dream, no?

So stop all this silly micro-managing and let them get on with the job. FD's right. The only way you're going to fix this mess is a Final Solution to the Palestinian problem. After Bibi's finished them off, DL can invade Iran, topple the Mullahs, win the mid-terms and save his job. His Nobel peace prize will be the icing on the cake.

Mission accomplished, innit.
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Reply #69 - Jul 13th, 2025 at 11:56pm
 
Karnal wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 11:31pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 12th, 2025 at 3:53pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 12th, 2025 at 3:38pm:
Who should do this Bobby? Once you start sorting out the details, you quickly realise that "getting the civilians out before the military action starts" soon turns into a far bigger military action with even more loss of life.

If you give 100 free busses to Palestinian civilians, you will get 100 Hamas militants driving a bus full of explosives or armed militants back over the border.


You're not giving buses to Palestinians -
they are just passengers being taken to a proposed refugee camp in the Negev desert
until the war has finished.


Alas, Bobby, I think what FD's trying to tell you is you're missing the point.

The war won't be finished until the IDF has killed every last Gazan. After that, Israel plans to clean up the West Bank. As we speak, they're bulldozing Palestinian homes and expanding Israeli settlements there. Bibi has three and a half years left of your DL and he's going to make the most of it. By the time Bibi's done, the state of Israel will be cleansed of all Palestinians from the river to the sea.

FD's right. While you quibble over bus timetabling and staffing issues, the IDF has a job to do. They're hardly going to put a pause on their genocide to let a few women and children through, now are they?

Israel has nothing to hide. Finance minister Bezalel Smotrich has described the government's plan in media briefings: to destroy Gaza entirely.

They also have plans to take southern Lebanon. They're currently using drones to target apartment blocks in Beirut, where Israel has full air cover. When the time's right, they'll invite the US in to launch a full scale invasion of Iran.

That's a little more complicated. Bibi wants to act now. DL asked him to wait a little more until the US mid-terms. They discussed this in the Oval Office just this week. There, for the first time, the US hosted an indicted war criminal on a full state visit. In return, Bibi handed your DL a copy of his letter nominating the big fella for a Nobel peace prize.

As you do, no?

It's all working exactly as planned. The big fella used his first state visit as prez to discuss the investment with Saudi Arabia and Qatar. To stave off any perceptions of a conflict of interest, Eric and Don Junior were there on behalf of the Trump Org. Jared Kushner has plans for a chain of five star resorts along the Gaza strip. The big fella suggested using the US army as a demolition crew, which got a big thumbs up from Pete Hegseth. Somebody even got to work on the marketing, posting an AI video of the big fella and Elon sipping on cocktails and getting a tan on what they're calling the Gaza Riviera.

Apart from Elon being in, it's all in accordance. And no, none of this is satire, dear, it's reality. You've gotta have a dream, no?

So stop all this silly micro-managing and let them get on with the job. FD's right. The only way you're going to fix this mess is a Final Solution to the Palestinian problem. After Bibi's finished them off, DL can invade Iran, topple the Mullahs, win the mid-terms and save his job. His Nobel peace prize will be the icing on the cake.

Mission accomplished, innit.



dear Karnal,
many blessings,
you're a very cynical man.

forgiven

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Reply #70 - Jul 14th, 2025 at 9:56am
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 3:20pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 3:06pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 2:37pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 2:26pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 1:54pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 1:07pm:
Bobby, can men be civilians also?

Or do you only want their women and children?



Yes -  but first start with women and children -
see how that goes and then progress to others who want to be safe.


So what happens if you get all the women and children out, then go into Gaza, an find all the men, but they all insist they are not Hamas?



Well if they surrender then that's OK.

Time for peace.


So they surrender, and as soon as all the women and children come back,
they start lobbing rockets again. What then?



I dunno - Trump wants to get them out altogether -
he wants to build Trump towers, a casino and a golf course there.
The problem is that no one wants them in their country
as they are considered trouble makers.


Better not mention that Bobby. People might think your ethnic cleansing scheme is part of a broader ethnic cleansing scheme.
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Reply #71 - Jul 14th, 2025 at 10:10am
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 11:56pm:
Karnal wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 11:31pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 12th, 2025 at 3:53pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 12th, 2025 at 3:38pm:
Who should do this Bobby? Once you start sorting out the details, you quickly realise that "getting the civilians out before the military action starts" soon turns into a far bigger military action with even more loss of life.

If you give 100 free busses to Palestinian civilians, you will get 100 Hamas militants driving a bus full of explosives or armed militants back over the border.


You're not giving buses to Palestinians -
they are just passengers being taken to a proposed refugee camp in the Negev desert
until the war has finished.


Alas, Bobby, I think what FD's trying to tell you is you're missing the point.

The war won't be finished until the IDF has killed every last Gazan. After that, Israel plans to clean up the West Bank. As we speak, they're bulldozing Palestinian homes and expanding Israeli settlements there. Bibi has three and a half years left of your DL and he's going to make the most of it. By the time Bibi's done, the state of Israel will be cleansed of all Palestinians from the river to the sea.

