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Re: They called this Jew antisemitic
Reply #60 - Jul 13th, 2025 at 1:37pm
 
Semites are a sub-group of the Human Race... thus the term Judeophobe is more appropriate - or even Israelophobe or Zionophobe.

'antisemitism' has become far too over-used and inappropriately applied to hatred of Jews and Israel and Zionism... it is also possible to hate an Arab and thus be 'antisemitic' - so more appropriate terms are called for in modern discussion of the real issues.

Gazans/Philistines are not Semites... someone said they are of Greek origin.  Poor bustards - ambushed by a fanatical quasi-religious cult.
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Reply #61 - Jul 13th, 2025 at 1:54pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 1:07pm:
Bobby, can men be civilians also?

Or do you only want their women and children?



Yes -  but first start with women and children -
see how that goes and then progress to others who want to be safe.
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Reply #62 - Jul 13th, 2025 at 1:56pm
 
Jasin wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 12:30pm:
Those women and children would likely be wearing concealed explosives and willingly so.
Mogadishu civilians come to mind.



Yes they would all have to go through one of those airport radio imaging boxes
to allow the operators to see if they are wearing anything they shouldn't be wearing.
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Re: They called this Jew antisemitic
Reply #63 - Jul 13th, 2025 at 2:26pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 1:54pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 1:07pm:
Bobby, can men be civilians also?

Or do you only want their women and children?



Yes -  but first start with women and children -
see how that goes and then progress to others who want to be safe.


So what happens if you get all the women and children out, then go into Gaza, an find all the men, but they all insist they are not Hamas?
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Re: They called this Jew antisemitic
Reply #64 - Jul 13th, 2025 at 2:37pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 2:26pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 1:54pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 1:07pm:
Bobby, can men be civilians also?

Or do you only want their women and children?



Yes -  but first start with women and children -
see how that goes and then progress to others who want to be safe.


So what happens if you get all the women and children out, then go into Gaza, an find all the men, but they all insist they are not Hamas?



Well if they surrender then that's OK.

Time for peace.
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Re: They called this Jew antisemitic
Reply #65 - Jul 13th, 2025 at 3:06pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 2:37pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 2:26pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 1:54pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 1:07pm:
Bobby, can men be civilians also?

Or do you only want their women and children?



Yes -  but first start with women and children -
see how that goes and then progress to others who want to be safe.


So what happens if you get all the women and children out, then go into Gaza, an find all the men, but they all insist they are not Hamas?



Well if they surrender then that's OK.

Time for peace.


So they surrender, and as soon as all the women and children come back, they start lobbing rockets again. What then?
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Reply #66 - Jul 13th, 2025 at 3:09pm
 
There is no way out of this Bobby.
The UN failed, the Left failed and both blame Israel for making them look like failures.
Palestine must go and other Arab nations hope so.
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Re: They called this Jew antisemitic
Reply #67 - Jul 13th, 2025 at 3:20pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 3:06pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 2:37pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 2:26pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 1:54pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 1:07pm:
Bobby, can men be civilians also?

Or do you only want their women and children?



Yes -  but first start with women and children -
see how that goes and then progress to others who want to be safe.


So what happens if you get all the women and children out, then go into Gaza, an find all the men, but they all insist they are not Hamas?



Well if they surrender then that's OK.

Time for peace.


So they surrender, and as soon as all the women and children come back,
they start lobbing rockets again. What then?



I dunno - Trump wants to get them out altogether -
he wants to build Trump towers, a casino and a golf course there.
The problem is that no one wants them in their country
as they are considered trouble makers.
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Re: They called this Jew antisemitic
Reply #68 - Jul 13th, 2025 at 11:31pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 12th, 2025 at 3:53pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 12th, 2025 at 3:38pm:
Who should do this Bobby? Once you start sorting out the details, you quickly realise that "getting the civilians out before the military action starts" soon turns into a far bigger military action with even more loss of life.

If you give 100 free busses to Palestinian civilians, you will get 100 Hamas militants driving a bus full of explosives or armed militants back over the border.


