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Reply #60 - Jul 11^th, 2025 at 11:15am

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 8:03am:

... you can't stomach a well-documented fact, that undocumented immigrants in the US commit fewer crimes than native-born citizens ...

That's the fact that really triggers Frannie.

He knows it's an indisputable fact, and it eats him up.

It doesn't fit in well with his extreme racist views and irrational hatred of everyone/everything that's different.

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Re: undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit
Reply #61 - Jul 11^th, 2025 at 1:39pm

Frank wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 11:09am:

“Trump was right” on border policy, former Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry told the BBC. “The problem is we [Democrats] should have been right.”

You left out the bit, same as Breitbart, where Kerry admitted that Republicans had obstructed potential bipartisan solutions by pressuring lawmakers not to pass immigration reform bills under Biden. This perspective aligns with the Democratic narrative that partisan gridlock, rather than policy choices alone, contributed to the challenges faced at the border.

But again, that doesn't align with what you want to believe.

What name will you call me this time?

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Reply #62 - Jul 11^th, 2025 at 3:02pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 8:03am:

... you can't stomach a well-documented fact, that undocumented immigrants in the US commit fewer crimes than native-born citizens ...

Black Americans are doing the heavy lifting, statistically speaking, when it comes to crime.
It would be a similar skewering 'thanks' to Aborigines and their heavy lifting in crime stats.

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Reply #63 - Jul 11^th, 2025 at 3:05pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 1:39pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 11:09am:

“Trump was right” on border policy, former Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry told the BBC. “The problem is we [Democrats] should have been right.”

You left out the bit, same as Breitbart, where Kerry admitted that Republicans had obstructed potential bipartisan solutions by pressuring lawmakers not to pass immigration reform bills under Biden. This perspective aligns with the Democratic narrative that partisan gridlock, rather than policy choices alone, contributed to the challenges faced at the border.

But again, that doesn't align with what you want to believe.

What name will you call me this time?

The Dems wouldn't have needed Republican support to prevent illegals flooding through the borders.

Trump doesn't need Dem support to stem the flow and to deport illegals. He does it despite concerted efforts by two bit provincial judges and a chorus of Dems.

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Re: undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit
Reply #64 - Jul 11^th, 2025 at 3:11pm

Frank wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 3:02pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 8:03am:

... you can't stomach a well-documented fact, that undocumented immigrants in the US commit fewer crimes than native-born citizens ...

Black Americans are doing the heavy lifting, statistically speaking, when it comes to crime.
It would be a similar skewering 'thanks' to Aborigines and their heavy lifting in crime stats.

Do you not consider them to be real Americans?

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Reply #65 - Jul 11^th, 2025 at 3:16pm

Frank wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 3:05pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 1:39pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 11:09am:

“Trump was right” on border policy, former Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry told the BBC. “The problem is we [Democrats] should have been right.”

You left out the bit, same as Breitbart, where Kerry admitted that Republicans had obstructed potential bipartisan solutions by pressuring lawmakers not to pass immigration reform bills under Biden. This perspective aligns with the Democratic narrative that partisan gridlock, rather than policy choices alone, contributed to the challenges faced at the border.

But again, that doesn't align with what you want to believe.

What name will you call me this time?

The Dems wouldn't have needed Republican support to prevent illegals flooding through the borders.

Trump doesn't need Dem support to stem the flow and to deport illegals. He does it despite concerted efforts by two bit provincial judges and a chorus of Dems.

See if you can change the subject again, Frannie.

Meanwhile:

"The American Immigration Council compared crime data to demographic data from 1980 to 2022, the most recent data available. The data showed that as the immigrant share of the population grew, the crime rate declined."

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Reply #66 - Jul 11^th, 2025 at 3:22pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 3:11pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 3:02pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 8:03am:

... you can't stomach a well-documented fact, that undocumented immigrants in the US commit fewer crimes than native-born citizens ...

Black Americans are doing the heavy lifting, statistically speaking, when it comes to crime.
It would be a similar skewering 'thanks' to Aborigines and their heavy lifting in crime stats.

Do you not consider them to be real Americans?

They are real. They are just letting down their side out of all proportion.

Aborigines are Australians but they too are disproportionately criminal.

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Re: undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit
Reply #67 - Jul 11^th, 2025 at 4:59pm

Frank wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 3:22pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 3:11pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 3:02pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 8:03am:

... you can't stomach a well-documented fact, that undocumented immigrants in the US commit fewer crimes than native-born citizens ...

Black Americans are doing the heavy lifting, statistically speaking, when it comes to crime.
It would be a similar skewering 'thanks' to Aborigines and their heavy lifting in crime stats.

Do you not consider them to be real Americans?

They are real. They are just letting down their side out of all proportion.

Aborigines are Australians but they too are disproportionately criminal.

So, rather than accepting that your world view is not supported by the facts, you shift the goal posts to punch down on black Americans and Indigenous Australians?

