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Re: Operator bans male workers from changing nappies
Reply #30 - Jul 6th, 2025 at 11:34pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 6th, 2025 at 8:39pm:
there is a war on women every day by men.
in australia every week 2 women are murdered by a man they live with. 
the vast majority by Aborigines and 'patriarchals'

Women take precautions when going out against a man raping them.
wise, but rape is the lowest occurring crime

america elected a convicted sexual assailant
civil finding - not a criminal one and not relevant to Australia


I am amazed how many women I know well have told me they have been sexually assaulted by a man. 
'sexually assaulted' can mean many things - and mostly not rape or actual molestation

I would think every woman has been sexually assaulted by a man
then there must be a few very bad men out there since most men do not do those things - ergo - warring on all men is pointless and antagonistic ...



Now that I've got your attention - let us return to the simple question of Violence and the 'war against violence' ..... what part of 'increasing violence towards one social group in an attempt to reduce violence overall is not only an oxymoron, but is also an accelerant for increasing violence'... do you find hard to follow?

And how do you justify the fact that around 42% of sexual assaults on children are by women?  A Californian lawyer lady wrote a book about exactly that - and the findings were appalling.  Sadly I didn't keep the book.

This is on abuse in isolation - without differentiating with regard to sexual abuse:-

https://www.statista.com/statistics/418470/number-of-perpetrators-in-child-abuse...

Now - this is not a contest between men and women - MY question is:-

What do WE DO to protect children from such things occurring in institutions such as daycare facilities and schools?  Especially when it is clear that children are at risk from both some men and some women there....

The guys mentioned here are arseholes - Gon'Mo for them and the Crocodile Long Bay - but let us not lose sight of reality in the midst of the usual storm of man hatred, with criminality by women being overlooked.

Children must be protected from EVERYONE working in those organisations.... and if that means cameras - so be it.  At least cameras would keep the creeps away from even applying.


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Re: Operator bans male workers from changing nappies
Reply #31 - Jul 7th, 2025 at 8:46am
 
Women do sexually abuse boys. Yes, it is less common, but it does happen.

I remember back in university we were told in a lot of cases, the behaviour is brushed off as "normal" due to the bias society has for women being carers.

Yes, it doesn't turn out to be violent rape like a male perpetrator. But the sexual molestation still happens.

Here is a video of one case:

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Reply #32 - Jul 7th, 2025 at 8:48am
 
Another case in the United States:

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Reply #33 - Jul 8th, 2025 at 12:05pm
 
MattE wrote on Jul 4th, 2025 at 5:24pm:
This is in response to the case against Joshua Brown, who is alleged to have sexually assaulted children in various childcare centres in Victoria.

Notwithstanding the alleged crimes (which are disgraceful and evil if proven), I support the decision by this childcare operator.

Some roles are for women, some roles are for men.

I can accept male teachers in primary and secondary school, but I really do not believe there is a place for them in babysitting institutions. They call it early learning, but in reality it is institutionalised babysitting to allow women to go to work.

If we are to have babysitters, then they should be women.

Changing nappies is definitely a woman's job.



Childcare operator bans male workers from changing nappies after alleged predator exposed


Male workers will be banned from changing nappies in 16 Victorian childcare centres following a snap decision by an operator on Friday, days after Joshua Brown was revealed as an alleged predator.


By Rebecca Borg and Susie O'Brien
4 July 2025

HERALD SUN



Male workers will not change nappies in 16 Victorian childcare centres following a snap decision by Inspire Early Learning Journey on Friday.

The Montessori childcare provider has become one of the first in Victoria to change its policies around what male educators can do in the classroom.

In a letter sent to parents on Friday afternoon, chief curriculum and quality officer Eleinna Anderson informed families male staff will not be assigned nappy change or toileting duties.

“At Inspire Early Learning Journey, the wellbeing and safety of your children are at the heart of everything we do,” the letter said.

“We’re writing to share a few important updates to our guidelines around staff interactions with children and team responsibilities – changes made with careful thought and a continued commitment to maintaining a safe, inclusive and respectful environment for all.

“To ensure we remain sensitive and responsive to family needs, we have made an adjustment: male educators will not be assigned to nappy change or toileting duties.”

FULL STORY: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/childcare-operator-bans-male-workers-from-changing-nappies-after-alleged-predator-exposed/news-story/da9b5e72d57f7116e1459ce2b0031e78


They should be shut down for wholesale discrimination against all men.
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Re: Operator bans male workers from changing nappies
Reply #34 - Jul 8th, 2025 at 12:06pm
 
MattE wrote on Jul 5th, 2025 at 10:09am:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jul 4th, 2025 at 7:38pm:
That’ll make the women happy.
What happens if a womman gets charged with molesting?


Women don't normally get charged for that stuff.


Really? I think you're actually clueless.
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Reply #35 - Jul 8th, 2025 at 12:09pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 6th, 2025 at 1:40am:
I can see why Mums and Dads may not want men to change their kids nappys.

We are not as trustworthy as women.


Again ..... speak for yourself you clown.
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Reply #36 - Jul 8th, 2025 at 12:33pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 6th, 2025 at 1:40am:
I can see why Mums and Dads may not want men to change their kids nappys.