FD's right. While you quibble over bus timetabling and staffing issues, the IDF has a job to do. They're hardly going to put a pause on their genocide to let a few women and children through, now are they?

Israel has nothing to hide. Finance minister Bezalel Smotrich has described the government's plan in media briefings: to destroy Gaza entirely.

They also have plans to take southern Lebanon. They're currently using drones to target apartment blocks in Beirut, where Israel has full air cover. When the time's right, they'll invite the US in to launch a full scale invasion of Iran.

That's a little more complicated. Bibi wants to act now. DL asked him to wait a little more until the US mid-terms. They discussed this in the Oval Office just this week. There, for the first time, the US hosted an indicted war criminal on a full state visit. In return, Bibi handed your DL a copy of his letter nominating the big fella for a Nobel peace prize.

As you do, no?

It's all working exactly as planned. The big fella used his first state visit as prez to discuss the investment with Saudi Arabia and Qatar. To stave off any perceptions of a conflict of interest, Eric and Don Junior were there on behalf of the Trump Org. Jared Kushner has plans for a chain of five star resorts along the Gaza strip. The big fella suggested using the US army as a demolition crew, which got a big thumbs up from Pete Hegseth. Somebody even got to work on the marketing, posting an AI video of the big fella and Elon sipping on cocktails and getting a tan on what they're calling the Gaza Riviera.

Apart from Elon being in, it's all in accordance. And no, none of this is satire, dear, it's reality. You've gotta have a dream, no?

So stop all this silly micro-managing and let them get on with the job. FD's right. The only way you're going to fix this mess is a Final Solution to the Palestinian problem. After Bibi's finished them off, DL can invade Iran, topple the Mullahs, win the mid-terms and save his job. His Nobel peace prize will be the icing on the cake.

Mission accomplished, innit.



dear Karnal,
many blessings,
you're a very cynical man.

forgiven

namaste


Just reporting the facts, Bobby. Everything in the above post is evidenced, verified and in accordance.

FD knows it, and you do too. Your only difference of opinion is the option of saving a handful of lives.

FD wants full annihilation, you want to let them suffer a little longer.

There is an alternative, of course, but none of you will consider it.
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Reply #72 - Jul 14th, 2025 at 10:17am
 
freediver wrote on Jul 14th, 2025 at 9:56am:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 3:20pm:
I dunno - Trump wants to get them out altogether -
he wants to build Trump towers, a casino and a golf course there.
The problem is that no one wants them in their country
as they are considered trouble makers.


Better not mention that Bobby. People might think your ethnic cleansing scheme is part of a broader ethnic cleansing scheme.



But my idea is only temporary so that Israel can get rid of Hamas
without killing any more women and children.

Trump's dreams are not to be taken seriously - he was only joking.   Embarrassed
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Reply #73 - Jul 14th, 2025 at 10:54am
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 14th, 2025 at 10:17am:
freediver wrote on Jul 14th, 2025 at 9:56am:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 3:20pm:
I dunno - Trump wants to get them out altogether -
he wants to build Trump towers, a casino and a golf course there.
The problem is that no one wants them in their country
as they are considered trouble makers.


Better not mention that Bobby. People might think your ethnic cleansing scheme is part of a broader ethnic cleansing scheme.



But my idea is only temporary so that Israel can get rid of Hamas
without killing any more women and children.

Trump's dreams are not to be taken seriously - he was only joking.   Embarrassed


How would it get rid of Hamas? Would you have them kill every adult male in the Gaza strip?
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Reply #74 - Jul 14th, 2025 at 11:04am
 
freediver wrote on Jul 14th, 2025 at 10:54am:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 14th, 2025 at 10:17am:
freediver wrote on Jul 14th, 2025 at 9:56am:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 3:20pm:
I dunno - Trump wants to get them out altogether -
he wants to build Trump towers, a casino and a golf course there.
The problem is that no one wants them in their country
as they are considered trouble makers.


Better not mention that Bobby. People might think your ethnic cleansing scheme is part of a broader ethnic cleansing scheme.



But my idea is only temporary so that Israel can get rid of Hamas
without killing any more women and children.

Trump's dreams are not to be taken seriously - he was only joking.   Embarrassed


How would it get rid of Hamas? Would you have them kill every adult male in the Gaza strip?



Dunno - in any case my idea is not gunna happen.


latest:


https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-said-to-warn-against-gaza-humanitarian-city-ex...


IDF said to warn against Gaza ‘humanitarian city’; ex-PM brands it ‘concentration camp’


Military reportedly tells ministers plan for large civilian zone may harm hostage talks,
take months to build; opposition chief and international officials also castigate proposal


By Nava Freiberg, Follow
ToI Staff and AFP
Today, 2:46 am


A proposed plan to establish a “humanitarian city” in southern Gaza, in which at least 600,000 Palestinians would be confined, continued to receive backlash from within Israel and abroad on Sunday, with some, including former prime minister Ehud Olmert, alleging that it resembled the Nazi concentration camps built during World War II.
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Reply #75 - Jul 14th, 2025 at 7:18pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 14th, 2025 at 10:17am:
freediver wrote on Jul 14th, 2025 at 9:56am:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 3:20pm:
I dunno - Trump wants to get them out altogether -
he wants to build Trump towers, a casino and a golf course there.
The problem is that no one wants them in their country
as they are considered trouble makers.