Cope harder Frank...

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Re: undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit
Reply #68 - Jul 11^th, 2025 at 6:06pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 4:59pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 3:22pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 3:11pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 3:02pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 8:03am:

... you can't stomach a well-documented fact, that undocumented immigrants in the US commit fewer crimes than native-born citizens ...

Black Americans are doing the heavy lifting, statistically speaking, when it comes to crime.
It would be a similar skewering 'thanks' to Aborigines and their heavy lifting in crime stats.

Do you not consider them to be real Americans?

They are real. They are just letting down their side out of all proportion.

Aborigines are Australians but they too are disproportionately criminal.

So, rather than accepting that your world view is not supported by the facts, you shift the goal posts to punch down on black Americans and Indigenous Australians?

Cope harder Frank...

In what way is it not true that blacks in America and here skewer crime stats way out of proportion to their number?

Illegal immigrant law breaking is higher in the US compared to non-black Americans idpf you look at proportions.

Black law breaking is higher than any other, proportionally. It's not wacist to notice and to say it. I think it's the same here.

Ironically, it's probably largely due to white do-gooders like you and Bbwiyawn cultivating their noble savages difference. Toxic way to hell, to coin a phrase. And you bastards are hell bent in maintaining them in abject criminality.

But they are not different in the modern world. They need to do the same thing as the Chinese, Indians, Danes, local whites do - go to school, look after the kiddies, stay married, work and be law abiding, participate in running your community, state country.

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Re: undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit
Reply #69 - Jul 11^th, 2025 at 6:27pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 4:59pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 3:22pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 3:11pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 3:02pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 8:03am:

... you can't stomach a well-documented fact, that undocumented immigrants in the US commit fewer crimes than native-born citizens ...

Black Americans are doing the heavy lifting, statistically speaking, when it comes to crime.
It would be a similar skewering 'thanks' to Aborigines and their heavy lifting in crime stats.

Do you not consider them to be real Americans?

They are real. They are just letting down their side out of all proportion.

Aborigines are Australians but they too are disproportionately criminal.

So, rather than accepting that your world view is not supported by the facts, you shift the goal posts to punch down on black Americans and Indigenous Australians?

Boom!

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Re: undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit
Reply #70 - Jul 11^th, 2025 at 8:16pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 4:59pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 3:22pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 3:11pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 3:02pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 8:03am:

... you can't stomach a well-documented fact, that undocumented immigrants in the US commit fewer crimes than native-born citizens ...

Black Americans are doing the heavy lifting, statistically speaking, when it comes to crime.
It would be a similar skewering 'thanks' to Aborigines and their heavy lifting in crime stats.

Do you not consider them to be real Americans?

They are real. They are just letting down their side out of all proportion.

Aborigines are Australians but they too are disproportionately criminal.

So, rather than accepting that your world view is not supported by the facts, you shift the goal posts to punch down on black Americans and Indigenous Australians?

Cope harder Frank...

So you are the guardian and milk monitor of 'goal posts'? Everything must be discussed within the tendentious, politically motivated parameters that you set?

That sounds to me like a typical lefty ruse - set the tendentious, skewered parameters and you will have your thumb on the scale for all subsequent discussions.

So no. Not going along with your 'goal posts'. Shove up your yer.

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Re: undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit
Reply #71 - Jul 15^th, 2025 at 7:01am

Frank wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 8:16pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 4:59pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 3:22pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 3:11pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 3:02pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 8:03am:

... you can't stomach a well-documented fact, that undocumented immigrants in the US commit fewer crimes than native-born citizens ...

Black Americans are doing the heavy lifting, statistically speaking, when it comes to crime.
It would be a similar skewering 'thanks' to Aborigines and their heavy lifting in crime stats.

Do you not consider them to be real Americans?

They are real. They are just letting down their side out of all proportion.

Aborigines are Australians but they too are disproportionately criminal.

So, rather than accepting that your world view is not supported by the facts, you shift the goal posts to punch down on black Americans and Indigenous Australians?

Cope harder Frank...

So you are the guardian and milk monitor of 'goal posts'? Everything must be discussed within the tendentious, politically motivated parameters that you set?

That sounds to me like a typical lefty ruse - set the tendentious, skewered parameters and you will have your thumb on the scale for all subsequent discussions.

So no. Not going along with your 'goal posts'. Shove up your yer.

Cry some more Frank.

When someone responds to the well-established fact that immigrants in the US commit fewer crimes than native-born citizens with "well that's because of the blacks," they're not offering a counterargument, they're confessing.

Confessing that this was never about border security or law and order. It was never about visas or overstays. It was always about preserving a racial hierarchy, and they've just blurted it out in public.

That line of reasoning doesn't just miss the point, it exposes it. It's not a rebuttal, it's a Freudian slip soaked in white supremacy.

At least you're being honest for once.

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