You're not giving buses to Palestinians -
they are just passengers being taken to a proposed refugee camp in the Negev desert
until the war has finished.


Alas, Bobby, I think what FD's trying to tell you is you're missing the point.

The war won't be finished until the IDF has killed every last Gazan. After that, Israel plans to clean up the West Bank. As we speak, they're bulldozing Palestinian homes and expanding Israeli settlements there. Bibi has three and a half years left of your DL and he's going to make the most of it. By the time Bibi's done, the state of Israel will be cleansed of all Palestinians from the river to the sea.

FD's right. While you quibble over bus timetabling and staffing issues, the IDF has a job to do. They're hardly going to put a pause on their genocide to let a few women and children through, now are they?

Israel has nothing to hide. Finance minister Bezalel Smotrich has described the government's plan in media briefings: to destroy Gaza entirely.

They also have plans to take southern Lebanon. They're currently using drones to target apartment blocks in Beirut, where Israel has full air cover. When the time's right, they'll invite the US in to launch a full scale invasion of Iran.

That's a little more complicated. Bibi wants to act now. DL asked him to wait a little more until the US mid-terms. They discussed this in the Oval Office just this week. There, for the first time, the US hosted an indicted war criminal on a full state visit. In return, Bibi handed your DL a copy of his letter nominating the big fella for a Nobel peace prize.

As you do, no?

It's all working exactly as planned. The big fella used his first state visit as prez to discuss the investment with Saudi Arabia and Qatar. To stave off any perceptions of a conflict of interest, Eric and Don Junior were there on behalf of the Trump Org. Jared Kushner has plans for a chain of five star resorts along the Gaza strip. The big fella suggested using the US army as a demolition crew, which got a big thumbs up from Pete Hegseth. Somebody even got to work on the marketing, posting an AI video of the big fella and Elon sipping on cocktails and getting a tan on what they're calling the Gaza Riviera.

Apart from Elon being in, it's all in accordance. And no, none of this is satire, dear, it's reality. You've gotta have a dream, no?

So stop all this silly micro-managing and let them get on with the job. FD's right. The only way you're going to fix this mess is a Final Solution to the Palestinian problem. After Bibi's finished them off, DL can invade Iran, topple the Mullahs, win the mid-terms and save his job. His Nobel peace prize will be the icing on the cake.

Mission accomplished, innit.
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Re: They called this Jew antisemitic
Reply #69 - Jul 13th, 2025 at 11:56pm
 
Karnal wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 11:31pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 12th, 2025 at 3:53pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 12th, 2025 at 3:38pm:
Who should do this Bobby? Once you start sorting out the details, you quickly realise that "getting the civilians out before the military action starts" soon turns into a far bigger military action with even more loss of life.

If you give 100 free busses to Palestinian civilians, you will get 100 Hamas militants driving a bus full of explosives or armed militants back over the border.


You're not giving buses to Palestinians -
they are just passengers being taken to a proposed refugee camp in the Negev desert
until the war has finished.


Alas, Bobby, I think what FD's trying to tell you is you're missing the point.

The war won't be finished until the IDF has killed every last Gazan. After that, Israel plans to clean up the West Bank. As we speak, they're bulldozing Palestinian homes and expanding Israeli settlements there. Bibi has three and a half years left of your DL and he's going to make the most of it. By the time Bibi's done, the state of Israel will be cleansed of all Palestinians from the river to the sea.

FD's right. While you quibble over bus timetabling and staffing issues, the IDF has a job to do. They're hardly going to put a pause on their genocide to let a few women and children through, now are they?

Israel has nothing to hide. Finance minister Bezalel Smotrich has described the government's plan in media briefings: to destroy Gaza entirely.

They also have plans to take southern Lebanon. They're currently using drones to target apartment blocks in Beirut, where Israel has full air cover. When the time's right, they'll invite the US in to launch a full scale invasion of Iran.

That's a little more complicated. Bibi wants to act now. DL asked him to wait a little more until the US mid-terms. They discussed this in the Oval Office just this week. There, for the first time, the US hosted an indicted war criminal on a full state visit. In return, Bibi handed your DL a copy of his letter nominating the big fella for a Nobel peace prize.