Better not mention that Bobby. People might think your ethnic cleansing scheme is part of a broader ethnic cleansing scheme.



But my idea is only temporary so that Israel can get rid of Hamas
without killing any more women and children.

Trump's dreams are not to be taken seriously - he was only joking.   Embarrassed


You always say that. Whenever he goes ahead and does it, you say oh well, that's his right as our DL.

FD is spot on. Your ethnic cleansing scheme is part of a broader ethnic cleansing scheme.

You and FD are on the exact same page on this.
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Reply #76 - Jul 15th, 2025 at 8:14am
 
Karnal wrote on Jul 14th, 2025 at 7:18pm:
You always say that. Whenever he goes ahead and does it, you say oh well, that's his right as our DL.

FD is spot on. Your ethnic cleansing scheme is part of a broader ethnic cleansing scheme.

You and FD are on the exact same page on this.



What are you gonna say when Trump walks right up
to the podium and accepts his Nobel peace prize?
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Reply #77 - Jul 15th, 2025 at 9:07am
 
Year 2030.
The people of what was Roman Palestine are now a diaspora of scattered around the world, as the karma of Palestine is complete and the Jews of Israel say " Now how do you like it?" Tongue
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Reply #78 - Jul 15th, 2025 at 9:10am
 
Jasin wrote on Jul 15th, 2025 at 9:07am:
Year 2030.
The people of what was Roman Palestine are now a diaspora of scattered around the world, as the karma of Palestine is complete and the Jews of Israel say " Now how do you like it?" Tongue


Who wants to live in a country with rockets raining down all the time?
The Jews are leaving Israel by the 100s of 1000s.

Maybe millions will be gone by 2030 ?
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Reply #79 - Jul 15th, 2025 at 9:25am
 
Yet a lot of people are going to Israel from around the world to help it also. Makes sense, their women and children are leaving to safety, while more men are joining Israel in its fight.

Israel doesn't hide behind its women and children.
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Reply #80 - Jul 15th, 2025 at 9:36am
 
Jasin wrote on Jul 15th, 2025 at 9:25am:
Yet a lot of people are going to Israel from around the world to help it also. Makes sense, their women and children are leaving to safety, while more men are joining Israel in its fight.

Israel doesn't hide behind its women and children.



I believe Israel is keeping the exodus secret.   Wink
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It's no secret. It's sensible to move the vulnerable to safety.
Something Palestine refuses to do where the civilians prefer to attack Israel, like civilians of Mogadishu charged at the American, Malaysian and Pakistan troops to shield the militias.
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Reply #82 - Jul 15th, 2025 at 9:50am
 
Jasin wrote on Jul 15th, 2025 at 9:42am:
It's no secret. It's sensible to move the vulnerable to safety.
Something Palestine refuses to do where the civilians prefer to attack Israel, like civilians of Mogadishu charged at the American, Malaysian and Pakistan troops to shield the militias.



It's like Nazi Germany in the 1930s -

those Jews wealthy enough are moving to other countries -
a lot of them have moved to New York.
The poorer ones are waiting for the Arabs to give them
a free shower at a concentration camp.
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It's not about wealth. It's about vulnerability and safety first.
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Reply #84 - Jul 15th, 2025 at 11:15am
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2025 at 8:14am:
Karnal wrote on Jul 14th, 2025 at 7:18pm:
You always say that. Whenever he goes ahead and does it, you say oh well, that's his right as our DL.

FD is spot on. Your ethnic cleansing scheme is part of a broader ethnic cleansing scheme.

You and FD are on the exact same page on this.



What are you gonna say when Trump walks right up
to the podium and accepts his Nobel peace prize?


What are you gonna say when he approves the next cache of arms to Israel?
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Reply #85 - Jul 15th, 2025 at 11:17am
 
Karnal wrote on Jul 15th, 2025 at 11:15am:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2025 at 8:14am:
Karnal wrote on Jul 14th, 2025 at 7:18pm:
You always say that. Whenever he goes ahead and does it, you say oh well, that's his right as our DL.

FD is spot on. Your ethnic cleansing scheme is part of a broader ethnic cleansing scheme.

You and FD are on the exact same page on this.



What are you gonna say when Trump walks right up
to the podium and accepts his Nobel peace prize?


What are you gonna say when he approves the next cache of arms to Israel?


Is it worth Palestinians keeping innocent hostages that's what I would say.
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I guess this guy is an anti semite too. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Quote:
Former Israeli defense minister Yaalon warns of ethnic cleansing in Gaza

JERUSALEM, Dec 1 (Reuters) - A former Israeli defense minister has accused Israel of committing war crimes and ethnic cleansing in the Gaza Strip, drawing a sharp rebuke from government ranks.
Moshe Yaalon, a hawkish former general, told Israeli media that hardliners in Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's far-right cabinet were looking to chase Palestinians from northern Gaza and wanted to re-establish Jewish settlements there.

