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Re: undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit
Reply #45 - Jul 10th, 2025 at 6:09pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 5:24pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 4:43pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 4:18pm:
All this back and forth, yet it doesn't change the crime statistics, just triggered bigots looking for loopholes to justify their hate.

So, the usual.

What do you like about illegal immigration?


It triggers you and other idiots like you, that's got to be a plus.



I think you got it exactly back to front, as has Sad teapot and the rest of you do all the time - you mongs go completely dotty if any objection to illegal immigration or large scale and/or unassimilating legal immigration is voiced.


You hate your own people and your own culture, your own traditions and history and can't wait to be replaced by what you imagine to be vibrant, exotic strangers.


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Re: undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit
Reply #46 - Jul 10th, 2025 at 7:04pm
 
Frank wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 6:09pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 5:24pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 4:43pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 4:18pm:
All this back and forth, yet it doesn't change the crime statistics, just triggered bigots looking for loopholes to justify their hate.

So, the usual.

What do you like about illegal immigration?


It triggers you and other idiots like you, that's got to be a plus.



I think you got it exactly back to front, as has Sad teapot and the rest of you do all the time - you mongs go completely dotty if any objection to illegal immigration or large scale and/or unassimilating legal immigration is voiced.


You hate your own people and your own culture, your own traditions and history and can't wait to be replaced by what you imagine to be vibrant, exotic strangers.




Nobody here supports illegal immigration.

If you have proof to the contrary, now would be the time to post it.

Over to you, Frannie ...

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Re: undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit
Reply #47 - Jul 10th, 2025 at 7:29pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 7:04pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 6:09pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 5:24pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 4:43pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 4:18pm:
All this back and forth, yet it doesn't change the crime statistics, just triggered bigots looking for loopholes to justify their hate.

So, the usual.

What do you like about illegal immigration?


It triggers you and other idiots like you, that's got to be a plus.



I think you got it exactly back to front, as has Sad teapot and the rest of you do all the time - you mongs go completely dotty if any objection to illegal immigration or large scale and/or unassimilating legal immigration is voiced.


You hate your own people and your own culture, your own traditions and history and can't wait to be replaced by what you imagine to be vibrant, exotic strangers.




Nobody here supports illegal immigration.

If you have proof to the contrary, now would be the time to post it.

Over to you, Frannie ...



And everybody here supports legal immigration, If you have proof to the contrary, now would be the time to post it.
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Re: undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit
Reply #48 - Jul 10th, 2025 at 7:33pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 7:04pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 6:09pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 5:24pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 4:43pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 4:18pm:
All this back and forth, yet it doesn't change the crime statistics, just triggered bigots looking for loopholes to justify their hate.

So, the usual.

What do you like about illegal immigration?


It triggers you and other idiots like you, that's got to be a plus.



I think you got it exactly back to front, as has Sad teapot and the rest of you do all the time - you mongs go completely dotty if any objection to illegal immigration or large scale and/or unassimilating legal immigration is voiced.


You hate your own people and your own culture, your own traditions and history and can't wait to be replaced by what you imagine to be vibrant, exotic strangers.




Nobody here supports illegal immigration.

If you have proof to the contrary, now would be the time to post it.

Over to you, Frannie ...



Oh, he's gone.
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Re: undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit
Reply #49 - Jul 10th, 2025 at 9:21pm
 
Frank wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 6:09pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 5:24pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 4:43pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 4:18pm:
All this back and forth, yet it doesn't change the crime statistics, just triggered bigots looking for loopholes to justify their hate.

So, the usual.

What do you like about illegal immigration?


It triggers you and other idiots like you, that's got to be a plus.



I think you got it exactly back to front, as has Sad teapot and the rest of you do all the time - you mongs go completely dotty if any objection to illegal immigration or large scale and/or unassimilating legal immigration is voiced.


You hate your own people and your own culture, your own traditions and history and can't wait to be replaced by what you imagine to be vibrant, exotic strangers.