We are not as trustworthy as women.






What on earth was Erin Patterson’s motive?  It’s obvious: domestic violence coercive control.

The fact this crime was committed by a woman, and involved poison, and not a gun or a knife, has confused what should be crystal clear – and should have been a motive clearly presented to the jury.

Patterson is just like every man who slaughters his children to punish his estranged wife, every DV monster who terrorises a woman who tries to get away.

Her patterns of behaviour – control, withholding of affection, isolating estranged husband Simon Patterson from his family, name-calling, disparagement, brainwashing the children – are signs of abuse we are used to diagnosing when men are the perpetrators.

But because she’s a woman, for some reason our society struggles to see it.
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Re: Operator bans male workers from changing nappies
Reply #37 - Jul 8th, 2025 at 12:37pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 6th, 2025 at 11:06am:
Aquarius wrote on Jul 6th, 2025 at 10:38am:
freediver wrote on Jul 6th, 2025 at 10:05am:
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Recent data show that one in 20 men in the Australian community are motivated offenders (individuals who reported both sexual interest in and offending against children).


Where is that from?


What?  You think I may have made it up?

Anyway it's from the University of NSW. 

https://www.unsw.edu.au/newsroom/news/2025/07/childcare-sexual-abuse-men-childre...


that is a damning statistic.

I cannot recall hearing of a female who raped a man or raped another woman.
It just does not happen


Yep clueless.  Roll Eyes

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Woman showed no emotion
The woman, who is in her forties, showed no reaction, and looked at the floor for the duration of the proceedings.

The court was told her husband, the girl's stepfather, had been sentenced to more than 20 years in prison after a 'fast track' plea in relation to crimes against the girl.

The mother's charges included possessing child exploitation material, producing child exploitation material, sexual penetration of a child under 13, sexual penetration of a child between 13 and 16, and persistent sexual conduct with a child under 16.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-07-02/perth-woman-guilty-sexually-abusing-daugh...

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Yesterday (6 June 2024), a search warrant was executed at the woman’s residence, where she was later charged with four counts of sexual intercourse with a young person under 16 years, and two historical family violence offences against the same victim, being choking another person, and possessing an offensive weapon with intent.

https://police.act.gov.au/news/2024-media-releases/june/woman-charged-with-child...
And another Canberra woman.
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A 29-year-old Holt woman has been charged with grooming and sexual assault offences following her arrest on Saturday.

In May (2025), police received information relating to the alleged inappropriate relationship between the woman and a 15-year-old boy who she worked with.

On Saturday (31 May 2025), police executed search warrants at the woman’s home and on her vehicle.

She was subsequently arrested and charged with groom a young person, possess child exploitation material, three counts of committing an act of indecency on a young person under 16 and two counts of sexual intercourse with a person aged between 10 and 16.

https://police.act.gov.au/news/2025-media-releases/june/woman-charged-with-groom...

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A 61-year-old Albany woman has been arrested and charged with the sexual abuse of a young boy she cared for in the 1990s.

WA Police released a statement alleging the woman committed the offences while she ran a family day care in the Albany suburb of Yakamia.

They say the abuse relates to a boy aged four and five years old at the time and the woman was in her 30s.

“At the time of the offences, the woman was aged in her 30s, and ran a family day care centre out of her home,” police said.

“It will be alleged she committed three sexually based offences against a male child who was aged
between 4 and 5 years
at the time.”

The abuse is alleged to have occurred between 1994 and 1995. Police have charged the woman with one count of indecent dealing of a child under 13 years, one count of sexual penetration of a child under 13 years and one count of procured or encouraged a child to engage in sexual behaviour.


https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/western-australia/woman-who-ran-albany...

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A woman from Sydney’s eastern suburbs will spend up to three years behind bars for sexually assaulting a 14-year-old boy.

The 46-year-old, who cannot be identified for legal reasons, was found guilty by a jury in October of two counts of aggravated sexual intercourse with a child under 16 on a night in 2021.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/sydney-woman-jailed-over-sexual-assault-of-1...

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A Bundaberg woman faced court on Friday on charges of distributing child exploitation material and indecent treatment of a child under 16, specifically a child under 12 years who is a lineal descendant, guardian, or caretaker.

The woman, who cannot be named for legal reasons, was also charged with six counts of making child exploitation material, two counts of possessing child exploitation material, and three counts of rape.

https://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/bundaberg/police-courts/bundaberg...

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A woman who appeared on a Channel 7 TV show is facing almost 80 rape and child abuse charges, court documents reveal.

Not enough room for url - in court 30 Nov 2023.
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Reply #38 - Jul 8th, 2025 at 12:39pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 6th, 2025 at 8:39pm:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jul 6th, 2025 at 11:24am:
freediver wrote on Jul 6th, 2025 at 10:05am:
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Recent data show that one in 20 men in the Australian community are motivated offenders (individuals who reported both sexual interest in and offending against children).


Where is that from?