"I am compelled to warn about what is happening there and is being concealed from us," Yaalon told Israel's public broadcaster Kan on Sunday. "At the end of the day, war crimes are being committed."
Yaalon is a former army chief of staff who served as defence minister under Netanyahu from 2013-16, and has been a fierce critic of the prime minister ever since.
Netanyahu's Likud party accused him of spreading "slanderous lies", while Foreign Minister Gideon Sa'ar, head of a small rightist party, said his accusations were baseless.
"Everything Israel does is in accordance with international law and it is a pity that former minister Ya'alon does not realise the damage that he has done and retract his remarks," he told a conference hosted by Israel Today newspaper.
The International Criminal Court (ICC) last month issued arrest warrants for Netanyahu and his former defence chief Yoav Gallant for alleged war crimes and crimes against humanity in the Gaza conflict.
Netanyahu and Gallant both rejected the charges, but in a separate interview with Democrat TV on Saturday, Yaalon warned that the nation was at a crossroads with the government looking "to conquer, to annex, to carry out ethnic cleansing".
SURPRISE ATTACK
Palestinians have long accused Israel of looking to chase them out of swathes of Gaza during the ongoing conflict.
Israel has been at war in Gaza since October 2023, after Hamas militants launched a surprise attack in which they killed about 1,200 people and abducted more than 250 hostages. Israel's military campaign in Gaza has killed more than 44,400 people and displaced nearly all of the enclave's population.
In recent weeks, the Israelis have focused much of their firepower back on northern Gaza, saying they are targeting Hamas fighters who have regrouped, and urging civilians to leave the area until further notice.
"What is going on there? There is no Beit Lahiya, no Beit Hanoun, they are operating now in Jabaliya and basically cleaning the area of Arabs," Yaalon told Democrat TV, referring to Palestinian neighbourhoods north of Gaza City.
He added that hardliners wanted to establish Jewish settlement there, 19 years after Israel withdrew from the territory - a disengagement Yaalon had opposed at the time.
Housing Minister Yitzhak Goldknopf visited the Gaza border last Thursday and backed an initiative to re-establish settlements in the enclave.
"Jewish settlement here is the answer to the terrible (Oct. 7, 2023) massacre and the answer to the International Criminal Court in the Hague," Goldknopf was quoted as saying in Israeli media.
Most world powers deem settlements built in territory Israel seized in the 1967 war as illegal and see their expansion as an obstacle to peace, since they eat away at land the Palestinians want for a future state.





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Or what about this guy, a former PM of Israel ... he must be another anti semite


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Former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert penned an op-ed in Haaretz on Tuesday that, among other things, accused Tel Aviv of systematically carrying out war crimes in the Gaza Strip. He called Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu a “crime boss” fighting a “private political war.” He also warned of the risks of escalation in the occupied West Bank where some illegal settlers are calling for “genocide.” Olmert was the prime minister of Israel between 2006-2009. At the end of his term, he launched a brutal war on Gaza dubbed Operation Cast Lead.

Olmert opens by declaring “The government of Israel is currently waging a war without purpose, without goals or clear planning and with no chances of success.” This dovetails with numerous statements and intelligence estimates from Washington which have warned since the early stages of Tel Aviv’s genocidal campaign that, although massive numbers of civilians were being slaughtered, Hamas’ ranks were increasing or only minimally decreasing.

The former prime minister then takes aim at the IDF’s newly launched ground offensive in Gaza, after more than two months of a full siege strangling and starving the Palestinians, systematically depriving them of food, water, fuel, medicine, and electricity. “The obvious result of Operation Gideon’s Chariots is, first and foremost, the confused activity of Israeli military units deployed around Gaza. This is true particularly in neighborhoods where our soldiers have already fought, were hurt and fell while killing many Hamas combatants, who deserve to die, and many more innocent civilians. These have joined the statistics of pointless victims among the Palestinian population, reaching monstrous proportions,” Olmert laments.

Even the Palestinian Health Ministry’s conservative estimate of the death toll in Gaza – which only accounts for the deceased victims taken to the remaining hospitals and mourges – is over 60,000. Additionally, over 111,000 Palestinian men, women, and children have been wounded.

Olmert then discusses the “humanitarian disaster area” that is current day Gaza under incessant bombardment with marauding IDF soldiers carrying out “illegitimate” operations. “Recent operations in Gaza have nothing to do with legitimate war goals. The government sends our soldiers – and the military obeys – to wander around Gaza City, Jabalya and Khan Yunis neighborhoods in an illegitimate military operation. This is now a private political war. Its immediate result is the transformation of Gaza into a humanitarian disaster area.”

The most recent data released by the Integrated Food Security Phase Classification admonished that the entire population of Gaza, some 2.1 million people, are at “critical risk of famine.” The report showed that one in five people in Gaza – 500,000 – are facing starvation. The World Health Organization has documented dozens of children dying of malnutrition since last March when the full blockade was resumed.