Says the same old boy who flew here to inform us all we're despicable Paki Bastards, Calabrian Dagos and Slovenian Tjurds.

Turns out he's into our culture, traditions and history, eh? Whoever would have guessed?

Now he's established that, he can move back onto demolishing our culture, history and traditions.

As you do, no?
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Re: undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit
Reply #50 - Jul 10th, 2025 at 9:34pm
 
Karnal wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 9:21pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 6:09pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 5:24pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 4:43pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 4:18pm:
All this back and forth, yet it doesn't change the crime statistics, just triggered bigots looking for loopholes to justify their hate.

So, the usual.

What do you like about illegal immigration?


It triggers you and other idiots like you, that's got to be a plus.



I think you got it exactly back to front, as has Sad teapot and the rest of you do all the time - you mongs go completely dotty if any objection to illegal immigration or large scale and/or unassimilating legal immigration is voiced.


You hate your own people and your own culture, your own traditions and history and can't wait to be replaced by what you imagine to be vibrant, exotic strangers.




Says the same old boy who flew here to inform us all we're despicable Paki Bastards, Calabrian Dagos and Slovenian Tjurds.

Turns out he's into our culture, traditions and history, eh? Whoever would have guessed?

Now he's established that, he can move back onto demolishing our culture, history and traditions.

As you do, no?



Go back to Pakiland, wee Hamza Yusuf.
https://au.video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?fr=mcafee&p=hamza+yusuf+white&typ...
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Re: undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit
Reply #51 - Jul 10th, 2025 at 9:39pm
 
Frank wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 9:34pm:
Karnal wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 9:21pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 6:09pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 5:24pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 4:43pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 4:18pm:
All this back and forth, yet it doesn't change the crime statistics, just triggered bigots looking for loopholes to justify their hate.

So, the usual.

What do you like about illegal immigration?


It triggers you and other idiots like you, that's got to be a plus.



I think you got it exactly back to front, as has Sad teapot and the rest of you do all the time - you mongs go completely dotty if any objection to illegal immigration or large scale and/or unassimilating legal immigration is voiced.


You hate your own people and your own culture, your own traditions and history and can't wait to be replaced by what you imagine to be vibrant, exotic strangers.




Says the same old boy who flew here to inform us all we're despicable Paki Bastards, Calabrian Dagos and Slovenian Tjurds.

Turns out he's into our culture, traditions and history, eh? Whoever would have guessed?

Now he's established that, he can move back onto demolishing our culture, history and traditions.

As you do, no?



Go back to Pakiland, wee Hamza Yusuf.
https://au.video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?fr=mcafee&p=hamza+yusuf+white&typ...


As you can see, the old boy's a devout libera... Sorry, a lib...

Oh, you know what I mean. You should hear him trying to get his mouth around conservative.
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Re: undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit
Reply #52 - Jul 10th, 2025 at 9:42pm
 
Karnal wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 9:39pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 9:34pm:
Karnal wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 9:21pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 6:09pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 5:24pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 4:43pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 4:18pm:
All this back and forth, yet it doesn't change the crime statistics, just triggered bigots looking for loopholes to justify their hate.

So, the usual.

What do you like about illegal immigration?


It triggers you and other idiots like you, that's got to be a plus.



I think you got it exactly back to front, as has Sad teapot and the rest of you do all the time - you mongs go completely dotty if any objection to illegal immigration or large scale and/or unassimilating legal immigration is voiced.


You hate your own people and your own culture, your own traditions and history and can't wait to be replaced by what you imagine to be vibrant, exotic strangers.




Says the same old boy who flew here to inform us all we're despicable Paki Bastards, Calabrian Dagos and Slovenian Tjurds.

Turns out he's into our culture, traditions and history, eh? Whoever would have guessed?

Now he's established that, he can move back onto demolishing our culture, history and traditions.

As you do, no?



Go back to Pakiland, wee Hamza Yusuf.
https://au.video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?fr=mcafee&p=hamza+yusuf+white&typ...