As you do, no?

It's all working exactly as planned. The big fella used his first state visit as prez to discuss the investment with Saudi Arabia and Qatar. To stave off any perceptions of a conflict of interest, Eric and Don Junior were there on behalf of the Trump Org. Jared Kushner has plans for a chain of five star resorts along the Gaza strip. The big fella suggested using the US army as a demolition crew, which got a big thumbs up from Pete Hegseth. Somebody even got to work on the marketing, posting an AI video of the big fella and Elon sipping on cocktails and getting a tan on what they're calling the Gaza Riviera.

Apart from Elon being in, it's all in accordance. And no, none of this is satire, dear, it's reality. You've gotta have a dream, no?

So stop all this silly micro-managing and let them get on with the job. FD's right. The only way you're going to fix this mess is a Final Solution to the Palestinian problem. After Bibi's finished them off, DL can invade Iran, topple the Mullahs, win the mid-terms and save his job. His Nobel peace prize will be the icing on the cake.

Mission accomplished, innit.



dear Karnal,
many blessings,
you're a very cynical man.

forgiven

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Re: They called this Jew antisemitic
Reply #70 - Jul 14th, 2025 at 9:56am
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 3:20pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 3:06pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 2:37pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 2:26pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 1:54pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 1:07pm:
Bobby, can men be civilians also?

Or do you only want their women and children?



Yes -  but first start with women and children -
see how that goes and then progress to others who want to be safe.


So what happens if you get all the women and children out, then go into Gaza, an find all the men, but they all insist they are not Hamas?



Well if they surrender then that's OK.

Time for peace.


So they surrender, and as soon as all the women and children come back,
they start lobbing rockets again. What then?



I dunno - Trump wants to get them out altogether -
he wants to build Trump towers, a casino and a golf course there.
The problem is that no one wants them in their country
as they are considered trouble makers.


Better not mention that Bobby. People might think your ethnic cleansing scheme is part of a broader ethnic cleansing scheme.
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Re: They called this Jew antisemitic
Reply #71 - Jul 14th, 2025 at 10:10am
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 11:56pm:
Karnal wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 11:31pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 12th, 2025 at 3:53pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 12th, 2025 at 3:38pm:
Who should do this Bobby? Once you start sorting out the details, you quickly realise that "getting the civilians out before the military action starts" soon turns into a far bigger military action with even more loss of life.

If you give 100 free busses to Palestinian civilians, you will get 100 Hamas militants driving a bus full of explosives or armed militants back over the border.


You're not giving buses to Palestinians -
they are just passengers being taken to a proposed refugee camp in the Negev desert
until the war has finished.


Alas, Bobby, I think what FD's trying to tell you is you're missing the point.

The war won't be finished until the IDF has killed every last Gazan. After that, Israel plans to clean up the West Bank. As we speak, they're bulldozing Palestinian homes and expanding Israeli settlements there. Bibi has three and a half years left of your DL and he's going to make the most of it. By the time Bibi's done, the state of Israel will be cleansed of all Palestinians from the river to the sea.

FD's right. While you quibble over bus timetabling and staffing issues, the IDF has a job to do. They're hardly going to put a pause on their genocide to let a few women and children through, now are they?

Israel has nothing to hide. Finance minister Bezalel Smotrich has described the government's plan in media briefings: to destroy Gaza entirely.

They also have plans to take southern Lebanon. They're currently using drones to target apartment blocks in Beirut, where Israel has full air cover. When the time's right, they'll invite the US in to launch a full scale invasion of Iran.

That's a little more complicated. Bibi wants to act now. DL asked him to wait a little more until the US mid-terms. They discussed this in the Oval Office just this week. There, for the first time, the US hosted an indicted war criminal on a full state visit. In return, Bibi handed your DL a copy of his letter nominating the big fella for a Nobel peace prize.

As you do, no?