Olmert describes how until now and throughout the bulk of the genocidal campaign, he has attempted to rebuke accusations of systemic war crimes in Gaza by arguing there were no orders from the top of the military or government to kill large numbers of Palestinian civilians indiscriminately. However, before outlining why his point of view has now changed, he concedes “this war should have ended by early 2024. It continued without justification, without any clear goal and with no political vision for the future of Gaza and the Middle East in general.”

Referring to the International Criminal Court’s charges of war crimes against Netanyahu and former Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant, Olmert details his previous position. “Genocide and war crimes are legal terms that very much refer to the intent and responsibility of the people authorized to formulate the war’s objectives, its conduct and its purpose, the boundaries of fighting and the limitations on the use of force. I took every available opportunity to distinguish between the crimes we have been accused of, which I refused to admit, and the carelessness and indifference regarding Gazan victims and the unbearable human cost we’ve been levying there. The first accusation I rejected, the second I admitted to,” he writes.

Olmert then admits top Israeli officials are knowingly carrying out what he characterizes as evil and malicious war crimes. “In recent weeks I’ve been no longer able to do so. What we are doing in Gaza now is a war of devastation: indiscriminate, limitless, cruel and criminal killing of civilians. We’re not doing this due to loss of control in any specific sector, not due to some disproportionate outburst by some soldiers in some unit. Rather, it’s the result of government policy – knowingly, evilly, maliciously, irresponsibly dictated. Yes, Israel is committing war crimes.”

He takes aim at Netanyahu’s starvation and extermination campaign against the Palestinians. “First, starving out Gaza. On this issue, the position of senior government figures is public and clear. Yes, we’ve been denying Gazans food, medicine and basic living needs as part of an explicit policy. Netanyahu, typically, is trying to blur the type of orders he’s been giving, in order to evade legal and criminal responsibility in due course. But some of his lackeys are saying so outright, in public, even with pride: Yes, we will starve out Gaza.


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Because all Gazans are Hamas, there’s no moral or operational limitation on exterminating them all, over two million people.”

Olmert then explains the wholesale dysfunction pervading Israeli society. He decries how much of the media in Israel is providing its audience a sanitized version of the bloody reality in Gaza while Israeli officials chalk up the international outcry over the genocide of the Palestinians as pure antisemitism.

“Israeli media outlets, each for its own reasons (some understandable) are trying to present a moderate version of events in Gaza. But the picture displayed around the world is much broader, much more devastating. It’s impossible to view it with equanimity and a nod, as if the world’s reaction is merely a widespread outburst of antisemitism, because everybody hates us and they’re all antisemites. Well, no… They’ve been hearing the voices from Gaza. They see the suffering of hundreds of thousands of civilians. They’ve been hearing the voices from Israeli cabinet meetings and realize the obvious: Israeli cabinet ministers, headed by crime boss Netanyahu, are actively, unhesitatingly and with malice aforethought are pursuing a policy of starvation and humanitarian pressure, with potentially catastrophic results,” Olmert writes.

Olmert then begins warning about the potentially dire consequences Israel will face if it continues its policies of extermination in Gaza, leading to war crimes tribunals, as well as political and economic isolation from the rest of the world. “Voices are already rising from Israel-friendly governments such as Canada, the U.K. and France, calling for concrete measures against the government, though these could cause grievous harm to Israel. Macron suggested a review of the association agreement between Israel and the European Union, a suggestion seconded by the prime ministers of Spain, the Netherlands and Italy. These latter two, unlike Macron, are both right-wing leaders, and until recently had declined any move that could have embarrassed Israel.”

Olmert continues, “These voices will grow. There’s a risk that tangible punishment will be directed at Israel beyond steps by the International Criminal Court at The Hague, with lethal financial and diplomatic results. The Netanyahu government’s choir of thugs and the poison machine it has been operating will immediately decry typical victimization: the Gentiles are antisemites. They hate us. They’ve always been against us. They support terrorism – while we fight terrorism. In truth, these governments aren’t anti-Israeli, they oppose the Israeli government. They believe the government has declared war on the state of Israel and its inhabitants, and it may have caused irreversible damage. I concur. I believe the government of Israel is now the enemy from within. It has declared war on the state and its inhabitants. No external foe we’ve fought against over the past 77 years has caused greater damage to Israel than what the Itamar Ben-Gvir, Netanyahu and Bezalel Smotrich-led government has inflicted on us.”

The former Israeli leader then turns to the brutal violence unleashed against Palestinians in the West Bank since October 2023, where approximately 900 Palestinians have been killed by the IDF and illegal settlers including nearly 200 children. “And while all this mess is going on, we keep on slaughtering Palestinian civilians in the West Bank, too. I have said so before, and I will not go back on my word. Members of the horrible hilltop youth are daily perpetrating heinous crimes all over the West Bank, while the police and military units deployed in the area are turning a blind eye.”

For years, the “Hilltop Youth” have been some of the most radical settlers rampaging throughout the West Bank, stealing Palestinian land, attacking and killing innocents including some as young as infants. In recent years, members of the group have been inducted into an IDF unit called ‘Desert Frontier‘ carrying out attacks against Palestinians living the West Bank.