As you can see, the old boy's a devout libera... Sorry, a lib...

Oh, you know what I mean. You should hear him trying to get his mouth around conservative.



When did you metamorphosed into a wee Paki? 70s? 60s? Sydney Push?

What IS the difference between your beliefs and Hamza Yusuf's?  Nothing. You are a wee Paki. He's a wee Paki.

Scotland today, innit.  We are all pakis now - or else.

In wee Hamza's Scotland "white" is the new niqqer.






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Re: undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit
Reply #53 - Jul 10th, 2025 at 9:49pm
 
Frank wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 9:42pm:
Karnal wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 9:39pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 9:34pm:
Karnal wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 9:21pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 6:09pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 5:24pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 4:43pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 4:18pm:
All this back and forth, yet it doesn't change the crime statistics, just triggered bigots looking for loopholes to justify their hate.

So, the usual.

What do you like about illegal immigration?


It triggers you and other idiots like you, that's got to be a plus.



I think you got it exactly back to front, as has Sad teapot and the rest of you do all the time - you mongs go completely dotty if any objection to illegal immigration or large scale and/or unassimilating legal immigration is voiced.


You hate your own people and your own culture, your own traditions and history and can't wait to be replaced by what you imagine to be vibrant, exotic strangers.




Says the same old boy who flew here to inform us all we're despicable Paki Bastards, Calabrian Dagos and Slovenian Tjurds.

Turns out he's into our culture, traditions and history, eh? Whoever would have guessed?

Now he's established that, he can move back onto demolishing our culture, history and traditions.

As you do, no?



Go back to Pakiland, wee Hamza Yusuf.
https://au.video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?fr=mcafee&p=hamza+yusuf+white&typ...


As you can see, the old boy's a devout libera... Sorry, a lib...

Oh, you know what I mean. You should hear him trying to get his mouth around conservative.



When did yiou metamorphosed into a wee Paki?

What IS the difference between your beliefs and Hamza Yusuf's?

Nothing. You are a wee Paki. He's a wee Paki.

Scotland today, innit.





Not at all, dear boy, I'm an Aussie. We grew here, you flew here.

We're Superior to you in every possible way. Culture, traditions, history.

You're so desperate to fit in, you joined a foreign cult, you poor old thing.

How does it feeeeel?



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Re: undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit
Reply #54 - Jul 10th, 2025 at 10:23pm
 
Karnal wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 9:49pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 9:42pm:
Karnal wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 9:39pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 9:34pm:
Karnal wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 9:21pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 6:09pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 5:24pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 4:43pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 4:18pm:
All this back and forth, yet it doesn't change the crime statistics, just triggered bigots looking for loopholes to justify their hate.

So, the usual.

What do you like about illegal immigration?


It triggers you and other idiots like you, that's got to be a plus.



I think you got it exactly back to front, as has Sad teapot and the rest of you do all the time - you mongs go completely dotty if any objection to illegal immigration or large scale and/or unassimilating legal immigration is voiced.


You hate your own people and your own culture, your own traditions and history and can't wait to be replaced by what you imagine to be vibrant, exotic strangers.




Says the same old boy who flew here to inform us all we're despicable Paki Bastards, Calabrian Dagos and Slovenian Tjurds.

Turns out he's into our culture, traditions and history, eh? Whoever would have guessed?

Now he's established that, he can move back onto demolishing our culture, history and traditions.

As you do, no?



Go back to Pakiland, wee Hamza Yusuf.
https://au.video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?fr=mcafee&p=hamza+yusuf+white&typ...


As you can see, the old boy's a devout libera... Sorry, a lib...

Oh, you know what I mean. You should hear him trying to get his mouth around conservative.



When did yiou metamorphosed into a wee Paki?

What IS the difference between your beliefs and Hamza Yusuf's?

Nothing. You are a wee Paki. He's a wee Paki.

Scotland today, innit.





Not at all, dear boy, I'm an Aussie. We grew here, you flew here.