It's all working exactly as planned. The big fella used his first state visit as prez to discuss the investment with Saudi Arabia and Qatar. To stave off any perceptions of a conflict of interest, Eric and Don Junior were there on behalf of the Trump Org. Jared Kushner has plans for a chain of five star resorts along the Gaza strip. The big fella suggested using the US army as a demolition crew, which got a big thumbs up from Pete Hegseth. Somebody even got to work on the marketing, posting an AI video of the big fella and Elon sipping on cocktails and getting a tan on what they're calling the Gaza Riviera.

Apart from Elon being in, it's all in accordance. And no, none of this is satire, dear, it's reality. You've gotta have a dream, no?

So stop all this silly micro-managing and let them get on with the job. FD's right. The only way you're going to fix this mess is a Final Solution to the Palestinian problem. After Bibi's finished them off, DL can invade Iran, topple the Mullahs, win the mid-terms and save his job. His Nobel peace prize will be the icing on the cake.

Mission accomplished, innit.



dear Karnal,
many blessings,
you're a very cynical man.

forgiven

namaste


Just reporting the facts, Bobby. Everything in the above post is evidenced, verified and in accordance.

FD knows it, and you do too. Your only difference of opinion is the option of saving a handful of lives.

FD wants full annihilation, you want to let them suffer a little longer.

There is an alternative, of course, but none of you will consider it.
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Re: They called this Jew antisemitic
Reply #72 - Jul 14th, 2025 at 10:17am
 
freediver wrote on Jul 14th, 2025 at 9:56am:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 3:20pm:
I dunno - Trump wants to get them out altogether -
he wants to build Trump towers, a casino and a golf course there.
The problem is that no one wants them in their country
as they are considered trouble makers.


Better not mention that Bobby. People might think your ethnic cleansing scheme is part of a broader ethnic cleansing scheme.



But my idea is only temporary so that Israel can get rid of Hamas
without killing any more women and children.

Trump's dreams are not to be taken seriously - he was only joking.   Embarrassed
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Reply #73 - Jul 14th, 2025 at 10:54am
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 14th, 2025 at 10:17am:
freediver wrote on Jul 14th, 2025 at 9:56am:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 3:20pm:
I dunno - Trump wants to get them out altogether -
he wants to build Trump towers, a casino and a golf course there.
The problem is that no one wants them in their country
as they are considered trouble makers.


Better not mention that Bobby. People might think your ethnic cleansing scheme is part of a broader ethnic cleansing scheme.



But my idea is only temporary so that Israel can get rid of Hamas
without killing any more women and children.

Trump's dreams are not to be taken seriously - he was only joking.   Embarrassed


How would it get rid of Hamas? Would you have them kill every adult male in the Gaza strip?
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Re: They called this Jew antisemitic
Reply #74 - Jul 14th, 2025 at 11:04am
 
freediver wrote on Jul 14th, 2025 at 10:54am:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 14th, 2025 at 10:17am:
freediver wrote on Jul 14th, 2025 at 9:56am:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 13th, 2025 at 3:20pm:
I dunno - Trump wants to get them out altogether -
he wants to build Trump towers, a casino and a golf course there.
The problem is that no one wants them in their country
as they are considered trouble makers.


Better not mention that Bobby. People might think your ethnic cleansing scheme is part of a broader ethnic cleansing scheme.



But my idea is only temporary so that Israel can get rid of Hamas
without killing any more women and children.

Trump's dreams are not to be taken seriously - he was only joking.   Embarrassed


How would it get rid of Hamas? Would you have them kill every adult male in the Gaza strip?



Dunno - in any case my idea is not gunna happen.


latest:


https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-said-to-warn-against-gaza-humanitarian-city-ex...


IDF said to warn against Gaza ‘humanitarian city’; ex-PM brands it ‘concentration camp’


Military reportedly tells ministers plan for large civilian zone may harm hostage talks,
take months to build; opposition chief and international officials also castigate proposal


By Nava Freiberg, Follow
ToI Staff and AFP
Today, 2:46 am


A proposed plan to establish a “humanitarian city” in southern Gaza, in which at least 600,000 Palestinians would be confined, continued to receive backlash from within Israel and abroad on Sunday, with some, including former prime minister Ehud Olmert, alleging that it resembled the Nazi concentration camps built during World War II.
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