Olmert warns that settler leaders are now calling for “genocide” against Palestinians in the West Bank. “The statement by head of the Samaria Regional Council, Yossi Dagan, saying that Palestinian villages must be destroyed, is a declaration of genocide. When a Palestinian village burns down, and quite a few already have, they’ll tell us that the perpetrators are a small, violent group that does not represent settlers. This is a lie. They are many. The vanguard is always smaller. Behind it are the Yossi Dagans who are inspiring them, helping them to avoid exposure and preparing the next wave of rioters. Where is the police? Where is the military? Where are the tens of thousands of settlers who ought to say that these horrifying hilltop youths are criminals who should be sent to prison rather than wandering around olive orchards belonging to West Bank residents.”

Pointing to the footage proliferating on Israeli social media since the IDF invaded Gaza, Olmert condemns the daily execution of civilians, as well as the looting and destruction of Palestinians’ homes. “Nor is it possible to ignore what has been happening in some Israeli military units, including special forces, where the best and most daring soldiers serve. There have been too many incidents of cruel shooting at civilians, of destruction of property and homes, even when this should not happen.


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There is too much looting and theft from homes, about which in many cases Israeli soldiers have boasted. Some have gone as far as posting about their antics online. Israelis are committing war crimes,” Olmert asserts.

The former prime minister stops short of admitting that the IDF is actively carrying out a campaign of ethnic cleansing before cautioning “we are nearing the point when it will be undeniable that such is the unavoidable result of what the government, the military and our brave soldiers have been doing in practice. It is time to halt, before we are all banished from the family of nations and are summoned to the International Criminal Court for war crimes, with no good defense. Enough is enough.”


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Karnal wrote on Jul 15th, 2025 at 11:15am:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2025 at 8:14am:
Karnal wrote on Jul 14th, 2025 at 7:18pm:
You always say that. Whenever he goes ahead and does it, you say oh well, that's his right as our DL.

FD is spot on. Your ethnic cleansing scheme is part of a broader ethnic cleansing scheme.

You and FD are on the exact same page on this.



What are you gonna say when Trump walks right up
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What are you gonna say when he approves the next cache of arms to Israel?



The rumor is that Trump is lying -
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Trump is a good liar.
The Democrats proved they are bad liars. Grin
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Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2025 at 5:52pm:
Karnal wrote on Jul 15th, 2025 at 11:15am:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2025 at 8:14am:
Karnal wrote on Jul 14th, 2025 at 7:18pm:
You always say that. Whenever he goes ahead and does it, you say oh well, that's his right as our DL.

FD is spot on. Your ethnic cleansing scheme is part of a broader ethnic cleansing scheme.

You and FD are on the exact same page on this.



What are you gonna say when Trump walks right up
to the podium and accepts his Nobel peace prize?


What are you gonna say when he approves the next cache of arms to Israel?



The rumor is that Trump is lying -
the US doesn't have 10 or 18 Patriot missile systems to sell into Europe.


No no, you were asked what you're gonna say when your DL approves the next arms shipment to Israel. When Sleepy Joe did this, you called him a mass murderer, responsible for the deaths of all those kiddies in Gaza.

What say you now?
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Leroy wrote on Jul 15th, 2025 at 11:17am:
Karnal wrote on Jul 15th, 2025 at 11:15am:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2025 at 8:14am:
Karnal wrote on Jul 14th, 2025 at 7:18pm:
You always say that. Whenever he goes ahead and does it, you say oh well, that's his right as our DL.

FD is spot on. Your ethnic cleansing scheme is part of a broader ethnic cleansing scheme.

You and FD are on the exact same page on this.



What are you gonna say when Trump walks right up
to the podium and accepts his Nobel peace prize?


What are you gonna say when he approves the next cache of arms to Israel?


Is it worth Palestinians keeping innocent hostages that's what I would say.


Would you now?

Is it worth Israel keeping the thousands of Palestinian hostages Bibi's refusing to hand over?

He could have had the Israeli hostages returned in November 2023.

What do you think all those Israelis were protesting about?

Back then, Israel held over 5,200 Palestinians, detained for over two years without charges, access to lawyers or even, in the case of children, access to their parents. Israel has been breaching the UNDHR and various UN conventions for years. Hamas offered a straight swap, rejected outright, but do you know?

That's all by the bye. Today, the entire Gaza strip is an open-air prison, with black ops camps set up all over Israel. There, even more Palestinian civilians have been detained without charge, tortured and killed.

Israel has specifically targeted doctors in order to speed up its genocide. You don't have to believe me, dear.

Watch the BBC documentary, Gaza: Doctors Under Attack. Israeli soldiers and doctors have testified themselves.



You're new here, Leroy, so you wouldn't have read the owner of our board's views on Freeeeedom. He started our board to promote the rise of liberal democracy, you see.

It is a jolly world, he said. Freeeedom is inevitable. Soon, China, North Korea, everybody will get to say what they think, and with that, prosperity is inevitable. Free speech, free trade, let a hundred flowers bloom. A rising tide lifts all boats, mkay?