Let us be very clear here - that is not "one in 20 men in the Australian community" at large ................. that wording should be cause for a lawsuit.... that figure is that "men make up 5% of childcare workers but are responsible for 60% of offences THERE" ... there's your one in twenty... 5% ... and that is of those who choose to go into that area of work, who (that 5%), for some reason, seem to be weirdoes., NOT ALL men - who, as usual are the Usual Targets for all this BS.

And all this time we've been told that DEI, including all kinds 'equally' but actually enforcing undesirables on us, has been the way to go.

How long is it going to take OUR politicians to ditch that ridiculous idea - along with their never-ending quotas and affirmative action (half-way houses) for women, those who struggle with English, Aborigines and the like, and the mentally bereft etc, who apparently are forever in need of another hand-up while the rest of us either take it on the chin and move to tent city or sit in the back of the bus?

The worst type you can be for a genuine shot at life and a fine job these days is a White, Heterosexual, Binary, Sane, Hard-working, Honest Man....  over twenty five years ago I came up with the acronym WACMAMOFF - White Anglo-Celtic Multi-Generational Australian Man Over Forty Five ..... a.k.a. The New Niqqers, those who sit at the back of the bus and don't get to use the drinking fountains and swimming pools of life, jobs and promotion marked for women, WOPs and Abos ...

Isn't it time for you all to catch up?  And wake up?  Stop The War On Men NOW!!



there is a war on women every day by men.
in australia every week 2 women are murdered by a man they live with.
Women take precautions when going out against a man raping them.
america elected a convicted sexual assailant

I am amazed how many women I know well have told me they have been sexually assaulted by a man.
[highlight]I would think every woman has been sexually assaulted by a man[/highlight]


Absolute over reactionary bullshyte.
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Reply #39 - Jul 8th, 2025 at 6:53pm
 
Crocodile Supermax... that's the go..

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Reply #40 - Jul 8th, 2025 at 7:36pm
 
Good idea....Changing nappies and looking after children is not something I would do....Looking after my own kids is enough....It is a shame for those blokes that want to care for children but will now be denied!!!

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Reply #41 - Jul 8th, 2025 at 7:48pm
 
A horrified father has admitted he had fears about his son's 'weird and creepy' childcare worker three years before the alleged monster was arrested for sickening crimes against children.

But the devastated dad told Daily Mail Australia he didn't raise the alarm for fear of being branded homophobic for speaking out against Joshua Dale Brown, 26.

The man's child was two years old when he was placed in Brown's care at Creative Garden Early Learning Centre Point Cook, in Melbourne's west, for a year in 2022.




Children and young people are sacrificed every day to this fear. Mustn't be judgemental of sexual perverts, creeps, predators.

So they thrive.

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Reply #42 - Jul 8th, 2025 at 10:42pm
 
Another example of a woman sexual predator. I totally forgot about her but it was big news.

Malka Leifer:



Guilty of 18 counts of sexual assault.

She was originally accused of over 70!

She is currently in the same prison as Erin Patterson.
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Reply #43 - Jul 9th, 2025 at 6:13am
 
This will only serve to bully men out of the profession ... a profession that is only clinging on by their teeth, if actual wages are anything to go by. Seems utterly noncompetitive as a career option. What were they expecting?

Meanwhile, money certainly is changing hands.

As for bullying men out ... if we allow it to happen here and now, we are giving the green light to it happening in aged and disability care. Both areas in which we need men. Furthermore, i cannot abide a system in which any person is precluded from employment in instances such as these because of their demographic. I say this as much in the defence of men as i do women; LGBT folk and all minorities. 

The oh so obvious answer is to value the positions these people fill more highly. People looking after our young, old and disabled shouldn't be among the lowest paid workers with the least entitlements in the country. It simply results in the jobs being undesirable and therefore noncompetitive.

Meanwhile, the obvious solution to potentially predatory staff is webcams in every nook and cranny that the parents have the constantly updating passcodes to. God only knows parents pay enough for it.
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Reply #44 - Jul 9th, 2025 at 7:33am
 
mothra wrote on Jul 9th, 2025 at 6:13am:
This will only serve to bully men out of the profession ... a profession that is only clinging on by their teeth, if actual wages are anything to go by. Seems utterly noncompetitive as a career option. What were they expecting?

Meanwhile, money certainly is changing hands.

As for bullying men out ... if we allow it to happen here and now, we are giving the green light to it happening in aged and disability care. Both areas in which we need men. Furthermore, i cannot abide a system in which any person is precluded from employment in instances such as these because of their demographic. I say this as much in the defence of men as i do women; LGBT folk and all minorities. 

The oh so obvious answer is to value the positions these people fill more highly. People looking after our young, old and disabled shouldn't be among the lowest paid workers with the least entitlements in the country. It simply results in the jobs being undesirable and therefore noncompetitive.

Meanwhile, the obvious solution to potentially predatory staff is webcams in every nook and cranny that the parents have the constantly updating passcodes to. God only knows parents pay enough for it.



Of course these positions should be valued more highly, they are educating & shaping young minds as well as attending to/nurturing the needs of children whose parents are forced to both be working to make ends meet.

It's a vey responsible job & they deserve good pay.

But I know what will happen the moment pay rises are mentioned .... owners will say it will put the centres under pressure & threaten closure.

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