We're Superior to you in every possible way. Culture, traditions, history.

You're so desperate to fit in, you joined a foreign cult, you poor old thing.

How does it feeeeel?




You are not an Aussie. You are a wee Hamza Yusuf.
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Re: undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit
Reply #55 - Jul 10th, 2025 at 10:51pm
 
Frank wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 10:23pm:
Karnal wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 9:49pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 9:42pm:
Karnal wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 9:39pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 9:34pm:
Karnal wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 9:21pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 6:09pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 5:24pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 4:43pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 4:18pm:
All this back and forth, yet it doesn't change the crime statistics, just triggered bigots looking for loopholes to justify their hate.

So, the usual.

What do you like about illegal immigration?


It triggers you and other idiots like you, that's got to be a plus.



I think you got it exactly back to front, as has Sad teapot and the rest of you do all the time - you mongs go completely dotty if any objection to illegal immigration or large scale and/or unassimilating legal immigration is voiced.


You hate your own people and your own culture, your own traditions and history and can't wait to be replaced by what you imagine to be vibrant, exotic strangers.




Says the same old boy who flew here to inform us all we're despicable Paki Bastards, Calabrian Dagos and Slovenian Tjurds.

Turns out he's into our culture, traditions and history, eh? Whoever would have guessed?

Now he's established that, he can move back onto demolishing our culture, history and traditions.

As you do, no?



Go back to Pakiland, wee Hamza Yusuf.
https://au.video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?fr=mcafee&p=hamza+yusuf+white&typ...


As you can see, the old boy's a devout libera... Sorry, a lib...

Oh, you know what I mean. You should hear him trying to get his mouth around conservative.



When did yiou metamorphosed into a wee Paki?

What IS the difference between your beliefs and Hamza Yusuf's?

Nothing. You are a wee Paki. He's a wee Paki.

Scotland today, innit.





Not at all, dear boy, I'm an Aussie. We grew here, you flew here.

We're Superior to you in every possible way. Culture, traditions, history.

You're so desperate to fit in, you joined a foreign cult, you poor old thing.

How does it feeeeel?




You are not an Aussie. You are a wee Hamza Yusuf.


Born and bred, dear boy. You see, if you can't even acknowledge the nationality of those you deign to share a country with, how can you ever - ahem - assimilate?

You can't and you won't. You clearly hate the culture, traditions and history of the country you flew to, and that's okay. Just confess.

Are you, or have you ever been, a naughty old wacist?

It's time to say.
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Re: undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit
Reply #56 - Jul 11th, 2025 at 7:53am
 
Frank wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 4:43pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 4:18pm:
All this back and forth, yet it doesn't change the crime statistics, just triggered bigots looking for loopholes to justify their hate.

So, the usual.

What do you like about illegal immigration?


Who said I like it?  The claim is that the undocumented people in America commit fewer crimes, as revealed by many sources now under review because the claim doesn't match Trump's rhetoric.

Those facts and those stats don't care about my feelings.

You, like Grap and the rest of the usual suspects, are trying to distract and deflect away from the point of the thread because the facts don't align with your feelings.
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Re: undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit
Reply #57 - Jul 11th, 2025 at 8:03am
 
Frank wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 10:23pm:
Karnal wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 9:49pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 9:42pm:
Karnal wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 9:39pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 9:34pm:
Karnal wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 9:21pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 6:09pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 5:24pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 4:43pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 4:18pm:
All this back and forth, yet it doesn't change the crime statistics, just triggered bigots looking for loopholes to justify their hate.

So, the usual.

What do you like about illegal immigration?


It triggers you and other idiots like you, that's got to be a plus.



I think you got it exactly back to front, as has Sad teapot and the rest of you do all the time - you mongs go completely dotty if any objection to illegal immigration or large scale and/or unassimilating legal immigration is voiced.


You hate your own people and your own culture, your own traditions and history and can't wait to be replaced by what you imagine to be vibrant, exotic strangers.