That was before he supported a certain prez, who happily sues media outlets, threatens to cancel the licenses of broadcasters reporting facts, imposes unilateral tariffs and starts trade wars with his allies.

That was before he supported the IDF targeting journalists with drones, blocking supplies of food aid and using snipers to take out children queuing for food.

Those were the good old days, Leroy. Difficult times call for difficult measures, no?

Freeeeeedom, innit.
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Jasin wrote on Jul 15th, 2025 at 6:30pm:
Trump is a good liar.
The Democrats proved they are bad liars. Grin


Strange. When we told you that, you threw a hissy fit. Never! You shrieked. He's a truth-teller!

Great to see we're all on the same page, JaSin. Now, there's only one thing left to confess.

We're Aussies. You?
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No we are not. I've never used the words 'truth-teller'.
Trump played you Lefties at your own game and bettered you.
That's the amusing thing about Trump. He showed the world your hypocrisy and proved that the Left is more Media, than Politics. Nothing but an 'actor'.

So keep your slimey lies to yourself. They make you look bad.  Grin
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Jasin wrote on Jul 16th, 2025 at 8:10am:
No we are not. I've never used the words 'truth-teller'.
Trump played you Lefties at your own game and bettered you.
That's the amusing thing about Trump. He showed the world your hypocrisy and proved that the Left is more Media, than Politics. Nothing but an 'actor'.

So keep your slimey lies to yourself. They make you look bad.  Grin


Lies about lies, is it?

You mean good lies, right?

No worries, JaSin. Which regime are you posting from again?

Give us the good oil, dear.

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You're an imbecile and are about as funny as a dunny on the side of the road. Roll Eyes
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Reply #98 - Jul 16th, 2025 at 9:03am
 
Karnal wrote on Jul 16th, 2025 at 1:09am:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2025 at 5:52pm:
Karnal wrote on Jul 15th, 2025 at 11:15am:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2025 at 8:14am:
Karnal wrote on Jul 14th, 2025 at 7:18pm:
You always say that. Whenever he goes ahead and does it, you say oh well, that's his right as our DL.

FD is spot on. Your ethnic cleansing scheme is part of a broader ethnic cleansing scheme.

You and FD are on the exact same page on this.



What are you gonna say when Trump walks right up
to the podium and accepts his Nobel peace prize?


What are you gonna say when he approves the next cache of arms to Israel?



The rumor is that Trump is lying -
the US doesn't have 10 or 18 Patriot missile systems to sell into Europe.


No no, you were asked what you're gonna say when your DL approves the next arms shipment to Israel. When Sleepy Joe did this, you called him a mass murderer, responsible for the deaths of all those kiddies in Gaza.

What say you now?



Trump would never kill kids - he's not like Joe.

What country are you posting from Karnal?

your video above doesn't play in Australia.
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Joe molested Hunter. Hunter is damaged goods
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Bobby. wrote on Jul 16th, 2025 at 9:03am:
Karnal wrote on Jul 16th, 2025 at 1:09am:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2025 at 5:52pm:
Karnal wrote on Jul 15th, 2025 at 11:15am:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2025 at 8:14am:
Karnal wrote on Jul 14th, 2025 at 7:18pm:
You always say that. Whenever he goes ahead and does it, you say oh well, that's his right as our DL.

FD is spot on. Your ethnic cleansing scheme is part of a broader ethnic cleansing scheme.

You and FD are on the exact same page on this.



What are you gonna say when Trump walks right up
to the podium and accepts his Nobel peace prize?


What are you gonna say when he approves the next cache of arms to Israel?



The rumor is that Trump is lying -
the US doesn't have 10 or 18 Patriot missile systems to sell into Europe.


No no, you were asked what you're gonna say when your DL approves the next arms shipment to Israel. When Sleepy Joe did this, you called him a mass murderer, responsible for the deaths of all those kiddies in Gaza.

What say you now?



Trump would never kill kids - he's not like Joe.

What country are you posting from Karnal?

your video above doesn't play in Australia.


I'm posting from England, dear. You should be able to find it on YouTube.

But I'm curious. If Sleepy Joe killed kids by sending legislated arms shipments to Israel, why hasn't your DL stopped them?

He currently controls the Congress and Senate. He met with Bibi last week. Why is your DL encouraging him to kill kids and providing him with the weapons to do it?
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Jasin wrote on Jul 16th, 2025 at 9:04am:
Joe molested Hunter. Hunter is damaged goods


Which country are you posting from, JaSin?

We're wondering if you have child molestation there, you see.
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Reply #102 - Jul 17th, 2025 at 7:18am
 
Karnal wrote on Jul 17th, 2025 at 1:50am:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 16th, 2025 at 9:03am:
Karnal wrote on Jul 16th, 2025 at 1:09am:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2025 at 5:52pm:
Karnal wrote on Jul 15th, 2025 at 11:15am:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2025 at 8:14am:
Karnal wrote on Jul 14th, 2025 at 7:18pm:
You always say that. Whenever he goes ahead and does it, you say oh well, that's his right as our DL.