Says the same old boy who flew here to inform us all we're despicable Paki Bastards, Calabrian Dagos and Slovenian Tjurds.

Turns out he's into our culture, traditions and history, eh? Whoever would have guessed?

Now he's established that, he can move back onto demolishing our culture, history and traditions.

As you do, no?



Go back to Pakiland, wee Hamza Yusuf.
https://au.video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?fr=mcafee&p=hamza+yusuf+white&typ...


As you can see, the old boy's a devout libera... Sorry, a lib...

Oh, you know what I mean. You should hear him trying to get his mouth around conservative.



When did yiou metamorphosed into a wee Paki?

What IS the difference between your beliefs and Hamza Yusuf's?

Nothing. You are a wee Paki. He's a wee Paki.

Scotland today, innit.





Not at all, dear boy, I'm an Aussie. We grew here, you flew here.

We're Superior to you in every possible way. Culture, traditions, history.

You're so desperate to fit in, you joined a foreign cult, you poor old thing.

How does it feeeeel?




You are not an Aussie. You are a wee Hamza Yusuf.


So many insults, Frank... why are you so easily triggered?

The cognitive dissonance is eating you alive.

You start by fabricating nonsense about me "liking" aspects of illegal immigration, a cheap and lazy strawman, and then spiral into a tirade of adolescent bile: calling me a "sad teapot", telling Karnal to "go back to Pakiland, wee Hamza Yusuf," asking him when he "metamorphosed into a wee Paki", and capping it off by declaring he's "not an Aussie".

All because you can't stomach a well-documented fact, that undocumented immigrants in the US commit fewer crimes than native-born citizens?

You're presented with two choices: let facts inform your views and adjust accordingly, or melt down and spit vitriol at anyone who dares present inconvenient truths.

And you always, always, choose the latter.

I get it, it must be exhausting trying to stay loyal to Trump after everything he's done this term. Is that what this is? A crisis of faith? The creeping horror that maybe, just maybe, you were wrong?

Is that why you're lashing out?

Because deep down, behind all the bluster and cheap insults, there's a voice whispering that the people you spent years demonising might not be the threat you were told they were, that the crime stats don't lie, and your worldview might be built on sand?

What are you so afraid of, Frank?

That facts might finally catch up with you?
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Re: undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit
Reply #58 - Jul 11th, 2025 at 9:32am
 
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 11th, 2025 at 8:03am:
Frank wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 10:23pm:
Karnal wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 9:49pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 9:42pm:
Karnal wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 9:39pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 9:34pm:
Karnal wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 9:21pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 6:09pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 5:24pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 4:43pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jul 10th, 2025 at 4:18pm:
All this back and forth, yet it doesn't change the crime statistics, just triggered bigots looking for loopholes to justify their hate.

So, the usual.

What do you like about illegal immigration?


It triggers you and other idiots like you, that's got to be a plus.



I think you got it exactly back to front, as has Sad teapot and the rest of you do all the time - you mongs go completely dotty if any objection to illegal immigration or large scale and/or unassimilating legal immigration is voiced.


You hate your own people and your own culture, your own traditions and history and can't wait to be replaced by what you imagine to be vibrant, exotic strangers.




Says the same old boy who flew here to inform us all we're despicable Paki Bastards, Calabrian Dagos and Slovenian Tjurds.

Turns out he's into our culture, traditions and history, eh? Whoever would have guessed?

Now he's established that, he can move back onto demolishing our culture, history and traditions.

As you do, no?



Go back to Pakiland, wee Hamza Yusuf.
https://au.video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?fr=mcafee&p=hamza+yusuf+white&typ...


As you can see, the old boy's a devout libera... Sorry, a lib...

Oh, you know what I mean. You should hear him trying to get his mouth around conservative.



When did yiou metamorphosed into a wee Paki?

What IS the difference between your beliefs and Hamza Yusuf's?

Nothing. You are a wee Paki. He's a wee Paki.

Scotland today, innit.





Not at all, dear boy, I'm an Aussie. We grew here, you flew here.

We're Superior to you in every possible way. Culture, traditions, history.

You're so desperate to fit in, you joined a foreign cult, you poor old thing.

How does it feeeeel?




You are not an Aussie. You are a wee Hamza Yusuf.


So many insults, Frank... why are you so easily triggered?

The cognitive dissonance is eating you alive.

You start by fabricating nonsense about me "liking" aspects of illegal immigration, a cheap and lazy strawman, and then spiral into a tirade of adolescent bile: calling me a "sad teapot", telling Karnal to "go back to Pakiland, wee Hamza Yusuf," asking him when he "metamorphosed into a wee Paki", and capping it off by declaring he's "not an Aussie".

All because you can't stomach a well-documented fact, that undocumented immigrants in the US commit fewer crimes than native-born citizens?

You're presented with two choices: let facts inform your views and adjust accordingly, or melt down and spit vitriol at anyone who dares present inconvenient truths.

And you always, always, choose the latter.

I get it, it must be exhausting trying to stay loyal to Trump after everything he's done this term. Is that what this is? A crisis of faith? The creeping horror that maybe, just maybe, you were wrong?

Is that why you're lashing out?

Because deep down, behind all the bluster and cheap insults, there's a voice whispering that the people you spent years demonising might not be the threat you were told they were, that the crime stats don't lie, and your worldview might be built on sand?

What are you so afraid of, Frank?

That facts might finally catch up with you?


Nailed it here: "it must be exhausting trying to stay loyal to Trump after everything he's done this term. Is that what this is? A crisis of faith? The creeping horror that maybe, just maybe, you were wrong?"

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Re: undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit
Reply #59 - Jul 11th, 2025 at 11:09am
 
Trump was right” on border policy, former Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry told the BBC. “The problem is we [Democrats] should have been right.”

The former party heavyweight has little sway inside the Democratic Party whose leaders just released a plan that would flood America with a massive inflow of Indians seeking white collar and blue-collar jobs, housing, and political power.

Kerry’s admission comes as Trump faces renewed pressure from business groups to reopen jobs to economic migrants.

Democrats “need to be talking about what Americans do care about,” Kerry told his BBC interviewer (starting 32:35):

Immigration. I said this very directly to President Biden that I think the Democrats have missed on the issue of immigration for some years… They just allowed the border to continue to be sieged, under siege.

The first thing any president should say — any president, or anybody in public life, is, ‘Without a border protected you don’t have a nation.’ I believe that. To define your nation, you have to have a border that means something. And there’s a reason we have passports. There’s a reason we have visas. We have a system, and I wish President Biden had been heard more often saying, ‘Well I’m going to enforce the law.’

The scandalized BBC reporter interrupted Kerry to say he was giving Trump the political opportunity to claim his 2024 border policy was correct.

“Well, he was right,” Kerry rebuked the BBC reporter

The former party heavyweight has little sway inside the Democratic Party whose leaders just released a plan that would flood America with a massive inflow of Indians seeking white collar and blue-collar jobs, housing, and political power.

Kerry’s admission comes as Trump faces renewed pressure from business groups to reopen jobs to economic migrants.

Democrats “need to be talking about what Americans do care about,” Kerry told his BBC interviewer (starting 32:35):

Immigration. I said this very directly to President Biden that I think the Democrats have missed on the issue of immigration for some years… They just allowed the border to continue to be sieged, under siege.

The first thing any president should say — any president, or anybody in public life, is, ‘Without a border protected you don’t have a nation.’ I believe that. To define your nation, you have to have a border that means something. And there’s a reason we have passports. There’s a reason we have visas. We have a system, and I wish President Biden had been heard more often saying, ‘Well I’m going to enforce the law.’

The scandalized BBC reporter interrupted Kerry to say he was giving Trump the political opportunity to claim his 2024 border policy was correct.

“Well, he was right,” Kerry rebuked the BBC reporter.
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