FD is spot on. Your ethnic cleansing scheme is part of a broader ethnic cleansing scheme.

You and FD are on the exact same page on this.



What are you gonna say when Trump walks right up
to the podium and accepts his Nobel peace prize?


What are you gonna say when he approves the next cache of arms to Israel?



The rumor is that Trump is lying -
the US doesn't have 10 or 18 Patriot missile systems to sell into Europe.


No no, you were asked what you're gonna say when your DL approves the next arms shipment to Israel. When Sleepy Joe did this, you called him a mass murderer, responsible for the deaths of all those kiddies in Gaza.

What say you now?



Trump would never kill kids - he's not like Joe.

What country are you posting from Karnal?

your video above doesn't play in Australia.


I'm posting from England, dear. You should be able to find it on YouTube.

But I'm curious. If Sleepy Joe killed kids by sending legislated arms shipments to Israel, why hasn't your DL stopped them?

He currently controls the Congress and Senate. He met with Bibi last week. Why is your DL encouraging him to kill kids and providing him with the weapons to do it?



England - what is a pommy doing on an Aussie site?
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Reply #103 - Jul 17th, 2025 at 8:04pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 17th, 2025 at 7:18am:
Karnal wrote on Jul 17th, 2025 at 1:50am:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 16th, 2025 at 9:03am:
Karnal wrote on Jul 16th, 2025 at 1:09am:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2025 at 5:52pm:
Karnal wrote on Jul 15th, 2025 at 11:15am:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 15th, 2025 at 8:14am:
Karnal wrote on Jul 14th, 2025 at 7:18pm:
You always say that. Whenever he goes ahead and does it, you say oh well, that's his right as our DL.

FD is spot on. Your ethnic cleansing scheme is part of a broader ethnic cleansing scheme.

You and FD are on the exact same page on this.



What are you gonna say when Trump walks right up
to the podium and accepts his Nobel peace prize?


What are you gonna say when he approves the next cache of arms to Israel?



The rumor is that Trump is lying -
the US doesn't have 10 or 18 Patriot missile systems to sell into Europe.


No no, you were asked what you're gonna say when your DL approves the next arms shipment to Israel. When Sleepy Joe did this, you called him a mass murderer, responsible for the deaths of all those kiddies in Gaza.

What say you now?



Trump would never kill kids - he's not like Joe.

What country are you posting from Karnal?

your video above doesn't play in Australia.


I'm posting from England, dear. You should be able to find it on YouTube.

But I'm curious. If Sleepy Joe killed kids by sending legislated arms shipments to Israel, why hasn't your DL stopped them?

He currently controls the Congress and Senate. He met with Bibi last week. Why is your DL encouraging him to kill kids and providing him with the weapons to do it?



England - what is a pommy doing on an Aussie site?


Asking JaSin which foreign country's paying his bills.

Do you want to have a go?
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Reply #104 - Jul 17th, 2025 at 8:17pm
 
Karnal wrote on Jul 17th, 2025 at 8:04pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 17th, 2025 at 7:18am:
England - what is a pommy doing on an Aussie site?


Asking JaSin which foreign country's paying his bills.

Do you want to have a go?



Lets' not divert the question - that's an old debate tactic.   Embarrassed
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I was residing in a nice bush house with a short goat trail down to the ocean for some nice spearfishing. I didn't have to pay rent, rates, electricity, gas bills, water, etc. it was a nice fringe benefit for a number of years, from work.

It's nice when others pay the bills.  Smiley
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Reply #106 - Jul 19th, 2025 at 2:18am
 
KissJasin wrote on Jul 17th, 2025 at 8:43pm:
I was residing in a nice bush house with a short goat trail down to the ocean for some nice spearfishing. I didn't have to pay rent, rates, electricity, gas bills, water, etc. it was a nice fringe benefit for a number of years, from work.

It's nice when others pay the bills.  Smiley


Here you go, Bobby. JaSin doesn't work either, dear. He stayed in a comfy institution by the sea.

Those nuns must run a rather cushy unit over in American Samoa, eh? Hunting, gathering and traditional fishing practices too.

I bet the hose down afterwards wasn't so nice.

Nurse!
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Re: They called this Jew antisemitic
Reply #107 - Jul 19th, 2025 at 4:08am
 
I live in Tahiti and I only use Imperial Leather.
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Re: They called this Jew antisemitic
Reply #108 - Jul 19th, 2025 at 9:29am
 
Jasin wrote on Jul 17th, 2025 at 8:43pm:
I was residing in a nice bush house with a short goat trail down to the ocean for some nice spearfishing.


Most people wouldn't call long bay a 'bush house' Roll Eyes
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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.
 
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Re: They called this Jew antisemitic
Reply #109 - Jul 19th, 2025 at 3:19pm
 
Did you get that from a Christmas cracker?
Your imagination is pretty far fetched, you should write a Sci Fi about how far you've travelled into the Twilight Zone with Brian.

How was Dapto for you or even Marrickville? Grin
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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